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A simple "Why did you change the folder name?'' type of reply would have been more appropriate not your flabbergasted amazement. I changed the name because SF2 would not use the terrain when I left the name as Desert4 (this was implied in my initial statement but probably I should have been more specific). SF2 will only use Piecemeal's terrain when the folder's named is changed to DESERT - but then it will not use the Moutain Region addon. I have deleted and reinstalled but not success. My install of SF2 was just recently downloaded from TW site so is up-to-date. The only edits have been to huddata & viewlist ini's (no addons or other mods at all). So any help would still be appreciated Piecemeal. Does anybody else playing SF2, without SF:AN installed, use this terrain (with or without the Mountain addon)?

I have SF2 July 2013 clean install. I installed Piecemeal's Desert 4 terrain as per the readme. However I had to change the name of the terrain folder to Desert (delete V4 from the name) to get it to be used by the game. Could this be due to not have SF:NA installed as recommended. My main problem is that I tried to install the Desert 4 Mountain Regions + addons, by Centurion1 BUT I cannot get the game to use it. I have tried some basic editing of options ini - including with the terrain folder being named Desert & Desert4. I would prefer not having SF:NA installed - already have 3 titles and play SF2 90% of the time. Any help would be great.

OR deleting nations. I delete all nations and enter in only 2 - Dhimar & Paran (Desert scenario nations). Then all my aircraft are either nation.

Logitech Extreme 3D PRO also. It has a comfortable and solid feel. I 've been using this same stick for over 5years. It has trigger, bomb release, 8-way hat plus 4 other buttons on top of stick. I use the mouse in my left hand for head movement and throttle control, so most common operations I don't need to look at the keyboard.

The edit for DetectSystem fixed the problem. Thanks Frank and all for help. Mark Schell is now my German pilots name and he is anything but default NORMAL!

Thanks Frank. I don't have expansion so no editor. Yes, the AIData is there and is not doubled. I will try your edit for Detectsystem soon and post outcome. Just the sound of the words "Achtung" and "Mark Schnell" sound quite aggresive to me.

FrankD, not sure what is Skill Level because I have left Ai components out. I would not think Skill level would matter. Would "poor" affect aggression this much? Some of the other addon a/c I have do not have the AI components and are very aggressive: F16 Su35 Mig31 F14A Gripen

Yes, added the AI components - copied from an F4 but it didn't improve. Perhaps I'll try another a/c. I'll also check over the detect system. Thanks dast but the gun works ok when I'm piloting. The AA-8 is ok and suitable for me because: In my SF world, I only allow IR missiles to be carried - makes for close quarters combat! The a/c seem to all converge into a smaller area which makes things really hairy . . . more near misses!

I would laugh with you but, first, why is this wrong forum?

I have installed the MF MiG 29G which was recently converted to SF2 standard by dast24. However, they rarely fire missiles at enemy. I don't have a weapons pack installed so I edited the loadout to 6 X AA-8. The MiGs have the missiles but in a flight of 8 a/c only about 3 missiles total will be fired. They do chase enemy but rarely fire missiles. AND I just realised I have never seen them fire guns. It doesn't matter if I am in command of the flight or if they are all AI controlled. I also have the MF MiG 29A which I converted to SF2 myself and it is the same - no aggression. I fly SF2(June2010) with little modding - updated Desert terrain, cloud mod, addon a/c. No weapons pack because it creates armament lists, in the loadout screen, that are tooooo long.

You get some modern a/c with SF2 Europe. And if you get SF2E you can also get the Expansion pack which will give you ability to edit the random missions before take-off. There is a F16 Blk 10 in A/c downloads. I have it and it is my main flyer. Also F14, F18 & F15. And others. I have only SF2 and have deleted all jets and added modern a/c from this site. Quite easy to do. I just don't fly campaigns because specific a/c must be entered in campaign files. Also be aware that some a/c downloads do require files that are in specific SF2 titles. So read through the description and requirements.

Glad you found the manual. The knowledge base is mainly for modding or troubleshooting. At thirdwire.com there is a good, and short, tutorial on using the early radar system for guided missiles (Tutorial uses radar pics from SF2 F4 Phantom). It is posted in the General section of the 3rd Wire forum. BUT the site is down for maintenance at time of this post.

I have the same problem with Loading Screens. I have taken screen shots (to use as loading screen for specific aircraft)and the game saves them in jpg format. When I edit the aircraft ini to use as loading screen (AND type in jpg), I just get a black screen. (Screen shot is put into specific aircraft folder) If I use windows paint to save the jpg as bmp and do necessary edit, then all is ok.

When did you learn to play the trumpet Wrench (just teasing )

I have a Dell Inspiron laptop (5years old) Centrino 2Ghz 2gig RAM ATI Mobility X300 Graphics card I get approx 20fps in SF2E with all graphics on high except: Mirrors - off Shadows - low Water - low Distance - normal SF2E runs only a little slower on this machine than WOI (I could still have mirrors ON).

This sounds good. Thanks for sharing the teams' work. Will it work for Desert terrain in SF2?

They appear in most campaign missions in SF2 & SF2E. I haven't actually seen them when flying over an airfield, just when I cycle through the object view key - they are usually the last objects in the cycle.

Thanks Mannie. I will look into Photobucket site.

I'm pretty sure that HarleyDavidson don't make monitors nor any IT gear! :yes:

Actually you got it mixed up :.....kill all women, and steal all men! Perverted fiends!!!!

I also would like to edit or get rid of them. Can't find how to do it.

Well, I did say "trying"

Thanks fellas. That's the info I need. You've both been great help! ....... I hope I'm trying to keep away from 3rd party models. Now the TW series is about where I want it so I hardly need to add any mods. But I find the colour schemes, especially for the Israel f4 & f16, to be very boring. Probably quite effective in real life but there's no glamour.

Thanks Ciacho, for you help. I am installing the skins correctly. Just found a skin specifically for WOI F-16 and it worked. I tried to install a F16 skin that was specifically for a Mirage Factory model and another but it didn't specify what model it was for. They didn't show. Allen, do you know some of the skins specifically for WOI stock a/c?

I did add the a/c to the ini AND it was all correctly done ie number sequence, texture ini in the skin folder. When I do a single mission I can get the skin to show in the loadout screen (including the skin's patch).