Erik

There was another BS post on here about the same incident from a different perspective. It looks like a rotor craft then and it still looks like one. The mass hysteria thing that's going on like a pack of dodo birds is getting out of hand. People see things with their own eyes and convince themselves it's something entirely different. Nothing is immune from the Branch Dividian belief system. It's a helo with FAA approved avoidance lights. Next.

I think Santa swapped out the standard 72.5 inch diameter prop with a toy version. He's probably flying on magic Christmas Dust anyway, what was I thinking anyway.

Only thing I would say is the case ground is missing which grounds all the components back to through A/C adapter lead. Just be careful not to give it a static electric shock. For test purposes though it's keen and I'm sure the wife won't miss the cutting board especially if she's like my wife. My wife can burn instant oatmeal, cutting boards are foreign objects to her. Bless her heart.

Sure. Great. Thanks.

This is just a re-statement of everything that's been said. In fact I can't find anywhere that someone said the Laioning was acquired from Russia. We just discussed this in another post entirely and my statement above said the design for the engines and turbines was from the Soviet Union since the Soviet Union designed the vessel and commissioned Ukraine to build it. Just because Ukraine built it doesn't mean it wasn't supposed to be under the Soviet Union's control and it was until 10 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union when the Ukrainian ship yard was forced to sell her as scrap. The conditions of that sale were governed by the now newly formed Russia. The same type of purchase happened in Australia where they sold the HMAS Melbourne as scrap to the Chinese but it was instead dissected for the usable components that were still on board.

Shandong is Laioning's almost twin sister. Granted she can carry 8 more aircraft with a bigger displacement and more fuel on board. Her deck is 10% bigger and the super structure is noticeably smaller. Her radar systems are said to be of notable improvement giving her more situational awareness. The true test of the Laioning will be under pressure in high movements of launch and recovery. The Laioning's biggest draw back is her inability to carry latest generation fighters.

The Shandong is powered by oil fired boilers spinning eight steam turbines all copied from the Liaoning which are Soviet designs. Dispite Russia's insistence that the engines were removed it's apparent then and now they were not, no surprise. Her launch and recovery systems, acquired from the HMAS Melbourne, will put significant stresses on the Shandong's fixed wing aircraft. Let's hope they beefed up those acquired aircraft designs. I congratulate the PLAN/CNS for graduating to first commission first class problems but her launch now in their economy is a huge strain. Strong money says they should be dialing back their carrier program to a more maintainable expense but I doubt they will. I instead venture they'll raise taxes on the already over taxed population of China. All that aside the Shandong's 70,000 tonne displacement along with her carrier group will be able to make her presence known in any part of the World they wish to project into. After all the USN does like to have targets should our relations devolve that far.

https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner-oft-fails-to-reach-correct-orbit.html

Meanwhile back at the ranch. https://www.businessinsider.com/navys-next-aircraft-john-f-kennedy-carrier-just-launched-2019-12

There's something in the water in LV and this guy is a wack job. I've seen nav lights all my life and those are nav lights from a rotor wing aircraft. You only have to ask yourself one question, why would an alien craft have high visibility FLASHING navigation lights in our green, white, red configuration? Maybe they just want to blend in with the other aircraft in our skies? What a fekkin idiot. Look at that there's a ball on top of his body and I don't think anything is hanging on to it! Holy whiskers batman we've been fished like a cat.

Hans Zimmer worked on the music score, a man that can suck every emotion out of a scene with every note. The movie might be 'ehhh but go for the music being put to screen, it's sure to be a hit.

Problem is with all that money and western support only a dozen or so people benefit while the rest of Turkey lives in horrible conditions both physically and brought on by the state's need to glass dome its borders. [Thunberg ON] It's sickening when you understand how many countries are forced to live in conditions similar to Turkey. We all yearn to be free, no nation thinks differently. [Thunberg OFF]

The Chinese bought HMAS Melbourne back in '85 for $1.4M under the guise of scrapping her and then instead studied her to advance their naval program. The Aussies removed all the electronics and weapons but unfortunately left the arresting gear, catapult and part of the landing system. Chin up sparky you gave it your best bloody shot mate, can't always be winners now can we? Sometimes the only vision with absolute clarity is hindsight.

Yep yep ... bunch of blustering from the Turks. They tried to play both ends against the middle and they lost now they want to take their toys and go home. Childish. Even worse is our administration allowing this to happen and not having any more forethought than, "what can I do for me today?" I'm disgusted by politicians everywhere. The only people who suffer are the citizens.

Bless you.

Jinx

The Russian Kuznetsov was built by an Ukrainian ship builder and they built two hulls for the Soviet Union. The Kuznetsov flag ship and its sister ship the Varyag. During the build of the Varyag the Soviet Union collapses and the Varyag remained in the Ukraine for a decade before being purchased by a prominent business man Xu Zengping. The Ukrainian ship builder was prohibited by the Russian government from selling the hull for military use but along comes Xu Zengping who told the Ukrainian ship builder he wanted it as a floating casino. Xu went so far as to obtain a gambling license and shell company out of Macau. That license subsequently was revoked the day the Varyag was delivered to China. There's some controversy over the engine technology being installed on the ship and Xu claimed the ship came with the engines intact and all the blueprints, Russia for obvious reasons denies this. The result left Russia now extremely unhappy with the Ukrainian ship builder, a wealthy Ukrainian company, and China who just purchased their first aircraft carrier through a shell man. You can imagine how high the emotions were running during that time and it's no wonder why Russia is now at war with Ukraine and annexed Crimea. The newly formed Russia was in no position to do anything about the sale militarily especially so soon after the Soviet Union collapse but one thing was clear, China now had it's first aircraft carrier which saved them an estimated 15 years in research and development. The Soviet Union contracted, Ukrainian built, aircraft carrier hull Varyag sat mid production for a decade. Sold, it immediately entered the Chinese Navy and was commissioned the Liaoning. The scandal is still a fresh wound to Russia but with the Kuznetsov's service history the egg might be on China's face for purchasing such a floating turd. The one thing that is clear is that the Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier is generations behind in development compared to the new Ford class carrier being floated by the US. The threads that weave bind us all.

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What an albatross. They've been trying to sink her for decades and she refuses to take the deep sea nap. Not sure if that's good luck or bad.

This is exactly why C7H5N3O6 was invented, because somebody somewhere had to listen to a similar version of fighting hairdressers. From CA's prospective it's annoying but I luckily get the last word and final decision, perks of the job. -CLOSED AS NON-SUPPORT RELATED-

Thank you.

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waffling doesn't quite capture the essence but it's close enough

He's still around and I believe the best way to contact him is by email at admin@whenthunderrolled.com.