eccles Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Hello All, have SFP1, Strike fighters Gold and Wings over Vietnam and love 'em all. And was just wondering if it is at all possible to to start a mission from inside a hanger. I have tried to park my plane in one but blow up. Saw a video on Ytube of a Mirage 2000 coming out of a hanger and taxying to the runway. Could have been from WOE though. Is WOE worth getting? And what is the highest altitude any of you have managed to reach with your plane loaded down with ordnance? all the best eccles Quote
Viggen Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Hello All,have SFP1, Strike fighters Gold and Wings over Vietnam and love 'em all. And was just wondering if it is at all possible to to start a mission from inside a hanger. I have tried to park my plane in one but blow up. Saw a video on Ytube of a Mirage 2000 coming out of a hanger and taxying to the runway. Could have been from WOE though. Is WOE worth getting? And what is the highest altitude any of you have managed to reach with your plane loaded down with ordnance? all the best eccles If you want to fly the F-15 against MiG-23s over Europe then Yes. WOE is not much different from WOV except no carriers . Any way as far as I know you can't start at the hanger. And unfortinatly no Mirage 2000 is avalible at this time plent of Mirage IIIs and its variants :yes: ! Quote
triplethr3at Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 I have seen some pics of a huricane inside a hangar in the battle of brittan feedback thread. I also read that it is not possible to place objects inside objects or fly under bridges. I say wings over europe is worth it because you get some new planes and I like to fly in the europe terrain alot. O and i reached about 50,00 feet witha fully loaded MiG-25. I think I oculd have gone higher though Quote
Viggen Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 I've hit 60000 in the U-2 but thats another story. Quote
tank03 Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 (edited) I think there is a mirage 2000 available, I just can't remember where. I have started off in hangers in some of the YAP missions, therefore it is possible, but the how-to is beyond me. Edited September 8, 2007 by tank03 Quote
SayethWhaaaa Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 I've hit 60000 in the U-2 but thats another story. Lightweights... This is 81394ft resulting from an "accident" I think there is a mirage 2000 available, I just can't remember where. There are at least three being prepped, but they're not quite ready yet... Quote
+Brainless Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Hello All,have SFP1, Strike fighters Gold and Wings over Vietnam and love 'em all. And was just wondering if it is at all possible to to start a mission from inside a hanger. I have tried to park my plane in one but blow up. Saw a video on Ytube of a Mirage 2000 coming out of a hanger and taxying to the runway. Could have been from WOE though. Is WOE worth getting? And what is the highest altitude any of you have managed to reach with your plane loaded down with ordnance? all the best eccles As far as I know you can only start in hangers from YAP ( Yankee Air Pirate add-on) but you can start at the ramp and at other areas but not in the hanger or in revetments in WOE. You need the Mission builder-single aircraft only-Take off set and then reposition your aircraft. Here's some pics but using the Jaguar by the blastshield. Hope this helps! Quote
+Stary Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 I have seen some pics of a huricane inside a hangar in the battle of brittan feedback thread. I also read that it is not possible to place objects inside objects or fly under bridges. I say wings over europe is worth it because you get some new planes and I like to fly in the europe terrain alot. O and i reached about 50,00 feet witha fully loaded MiG-25. I think I oculd have gone higher though The hurricane was a static ground object placed inside (at the same coordinates as) static hangar just for base-life immersion purpose. WoE is my favourite installment due to familiar surroundings. And have some pretty planes (Hunter), plus excellent free NATO Fighters addon. Quote
eccles Posted September 9, 2007 Author Posted September 9, 2007 Thank you for the replies, Managed to get a Kfir up to 43,500ft at 2am this morning and that was about it. Maybe could have gone higher but my eyelids were starting to droop. Will be getting WOE, as soon as I can find a copy over here [Oz]. YAP sounds like the biz too. So many great addons, so little time. Look forward to the Mirage 2000 fighters when they become available. Have downloaded a beauty for FS9 the 2000N, 2000A and the 2000L. cheers for now eccles Quote
Hals Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 YAP sounds like the biz too. Eccles, I've just "discovered" YAP myself and have been blown away by it. What a peice of work! Hat's off to all who made that one. Thankyou. Quote
+comrpnt Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 I think there is a mirage 2000 available, I just can't remember where. I have started off in hangers in some of the YAP missions, therefore it is possible, but the how-to is beyond me. Hi Folks, thought I'd just pass on some info on how you start a mission from a hangar. The following details can be ported between SFG/SFP1, WOV and WOE. First, you need a hangar. If you go for the stock GroundObject 'ShelterA' then you need to be aware of a mesh collision bug that exists, which prevents your aircraft from starting deep inside the hangar (as detailed in my previous post, here: http://bbs.thirdwire.com/phpBB/viewtopic.p...angar+collision). BTW, YAP solves this problem by shipping an alternative ShelterA which allows your aircraft to move safely inside. The rest of this post assumes that you're using the stock TW ShelterA. It's a fairly long post but the results are worth the effort. As an example, for WOV, Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) sheds can be placed at the Southern end of the runway at Da Nang by inserting the following lines in the 'Da Nang Air Base' entry of the /Terrain/VietnamSEA/VietnamSEA_targets.ini file (reset the index numbers accordingly -- the next available number in my install was 96): ========= ; ;Da Nang Air Base QRA support buildings and vehicles ; ; QRA crew quarters Target[096].Type=building2 Target[096].Offset=127,-1276 Target[096].Heading=270 ; Q-shed for A/C-1 Target[097].Type=ShelterA Target[097].Offset=99,-1276 Target[097].Heading=180 ; Q-shed for A/C-2 Target[098].Type=ShelterA Target[098].Offset=154,-1276 Target[098].Heading=180 ; A/C 1 generator Target[099].Type=powercart Target[099].Offset=89,-1283 Target[099].Heading=185 ; A/C 2 generator Target[100].Type=powercart Target[100].Offset=144,-1283 Target[100].Heading=190 ; A/C 1-1 Target[101].Type=bombtrailer Target[101].Offset=109,-1286 Target[101].Heading=190 ; A/C 1-2 Target[102].Type=bombtrailer Target[102].Offset=109,-1280 Target[102].Heading=195 ; A/C 1-3 Target[103].Type=bombtrailer Target[103].Offset=109,-1275 Target[103].Heading=185 ; A/C 2-1 Target[104].Type=bombtrailer Target[104].Offset=164,-1286 Target[104].Heading=185 ; A/C 2-2 Target[105].Type=bombtrailer Target[105].Offset=164,-1280 Target[105].Heading=190 ; A/C 1 Target[106].Type=oildrum6 Target[106].Offset=109,-1270 Target[106].Heading=180 ; A/C 2 Target[107].Type=oildrum9 Target[107].Offset=163,-1271 Target[107].Heading=180 ; A/C 1 Target[108].Type=fueltank3 Target[108].Offset=99,-1255 Target[108].Heading=90 ; A/C 2 Target[109].Type=fueltank3 Target[109].Offset=154,-1255 Target[109].Heading=90 ; ;South buildings and vehicles ; Crew quarters Target[110].Type=building2 Target[110].Offset=154,1275 Target[110].Heading=270 ; Generator Target[111].Type=powercart Target[111].Offset=110,1280 Target[111].Heading=355 ; Bomb trailer Target[112].Type=bombtrailer Target[112].Offset=112,1270 Target[112].Heading=345 ; Fuel tank behind hard stand Target[113].Type=fueltank3 Target[113].Offset=100,1250 Target[113].Heading=270 ========= To light up the QRA complex add the following to the /Terrain/VietnamSEA/vietnamSEA_airfield1.ini file (re-index accordingly): ========= ; QRA anti-collision lights [LightSet0xx] LightOn=1.25 Color=1.0,0.0,0.0 Material=LightMaterial Height=13.0000 Size=00.2000 Directional=FALSE Direction=360 Prefix=ESPoint ESPoint001=99,-1262 ESPoint002=99,-1290 ESPoint003=154,-1262 ESPoint004=154,-1290 ; QRA Hangar interior lights x3 [LightSet0xx] LightOn=1.25 Color=0.88,0.88,0.88 Material=LightMaterial Height=9.5000 Size=00.5000 Directional=FALSE Direction=360 Prefix=ESPoint ESPoint001=99,-1264 ;Front ESPoint002=99,-1276 ;Middle ESPoint003=99,-1288 ;Back ; ESPoint004=154,-1264 ;Front ESPoint005=154,-1276 ;Middle ESPoint006=154,-1288 ;Back ========= This will result in the following additions to the Da Nang airfield...(minus the Alert aircraft for now)... Now that the QRA complex is complete write a mission to place your aircraft just inside the hangar. Alas, just inside is the best you'll get with the stock ShelterA due to the aforementioned Collision Bug (see above link). Below is a simple mission that does just that, using F-4Es (a flyable one and a static*) *Details on creating static aircraft for SFG/SFP1, WOV and WOE can be found in the following uploads: SFG/SFP1: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autom...p;showfile=4313 WOV: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autom...p;showfile=4314 WOE: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autom...p;showfile=4315 Save the following as a .msn file and load it into WOV: ========= ; Sample mission starting from QRA/Alert sheds at Southern end of Da Nang airfield. ; ; Taxi out, launch and head North-East towards following patrol area waypoints. ; ; Waypoints are set for intercept point and then return to Da Nang. ; ; Good luck! (PNT) [MissionHeader] AircraftType=F-4E MissionMap=VietnamSEA MissionType=INTERCEPT StartDate=10/20/1969 StartTime=08:30 [Weather] WeatherType=RANDOM WeatherAlt=1100 WeatherThickness=1000.0 HasHighLayer=FALSE HighLayerAlt=12000 FogAmount=0.6 ContrailAlt=12000 StartWindDirection=090 StartWindSpeed=3 WindGustingAmount=6 [MissionData] FriendlyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirDefenseActivity=2 FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=0 PlayerMissionID=1 PlayerPositionID=1 MissionNumber=1 AdjustStartPosition=FALSE AdjustBaseWaypoint=FALSE ;******************************************************************** ;Players QRA Aircraft (Shed 2 - furthest from runway) [AircraftMission001] AircraftType=F-4E Name=Tiger FormationType=Single Texture=USAFtng1 Squadron=555TFS AircraftNumber=1 Size=1 ObjectiveID=1 RatingForSuccess=50 StartOnGround=TRUE ; Note: nose of aircraft MUST be slightly out of shed ; to avoid collision mesh bug with ShelterA ground object Position=636154,490700,0 StartTime=0 Heading=180 Speed=0 Alignment=FRIENDLY AmmoPercent=100 FuelPercent=100 Loadout=AirToAirLongRange TracerMixRatio=50 PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT TargetArea= Nation=USAF ; Take off (mandatory WP) Waypoint[01].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[01].Position=636000,492000,0 Waypoint[01].Size=50 Waypoint[01].Speed=90 ; Depart airfield airspace (mandatory WP) Waypoint[02].Command=DEPARTURE Waypoint[02].Position=636000,502000,800 Waypoint[02].Size=50 Waypoint[02].Speed=180 ; Intercept point Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[03].Position=720000,632000,7620 Waypoint[03].Speed=220 Waypoint[03].Size=50 ; Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Position=636000,570000,4000 Waypoint[04].Speed=220 Waypoint[04].Size=50 ; Da Nang approach (from the North) Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Position=636000,530000,2000 Waypoint[05].Speed=180 Waypoint[05].Size=50 ; Waypoint[06].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[06].Position=636000,520000,1200 Waypoint[06].Speed=180 Waypoint[06].Size=50 ; If you made it this far, then you win! Waypoint[07].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[07].Position=636000,510000,800 Waypoint[07].Speed=150 Waypoint[07].Size=50 Waypoint[07].Objective=TRUE ; Waypoint[08].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[08].Position=636000,492900,0 Waypoint[08].Speed=10 Waypoint[08].Size=1 ; Static F4-E (canopy open) in QRA/Alert Shed 1 (nearest runway) [AircraftMission002] AircraftType=F-4E_StaticC Name=Static F4-E on Alert @Da Nang FormationType=Single Texture=USAFtng1 Squadron=555TFS AircraftNumber=2 Size=1 ObjectiveID= RatingForSuccess=50 StartOnGround=TRUE ; Note: static aircraft is safe deep within the hangar ; as it has no active collision mesh Position=636099,490724,0 StartTime=0 Heading=180 Speed=0 Alignment=FRIENDLY AmmoPercent=100 FuelPercent=0 Loadout=AirToAirLongRange PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT Nation=USAF ========= The result looks something like this as soon as the above mission opens... Hopefully this info should help you create your own hangar-starting missions. Regards, comrpnt :-) Quote
eccles Posted September 26, 2007 Author Posted September 26, 2007 Thanks comrpnt, bloody brilliant will try this asap. best regards eccles Quote
Bamzi Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 How to save it as msn file? could you please explain step by step? thanks Quote
WINGEDHUSSAR Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Hello All, have SFP1, Strike fighters Gold and Wings over Vietnam and love 'em all. And was just wondering if it is at all possible to to start a mission from inside a hanger. I have tried to park my plane in one but blow up. Saw a video on Ytube of a Mirage 2000 coming out of a hanger and taxying to the runway. Could have been from WOE though. Is WOE worth getting? And what is the highest altitude any of you have managed to reach with your plane loaded down with ordnance? all the best eccles i have SFP1, highest ive gone in general was "sub-orbital", 400,000ft with SR-71 (firewalled in full afterburner, gradual climb, not straight up), loaded ive gotten a F-15E to about 90kft Quote
yubba Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 How about we get ramp start,, in that big empty lot, forward of the hangars which most airbases have and call it a day. Quote
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