mppd Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 I started another round of trying to accurize the WOV F-4 again with my limited skills. If I could find a way to delete the existing intermediate pylons and AIM-9 rails, we could create a new pylon with correct extended rails, correct AIM-4D Falcon rails, and the early Navy style pylons as add-on parts. I posted a query at TW's Forum, and FastCargo pointed me at Dave's submission available here (F-100A "Rehab" of the ROCAF) where some parts were deleted by making them components in the data.ini. I took a second look at this, and if this works, it could be one of the most significant modder finds yet! We could delete any fixed part and add another that we create! Will try it tonight, but this looks like DYNAMITE to modders - it certainly deserves its own thread!! Someone deserves a medal if this works...!! Mike D. Quote
Spinners Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 You've got a real passion for the F-4 and the era haven't you? Good luck with it and when you master the technique I'll be asking for some help! Quote
mppd Posted September 29, 2008 Author Posted September 29, 2008 I guess I can't help but want to make a great sim even better, but there's no way I could do a whole airframe myself. By taking what others have already done and making some tweaks/art/3D parts it just helps the immersion for me. If this works it just opens the door to anyone doing most anything to the basic airframe for any plane! Add your favorite antenna or whatever. Sorry for the enthusiasm...! I just love this sim and this hobby. It has taken the place of scale aircraft modeling for me. Mike Quote
Spinners Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 After a steep learning curve, I've just used p10ppy's method to remove the TISEO and bolt-on fuel probe from TMF's Kurnass! http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=31385 Quote
mppd Posted September 29, 2008 Author Posted September 29, 2008 Here's the super MF RF-4C without tape lights! Man, this is just like Christmas!! Mike Quote
Spinners Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Is it possible to remove them en bloc or does it have to be one at a time? Quote
mppd Posted September 29, 2008 Author Posted September 29, 2008 The way Dave did it with his F-100 was one item at a time, but it seems to work great. I too removed the Kurnass bolt-on probe - so now I have an F-4E with TISEO. Just add the tail RHAW and I'll have a Rivet Haste slatted F-4E at Udorn in the fall of 1972. I started work on new intermediate pylons. The RF-4C will need a fill-in part at the wingtips as the tape light was a block that fit into the tip. Mike Quote
+suhsjake Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Hey mppd, Maybe you should write a tutorial to put into the knowledge base. Quote
+ST0RM Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Wow, things just get better and better. Great work! Storm Quote
kct Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 You can also look at Black's Su-27SM Flanker mod, he removed the original IRST from the Flanker with an data.ini entry. It is a different method, but it might work. Quote
Spinners Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Ooooh, I've realised that we can have RF-4E's without the probe now can't we? Perfect for my what-ifs!! Quote
Spinners Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Slatted-wing F-4S but without the intake RHAW bumps using p10ppy's 'add to subtract' method! Quote
+suhsjake Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) I made a quick A-4A. Pretty nifty the way the F-100AD team does it and it only took me one shot at it. EDIT Made a quick change to the paint on the tail. Need to see if I can remove the Refueling Probe base, got to wait for TK on the OUT file. Edited September 30, 2008 by suhsjake Quote
Tannethal Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Hi there, I'm unable to find the mentioned F100 here at CA. Anyone be so kind and point me towards it? Thanks in advance S! Quote
mppd Posted October 3, 2008 Author Posted October 3, 2008 http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=5839 As an example, if you intend to make the left outer wing disappear: Locate the parts you want to be invisible (by way of .OUT file or browsing thru with a hex editor) and designating them as components in the first [AircraftData] section - along with the major components such as wings/fuselage/etc. - but with a different name - such as: Component[008]=HideLeftOuterWing Then directly below it paste a paragraph such as this: [HideLeftOuterWing] ParentComponentName=LeftInnerWing ModelNodeName=HideLeftOuterWing_ok DestroyedNodeName=HideLeftOuterWing DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE Check out the F-100 file that Dave created and see how it is done. I take no credit for this - Dave mentions screen names of other individuals who helped him, but this is just fabulous. Mike Quote
Jug Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Hey mppd, Maybe you should write a tutorial to put into the knowledge base. mppd, I'll vote for that. Great work. Quote
mppd Posted October 3, 2008 Author Posted October 3, 2008 No .INI edit needed - just use Sidewinders or 20mm. Quote
Tannethal Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 mppd: thanks for the explanation, more work to do. btw: fixed your great F4 tailcode system so it doesn't interfere with the 'new' patched squadronlist.ini Lots of renaming but couldn't stand WoV without it. S! Quote
+Crusader Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 I made a quick A-4A. Pretty nifty the way the F-100AD team does it and it only took me one shot at it. EDIT Made a quick change to the paint on the tail. Need to see if I can remove the Refueling Probe base, got to wait for TK on the OUT file. http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s237/su...e/A-4A_Test.jpg Probe_Ridge :ph34r: Quote
Wrench Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 After almost 5 hours of work (the out file didn't have too many things actually named, or named oddly like "cylinder***. So it was go down the list one by one until you find it kinda thing...) P-26 for Chinese Air Force before: After: Much closer to the historical version. Unfortuantely, you can't remove the wing-to-wing ariel wires, as they're part of the 'flying wires'. Mast is removable, but I chose to leave it. So, we'll assume the mast and wires are for the XM satelite radio! That works like a charm!!! Wrench kevin stein Quote
mppd Posted October 4, 2008 Author Posted October 4, 2008 mppd: thanks for the explanation, more work to do. btw: fixed your great F4 tailcode system so it doesn't interfere with the 'new' patched squadronlist.ini Lots of renaming but couldn't stand WoV without it. S! Why not repost it so everyone can use it. I had started fixing a couple of things that I found wrong, but got sidetracked with this 3D stuff that I'm still learning. No use restrictions on anything I make! Mike Quote
+suhsjake Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 I think bells are a ringing in Wrench's ears. VA-72 Med. Tour 1956 PS Might be a good time to ask your permission to include the skin the mod, so can I?. Quote
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