+lindr2 Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Opps... surprise! MiG-23A what if... (1972 project, can be realized to 1976) based on MiG-23M - refuelling probe - new cockpit - hook - 2 unfolded undertail fins - Sapfir-23ML Radar
+Flanker562 Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Pretty much what was supposed I believe to be on the Project Oriol? (If I got the project correct).
+Gepard Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 If you want merge your model with the FM of my MiG-23MK http://combatace.com/files/file/5532-mig-23mk-carrierborne-flogger/
+lindr2 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Posted November 24, 2010 If you want merge your model with the FM of my MiG-23MK Thanks, but MiG-23K is ANOTHER project...
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted November 24, 2010 Posted November 24, 2010 Lindr2, damn nice job and a cool project! Are there more drawings!? @Gepard, cooler Skin!
+lindr2 Posted November 30, 2010 Author Posted November 30, 2010 Fight tests: Take OFF! Landing p.s:sorry, i don't have more mig-23k drawings...
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 Lindr2, realy welcomed project! Good work on this, will you create a twoseater? Or even the vertical takeoff MiG-23 prototype with deltawings?! I`m just asking I like prototypes!
+lindr2 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) MiG-23K Edited December 6, 2010 by lindr2
Silverbolt Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) MiG-23K That's Sexy! how it woul be launched from the carrier ? Edited December 6, 2010 by Silverbolt
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 Looks fantastic, can it have also the "heavy" looking back of the MF or PFM Mig-21, I htink there is additional fuel stored, so it can use the middle weaponstation for something else than a fueltank ;) Will you create the back windows too? for a rearward view?! look behind the canopy, there are additional windows!
+Gepard Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 MiG-21F Pilots told me, that the small windows at the rear werent really usefull. Thatswhy the czech had deleted them on their MiG-21F13. I think Lindr2s version is more realistic. As suggestion, perhaps it would be possible to add the dogtooth at the wingroots, as it was used in MiG-27M or MiG-23MLD. Should make the bird more agile and slower at carrier approach.
+lindr2 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) Looks fantastic, can it have also the "heavy" looking back of the MF or PFM Mig-21, I htink there is additional fuel stored, so it can use the middle weaponstation for something else than a fueltank ;) Will you create the back windows too? for a rearward view?! look behind the canopy, there are additional windows! Know You or not, but into MiG-23K project (1976-78) used some features from MiG 9-11 include cockpit design, but 9-12 do not have back windows. Whether back windows for an MiG-23K are necessary?. I'm not assured yet about it .... 9-11 prototype (1973 project) about refueling probe: that MiG-23K version also exist Edited December 6, 2010 by lindr2
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted December 7, 2010 Posted December 7, 2010 Mh interresting aspect, thanks forthe info lindr2, the idea was to have a variety in the versions, with or with out the window, or without the refuelprobe .. just some ideas ;) Good work so far, thanks!
+Gepard Posted December 7, 2010 Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) For the MiG-29 project 3 different design concepts were tested. The first was a twin engine MiG-23 look a like with no swing wings and F-15 style air intakes ( the first in the row of lindrs drawings) Then was a design which reminds on the later Yak-41 (second in row) And finally the lifting body concept, which later became the MiG-29. project 9-11 was a MiG-29 body with MiG-23 avionics for export. Was cancelled because it was impossible to fit the MiG-23 radar in the MiG-29 body. 9-12 was full development. 9-12A was export WP, 9-12B was export rest of the world. Edited December 7, 2010 by Gepard
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