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After raeding your intial post MJ, I have to say I cant blame you. This game has been a frustration. Your point about us being beta testers is right on. I dont like it either. I buy games to enjoy. And while this one has so much potential, it hasnt been realized yet. So many key parts of the game are missing too like an editor, FF, and direct connect. Yet I have looked forward to this era's coverage for a long time. TK's efforts to get this first patch out and the community efforts at improving it are encouraging. as long as I see work continuing by TK to fix this game and get it were it should be in relation to other sims, Ill continue to support it and play it. Yes despite some problems, I still get a bang out of it. If they stop efforts before I feel its done, Ill never buy another SF or TK product again, period. I think what makes this game bearable right now is this great community. Guys like Ranger, you, Dagger, DK, etc. just to name a few, keep things interesting. Dang! Im gettin all choked up again...time for another group hug... :roll: :D

In IL2 those tanks wouldnt let you park there...

I agre with Dagger and Rogue. I have waited a long time for this game really looking forward to the era it covers aircraft. I think we all knew this first patch wouldnt be an end-all, cure-all. It has taken care of some significant things and is a good step forward. Yes, there is still a LOT of work yet to do so TK after your break, get hot my freind... :) We need that mission editor, a direct connection option, and some force feedback. The Mission editor espesialy, I would like to be able to place ground units and air units giving them waypoints like you can in IL2. I also agree with Rogue, strategy First commited a MAJOR blunder releasing this game early in beta stage, (and thats being kind). I wont be buying any SF products without a very close look on the game forums and a decent demo. They lost my confidence.

This is a letter that went out a few months or so ago asking all his old pals who remember reading Willie and Joe during the war to help out Bill. He was sick in a bed in a nursing home and needed his pals. The article is here...http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/FJ6/Dillow.html. An excerpt from the letter... "For those too young to remember, Bill Mauldin was one of the most famous Americans of World War II. Starting out as an Army infantry private who drew military-life cartoons on the side, he later became a full- time cartoonist for Stars and Stripes, The GI newspaper. His cartoons also appeared in syndication in newspapers across the United States. Mauldin's two main characters were a couple of dogface infantrymen named Willie and Joe. Dirty, unshaven, squatting in muddy foxholes and griping all the while, they represented the millions of ordinary citizen-soldiers for whom the war wasn't a path to glory, bot rather a hard, miserable juob that simply had to be done. And yet, like so many GIs, Willie and Joe somehow found humor in even the toughest situations. High-ranking officers, who were frequently the targets of Willie and Joe's foxhole jokes and gripes, may not have approved of Mauldin's anti-authoritarian outlook and the stand-up-for-the-little-guy tone. But ordinary GIs loved Willie and Joe - and love Bill Mauldin for creating them. So did millions of other Americans. Sgt. Bill Mauldin became one of the most popular cartoonists in American history, and in 1945, at age 23, he was awarded the Pulitzer Prize." A couple of Willie and Joe cartoons from the war... http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/Mainmuse...um/Mauldin2.htm.

Bill Mauldin, the cartoonist and creator of Willie and Joe of WW2 fame passed away today at the age of 81. The man was a soldier and told the story of the foot slogger with heart and humor. One cartoon...Willie and Joe are sitting under a tree dead tired after a big fight with the nazis. An American Officer strode past them with a determined look on his face heading for the front a short distance away. Willie and Joe look at each other and one says, "He aint no combat man." The other replies, "Yeah, he's LOOKIN fer a fight..." <S>

Hopefully "Service Pack 2" will take care of this...and add Force Feedback.

I LOVE YOU GUYS! All these NEAT toys. Gosh, Im gettin all emotional...time for a group hug... :shock: :roll:

Marfighters already has a skin??!!?? Dang that boy is on his TOES! :shock: :D I thought that model was reall too, hehehe. And we have COCKPIT TOO? oh no...Im starting to salivate...must...protect...keyboard...

Where are the aircraft data files stored in the games' folder? I hope I didnt overwrite the new updated files with my old ones when I overwrote the objects/aircraft folder with my original with all the addons skins, aircraft, and configuration files.

Like Fast Eagle said, do a complete delete and reinstall of the game, then apply patch. I found that some folders were still left after delete, so I got rid of them too before reinstall. I backed up the my objects/aircraft folder with all my addon aircraft and skins on my desktop and after reinstall and patch job, overwrote the objects/aircraft folder with my original. Everything so far seems to work fine. Been able to connect to both Gamespy and Hyperlobby. Like Todd said, it works better with patch than without. I couldnt connect at all without patch. Also chatted in HL in the hangerscreen part with no probs. Havent tried the team select part though.

Ill download your hanger screens when they are ready, both of you guys. Now all we'll need is the planes...

Viper the new skins I have, Idid like you and backed up the objects/aircraft folder onto my desktop, just not the whole objects folder, only the aircraft folder. After uninstalling the game and then reinstalling it and applying patch, I simply overwrote the objects/aircraft folder with my original with all my skins and updated .ini files. It seems to work fine in both singleplay and multiplay. Even the addon aircraft like the MiG-21 Lancer, AC-130, and A-1 Skyraider are all there. I have not tried my air to ground weapons yet so cant tell what is happening with you.

Im still haveing the bouncy effect too. I also noticed in the readme with the patch that collisions still dont work except with the ground. I noticed a A-1 skyraider go right thru my MiG during one flight last nite.

I installed the patch into a fresh install of SF. I then added the Euro tileset. When I flew a mission, get this...the wierdest thing happened. My airplane just fell out of the sky where it started despite high throttle. After my unexpected death, I switched views to the other Mig-17's in my flight and they were still flying sloooowly but in a 45 degree yaw to the right! Im not sure what happened here. I am still experimenting to see if I can figure this out. The tileset worked fine before the patch and reinstall of the game. Just thought I'd let you know about this...

You probably already know this but Ill mention it anyway...make sure your loadout screens are Bitmaps at 1024X768. Any other size or file format and they wont work. Hope this helps.

DOH! Comeon fellas, lighten up. First row Ive heard in Biohaz and its a mere misunderstanding. Once the patch is out we can merrily kill each other to our hearts content. Until then, lets be buds. Cant we all just get along?? Now comeone, lets have a group hug here...comeon...there, now wasnt that better? HEY!!! git your hand offa my butt! Who did that?

Ive got things to do this morning and you post this! It aint fair I tell ya...oh well, chores will hafta wait...

This is the video I wanted to upload at Biohaz when the upload function was messed up. Tell me what you think. This is the second version. I am working on a third version of it. http://www.members.cox.net/pcpilot/video/F4Topgun.WMV Thanks...

Any idea when the patch will be available Jeff? As in what time? I doubt midnite will be time. Just curious, doubt they told you.

Ya know, that looks pretty cool. Never seen that one before.

LOL! I'd like to take that challenge and give him a good wollop! :o

That pilots day is about to take a dump...

Quality television...brought to you by FOX... :?

That was a pretty impresive landing. A real nail biter. I hadnt heard of this project. So for 2 million a pop, does that include the 30mm cannon?

WOW! I gotta say Swede that that aircraft model is lookin good dude! Cant wait... :D