CopperminE 0 Posted February 5 What variants of the AIM-9 Sidewinder were in service with US-friendly countries in the Middle East (Iran, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc.) in 1972, 1975? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,879 Posted February 5 Start Here: http://missile.index.ne.jp/cgi/misearch.cgi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopperminE 0 Posted February 6 22 hours ago, Wrench said: Start Here: http://missile.index.ne.jp/cgi/misearch.cgi Unfortunately, the information there is too general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,281 Posted February 7 unfortunatley thats true best i can say is to get comfortable here https://www.google.com/ image hunts, site searches, contacts with museums in those countries if youre comfortable (and theyre cooperative) and check your list. Iran would be correct, but i think Saudi was leaning more to Britain in the early 70s, and UAE having moe a mix of British and French gear until the 1980s. but do your own homework, i only spent 5 mins on my search of the two countries and, being not my cup of tea it, wasnt a deep search at that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopperminE 0 Posted February 8 Apparently no one understood me. I have a habit of googling first and then asking real people. I just couldn't find the information I was looking for. The Saudis received sidewinders along with the F-5E in 1974. The question is, what kind of Sidewinders? B, E, J, N? Or may be even NAVY variants D, G, H? I was just hoping someone on this forum knew this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,281 Posted February 8 (edited) i relatively understood you you've just picked one of those topics that needs alot of research, and you might be teh main one with interest in it (not Sidewinders, but i've been there all the same) for google searching, break it into chunks and search each piece. Saudi missiles in 1974. Jordanian missles 1974 etc here is an article i found just wondering if the N was even in service in your timeframe https://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Sidewinder-94.html a takeaway i get is that most in the Middle East was probably using Bs at that timeframe. nobody there except Iran got the very best stuff upfront in the early 70s, and Iran only got it because the Soviets were next door to them and they paid cash, not recieving Military Aid Progrram goodies but that is my impression, it is not stated in the article Edited February 8 by daddyairplanes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Erik 1,814 Posted March 27 The DTIC has some released information here: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA398882 and the associated research report is here: ADA398882.pdf Just a start but like @daddyairplanes said you'll have to break the query down into smaller pieces to get anywhere. The likelihood of finding all middle east countries in one research paper or KB is very slim. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted May 5 On 5.2.2024 at 1:03 AM, CopperminE said: What variants of the AIM-9 Sidewinder were in service with US-friendly countries in the Middle East (Iran, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc.) in 1972, 1975? AIM-9B was still the "export standard" item back then. AIM-9E and AIM-9J (the original variant, often offered as rebuild/upgrade of B and E) for few customers. E.g. Iran got E and J, Saudi Arabia as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted May 5 Good place for research: https://www.sipri.org/databases/armstransfers The data is not 100% accurate but gives a very good overview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopperminE 0 Posted May 9 On 27.03.2024 at 10:22 PM, Erik said: The DTIC has some released information here: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA398882 and the associated research report is here: ADA398882.pdf Just a start but like @daddyairplanes said you'll have to break the query down into smaller pieces to get anywhere. The likelihood of finding all middle east countries in one research paper or KB is very slim. On 05.05.2024 at 5:33 PM, Crusader said: AIM-9B was still the "export standard" item back then. AIM-9E and AIM-9J (the original variant, often offered as rebuild/upgrade of B and E) for few customers. E.g. Iran got E and J, Saudi Arabia as well. On 05.05.2024 at 5:37 PM, Crusader said: Good place for research: https://www.sipri.org/databases/armstransfers The data is not 100% accurate but gives a very good overview. Thanks a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites