+Dave 2,322 Posted June 28, 2011 The war to end all wars began with an assassination......10,000,000 dead soilders later it ended in 1918..... we haven't learn much from that have we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted June 28, 2011 To quote fallout War never Changes maybe it should be Man Never changes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,252 Posted June 28, 2011 in ways mankind has learned from the two world wars. in those almost every available weapon hass been used and without any consideration for non combatants. the ultimate weapon has only been used twice, both in Aug 45. since then the thought of crossing the threshold and commiting suicide as a species has limited the vast scope of warfare. however mankind still has an innate aggressiveness that at national levels will lead to some form of conflict. in this day of instant media however the conduct of the warriors is held to closer scrutiny. as aggravating as that is for our soldiers in the current conflicts, it leads to restraint by the forces with greater destructive capacity. in its long convoluted way that is what can be learned from the Great War and WWII. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capitaine Vengeur 263 Posted June 28, 2011 " - World War One: one hundred military killed to one civilian. - World War Two: one military killed to one civilian. - Vietnam War: one military killed to ten civilians. You know how to survive the next war: ENLIST !!!" (Pierre Desproges) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexx_Luthor 57 Posted June 29, 2011 Capitaine V, I'm saving that quote. Thanks! The war to end all wars Like borrowing more to get out of debt. I'd love to see Mark Twain's reaction to that war spin, if he had lived to see it. The smart man would see the Orwellian speak signaling the start of a long era of warfare. Apparently, there was a US Navy officer present at the armistice signing, and he said, or wrote, that he could tell that there will be another war in 20 years from then. If the story is true, he was off by one year. I don't have a source for that story though. This is another reason I think the whole thing was a setup...its a short and light PDF file. MONETARY REFORM: GOLD AND BILLS OF EXCHANGE by Antal Fekete : : 1909 was a milestone in the history of money. That year, in preparation for the coming war, the note issue of the Bank of France and of the Reichsbank of Germany were made legal tender. Most people did not even notice the subtle change. Gold coins and bank notes kept circulating as before. It was not the disappearance of gold coins from circulation that heralded the coming destruction of the world’s monetary and payments system. It was the advent of legal tender. It was the French and German government’s decision to stop paying civil servants in gold coin who were now forced to accept paper money. Private firms immediately followed suit: they also started paying their employees with bank notes.... ....In addition to bank notes originating in bills of exchange, bank notes originating in finance bills (including treasury bills) have made their appearance for the first time. In due course the cuckoo chick would hatch and push the native chick out of the nest. In five years, by 1914, the lion’s share of bank portfolios would be replaced by finance bills. The real bill has become an endangered species. In another few years it became extinct. Note that, unlike real bills, finance and treasury bills are not self-liquidating. The change-over from bank notes backed by real bills to bank notes backed by finance bills was the last nail in the coffin of the clearing system of the international gold standard. ~ http://www.professorfekete.com/articles/AEFMonetaryReformGoldAndBillsOfExchange.pdf You can finance wars like this only through massive debt, and somebody willing to "loan" paper to the warring sides, the paper being declared legal tender by cowardly "war" governments. Smedley Butler hints at this slightly, and he reserves special comments for banks in his late~in~life speeches on War Is A Racket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capitaine Vengeur 263 Posted June 29, 2011 Apparently, there was a US Navy officer present at the armistice signing, and he said, or wrote, that he could tell that there will be another war in 20 years from then. If the story is true, he was off by one year. I don't have a source for that story though. I don't know of a present official American representative at Rethondes. I have names for 7 French (all Army), 4 British (all Navy), and 6 Germans (some civilians), including interpreters and aides-de-camp. But Marshall Foch himself, who was present, said a bit later in 1920 after the Versailles Treaty: "This is not Peace, this is a 20-year-long armistice." (quoted in Hearts of Iron 3). How right he was! as the French defeat in 1940 was ratified in the same carriage, following Hitler's will... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexx_Luthor 57 Posted June 29, 2011 You may be right. So many stories get changed over the years, or there were many smart men back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites