warthog64 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I've recently been playing the campaigns from the SF2I expansion pack. However I've noticed that in the Attrition War campaign that most Arab aircraft types that are suppose to update to a different type throughout the campaign are not doing so. If I fly the Arab version of the campaign I do not see this problem, so it obviously only effects non-player aircraft. Has anyone else had this issue? Quote
Do335 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Tis normal.. Quote You might not always get the upgrade, supply and other constraints limit what and when they're availale, and combat status may prevent unit from upgrading immediately (there has to be a lull in combat for unit to upgrade) so the date you specify is the earliest the plane will be available. http://bbs.thirdwire.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=23624#p23624 From own experience the "lull in combat" was rather important. Edited December 20, 2017 by Do335 Quote
RustyKurnass Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I've also learned here from the forum,that the game's engine can't upgrade at the same time aircraft tipes and texture. If you have a MiG-17F with EAFCamo1 that will upgrades to MiG-21PF with EAFCamo2 for ex, the plane don't upgrade.If you simply cnange the texture to EAFCamo1 the upgrades work,thrust me,this happened to me with the IAF bird. After upgrades,you simply change the camo of the planes from the Loadout menu. Quote
m275500 Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 On 20/12/2017 at 10:48 AM, RustyKurnass said: After upgrades,you simply change the camo of the planes from the Loadout menu That's for us, but what about the al. Sure no one wants a t62 with a green skin in Afghanistan lol or an indian mig 21 with polish camo. It doesn't seems like there is a way to control their skins? If there I would appreciate it if u tell me lol Quote
RustyKurnass Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 Maybe you can try to updates first only the planes with the old same skin name and add another line to upgrade the skin One example from the Campaign.ini of the Golan Stalemate IDF side: [AirUnit018] AircraftType=Nesher Squadron=144IDF ForceID=1 Nation=ISRAEL DefaultTexture=IDFCamo2 UpgradeType=FIXED Upgrade[01].Date=02/01/1978 Upgrade[01].Type=KfirC2 <--------------------------- First upgrade only the plane... Upgrade[01].Texture=IDFCamo2 Upgrade[02].Date=02/04/1978 Upgrade[02].Type=KfirC2 Upgrade[02].Texture=IDFGREY1 <-------------------------------------- ...then the skin Quote
+Wrench Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 also, let's not the aircraft/vehicle userlist inis, and more importantly, each terrains "LimitedNations" statement and list. that should prevent (the operative words, of course) anything that don't belong from appearing where it ain't supposed to. Terrain's also have a "GroundObjectTexture=" statement that (again,the operative word) should prevent desert camo fro showing up in Germany and vice versa. Quote
+dtmdragon Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 14 hours ago, RustyKurnass said: Maybe you can try to updates first only the planes with the old same skin name and add another line to upgrade the skin One example from the Campaign.ini of the Golan Stalemate IDF side: [AirUnit018] AircraftType=Nesher Squadron=144IDF ForceID=1 Nation=ISRAEL DefaultTexture=IDFCamo2 UpgradeType=FIXED Upgrade[01].Date=02/01/1978 Upgrade[01].Type=KfirC2 <--------------------------- First upgrade only the plane... Upgrade[01].Texture=IDFCamo2 Upgrade[02].Date=02/04/1978 Upgrade[02].Type=KfirC2 Upgrade[02].Texture=IDFGREY1 <-------------------------------------- ...then the skin This will work to get around the problem. Provided that the amount of time between your aircraft upgrade and then skin change is longer than the maximum possible time between missions. Even by just one day. Quote
m275500 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 Thanks for the help. This problem was really a pain in the u know what lol Quote
m275500 Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Doesn't seem to be working for me for some reason This is one of the entries [AirUnit018] AircraftType=Canberra6 Squadron=016IAF ForceID=2 Nation=India DefaultTexture=RAFCAMO1 BaseArea=Jalalabad Airbase BaseMoveChance=0 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=20 StartAircraft=20 MaxPilots=20 StartPilots=20 Experience=100 Intelligence=20 Morale=100 Supply=100 MissionChance[SWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[INTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=90 MissionChance[CAS]=75 MissionChance[SEAD]=30 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=35 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=80 MissionChance[RECON]=75 UpgradeType=Fixed Upgrade[01].Date=6/5/1980 Upgrade[01].Type=MiG-25RU Upgrade[01].Texture=RAFCAMO1 Upgrade[02].Date=6/6/1981 Upgrade[02].Type=MiG-25RU Upgrade[02].Texture=IAFSilver1 My normal mission's rate is 360 so the difference between skin and aircraft upgrade is one day higher than it and i have some which are months or weeks higher and they didn't work too... Offensive mission rate is 90 What seems to be wrong here and ground units refuse to upgrade aswell see GroundUnit001] GroundObjectType=T-55 UnitName=1st Tank division ForceID=1 Nation=Afghanistan BaseArea=Taliban Warlord Capital south of Lashkar Gar RandomChance=100 StartObjects=100 MaxObjects=100 Experience=80 Morale=100 Supply=100 Intelligence=70 UpgradeType=Fixed Upgrade[01].Date=10/5/1973 Upgrade[01].Type=T-62A Upgrade[01].Texture=Tan That's for ground units. And I checked their folders and they are alright. So, I don't know the cause of this problem for now or should I follow the same path with em as the aircraft like upgrading the tank first then the skin.. Thanks in advance.. Sorry for the paragraph look, I don't really know what is the cause for this.. Edited March 14, 2021 by m275500 Quote
+Wrench Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 something with the board's software, on certain formated items. i've had it happen to me too. Quote
m275500 Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Mmm... I hope that my entries are clear. However, do u know what's is wrong with em? Tried to make them higher than normal mission rate and in other experiments lower than em. Moreover, both didn't work for me. So, I am quite confused about it. Quote
+Wrench Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 campaign stuff i don't know about ... the last campaign I played was in 2005 in the original Desert map (cheated with nukes as soon as the 1st weapons pack came out) I was talking about the "paragraph look" you mentioned above Quote
m275500 Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 Lol nevermind got to fix it with the help of rusty kurnass. I am gonna post a toturial about it after some trial and error experiments. 1 Quote
+dtmdragon Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 I'm interested in what the problem was for. Years ago I had the same problem but how I fixed it other than my previous suggestion to you I can't remember. Quote
m275500 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Some annoying start and end dates for aircrafts,skins, and sometimes nations' usage of these aircrafts. These are the type of issues which are easy to forget, and it took long checking these entries for every single unit. I have used google to know these aircrafts' service dates and they did contradict with the aircraft's users and data dates. Just a small problem from thier modders. still, I appreciate their work tho. And that's not a big mistake, it's just a small tweaks in the aircraft users files and it's all done. Edited March 25, 2021 by m275500 Quote
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