How to Make the Harpoon Block 1 (AGM-84A) or Block 1B (AGM-84C) Available?

[Arrow 83]

Or more specifically, how to make them available to the CF-188B Hornet, which according to some sources I've read were in the RCAF weapon' inventory.

I've loaded the ObjectData027.CAT up in Mue's CAT Extractor and can see a AGM-84.INI, AGM-84.LOD and AGM-84_1.JPG, but I'm wondering if that weapon content is only for the ship borne Harpoons? I know modders created an AGM-84E (not sure what block?) and an AGM-84F (Block 1D), as I have both in my Weapons folder which came via the A-6 Superpak and CF-188B archives. The problem though, is I need a Harpoon that I load up from 1983-84 service date and that's apparently only the AGM-84A (Block 1) which entered service in 1979.

So, if in fact an AGM-84A capable of being launched from an aircraft is in the base game, what do I need to make it available? Currently no harpoons show up the list of available weapons in my CF-188's loadout screen, but that's no doubt due to me only being able to select an 1983 or 84 sevice date - years before the AGM-84E & F were debuted. Unfortunately I know nothing about editing LOD files -other than the 1 time I removed a component from the A-6A cockpit LOD- but I'm wondering if it's possible to mod an AGM-84E into an AGM-84A?

Edited July 20, 2019 by Arrow

[+yakarov79 11,089]

are you using sf2 weaponeditor?

[Arrow 83]

13 minutes ago, yakarov79 said:

are you using sf2 weaponeditor?

The only SF2 tools I have are Mue's CATExtractor, LODViewer and TargetAreaEditor and TW's StrikeFighters2 Extractor.  I'm not using any weponeditor, I'm just opening up INI files dreaming that I'll find something obvious I can change and make the Harpoons suddenly available.    In other words I'm an ignorant fool wearing an electrician's tool belt,  groping around in the dark hoping to grasp hold of the holy grail - lol.  

If I can suddenly make the Harpoon AGM-84A's available by slotting a weapons editor onto my tool belt - hey, I want to know all about it.  

Edited July 20, 2019 by Arrow

[KJakker 901]

Have you checked the aircraft's loadout.ini file?

[Arrow 83]

2 minutes ago, KJakker said:

Have you checked the aircraft's loadout.ini file?

Yes, but to the best of my knowledge all Loadout.INI does is specify attachment/pylons specific to the aircraft and spec default loadouts based upon mission type. I haven't found any INI that says - here, these are all the weapons your particular aircraft can use.

[Edit] I'm aware some weapons Data INI's  state a particular nation like USN or USAF, but that isn't the problem in my case - I just don't have access to the weapon(s.)

Edited July 20, 2019 by Arrow

[KJakker 901]

Would please you attach the data and loadout INI files for the aircraft in question so I can take a look at them?

[MigBuster 2,884]

Step 23 on here has info on what is required in the data ini

 

 

[Arrow 83]

12 minutes ago, KJakker said:

Would please you attach the data and loadout INI files for the aircraft in question so I can take a look at them?

Most certainly - here be the files. BTW I really appreciate yours and all others replies and feedback.  I did briefly review what MigBuster posted and I'm not at all sure about whether the attachments can support the Harpoons. But...but, we're talking about the F/A-18 Hornet here, I mean wasn't it the early 80's swiss army knife of all carrier-capable aircraft that could carry a bus if it wanted to?  

[Edit] BTW, because I'm flying in the service years of 1983 & 84, 90% of what listed for mission load-outs in the LOADOUT.INI aren't available to my aircraft. I do eventually plan on editing that with more appropriate late 70's - early 80's weapons, but I'm still doing me some learning as to what's exactly appropriate.

CF-188B_DATA.ini

CF-188B_LOADOUT.INI

Edited July 20, 2019 by Arrow

[KJakker 901]

In that data file none of the weapon stations have ASM listed under AllowedWeaponClass=. Try this minor data file edit and see if you can load Harpoons now.

CF-188B_DATA.ini

[+yakarov79 11,089]

Generally, it is not important what aircraft when and where, by -  .ini files you can attach anything underwings, anytime anywhere - not realistic but you can ...even another aircraft can be there.

[+guuruu 5,909]

AGM-84A is CGR (or maybe I've it wrong ;-) ) with mass 530 kg, date 1976-1994

AGM-84C is ASM, 519 kg, date 1982-1993 ... both USN

max diam=0.34 , max lenght=3.9

So weapon station to use these missiles must have :

[RightOuterWingStation]
LoadLimit=530 <- or more
LengthLimit=3.9 <- and more
AllowedWeaponClass=CGR, ASM
AttachmentType=USN

And ofc mission date must be in dates limits.
 

[Arrow 83]

1 minute ago, yakarov79 said:

Generally, it is not important what aircraft when and where, by -  .ini files you can attach anything underwings, anytime anywhere - not realistic but you can ...even another aircraft can be there.

Another aircraft - oh wow! I so want to sling a CF-104 under my RCAF Hornet's wing and drop it on the deck of a Russian frigate. Cause yah know, those rockets starfighters weren't too good for flying. 

[Arrow 83]

12 minutes ago, KJakker said:

In that data file none of the weapon stations have ASM listed under AllowedWeaponClass=. Try this minor data file edit and see if you can load Harpoons now.

Many thanks for finding that and making the edit. 

[Arrow 83]

3 hours ago, KJakker said:

In that data file none of the weapon stations have ASM listed under AllowedWeaponClass=. Try this minor data file edit and see if you can load Harpoons now.

That did the trick - after copying in the edited data INI I immediately had the AGM-84A and AGM-84C available to my flights. And wow what a difference having those weapons has made!

[Wrench 9,848]

Curious that no one asked the obvious question:

Are you using any of the available weapons packs???

[Arrow 83]

Yes, I'm have Weapons Pack 2 installed, as well as weapons included with various aircraft such as the Intruder Superpack and the CF-188B which I'm assuming has the same weapons as the Hornet Team pack.

Edited July 21, 2019 by Arrow

[+yakarov79 11,089]

7 hours ago, Arrow said:

That did the trick - after copying in the edited data INI I immediately had the AGM-84A and AGM-84C available to my flights. And wow what a difference having those weapons has made!

Trick this is not.

As explained many times in KB simple weapon/aircraft editing.