Removing F-4 pylons/rails

[mppd 16]

I started another round of trying to accurize the WOV F-4 again with my limited skills. If I could find a way to delete the existing intermediate pylons and AIM-9 rails, we could create a new pylon with correct extended rails, correct AIM-4D Falcon rails, and the early Navy style pylons as add-on parts. I posted a query at TW's Forum, and FastCargo pointed me at Dave's submission available here (F-100A "Rehab" of the ROCAF) where some parts were deleted by making them components in the data.ini. I took a second look at this, and if this works, it could be one of the most significant modder finds yet! We could delete any fixed part and add another that we create! Will try it tonight, but this looks like DYNAMITE to modders - it certainly deserves its own thread!! Someone deserves a medal if this works...!!

 

Mike D.

[Spinners 15,982]

You've got a real passion for the F-4 and the era haven't you? Good luck with it and when you master the technique I'll be asking for some help!

[mppd 16]

I guess I can't help but want to make a great sim even better, but there's no way I could do a whole airframe myself. By taking what others have already done and making some tweaks/art/3D parts it just helps the immersion for me. If this works it just opens the door to anyone doing most anything to the basic airframe for any plane! Add your favorite antenna or whatever.

 

Sorry for the enthusiasm...! I just love this sim and this hobby. It has taken the place of scale aircraft modeling for me.

 

Mike

[mppd 16]

Hot damn, it works...

[Spinners 15,982]

After a steep learning curve, I've just used p10ppy's method to remove the TISEO and bolt-on fuel probe from TMF's Kurnass!

 

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=31385

[mppd 16]

Here's the super MF RF-4C without tape lights! Man, this is just like Christmas!!

 

Mike

[Spinners 15,982]

Is it possible to remove them en bloc or does it have to be one at a time?

[mppd 16]

The way Dave did it with his F-100 was one item at a time, but it seems to work great. I too removed the Kurnass bolt-on probe - so now I have an F-4E with TISEO. Just add the tail RHAW and I'll have a Rivet Haste slatted F-4E at Udorn in the fall of 1972.

 

I started work on new intermediate pylons. The RF-4C will need a fill-in part at the wingtips as the tape light was a block that fit into the tip.

 

Mike

[+suhsjake 11]

Hey mppd,

 

Maybe you should write a tutorial to put into the knowledge base.

[+ST0RM 145]

Wow, things just get better and better. Great work!

 

Storm

[kct 5]

You can also look at Black's Su-27SM Flanker mod, he removed the original IRST from the Flanker with an data.ini entry. It is a different method, but it might work.

[Spinners 15,982]

Ooooh, I've realised that we can have RF-4E's without the probe now can't we? Perfect for my what-ifs!!

[Spinners 15,982]

Slatted-wing F-4S but without the intake RHAW bumps using p10ppy's 'add to subtract' method!

[+suhsjake 11]

I made a quick A-4A. Pretty nifty the way the F-100AD team does it and it only took me one shot at it.

 

EDIT

 

Made a quick change to the paint on the tail. Need to see if I can remove the Refueling Probe base, got to wait for TK on the OUT file.

 

Edited September 30, 2008 by suhsjake

[Tannethal 2]

Hi there,

 

I'm unable to find the mentioned F100 here at CA. Anyone be so kind and point me towards it?

 

Thanks in advance

 

S!

[mppd 16]

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=5839

 

As an example, if you intend to make the left outer wing disappear:

 

Locate the parts you want to be invisible (by way of .OUT file or browsing thru with a hex editor) and designating them as components in the first [AircraftData] section - along with the major components such as wings/fuselage/etc. - but with a different name - such as:

 

Component[008]=HideLeftOuterWing

 

Then directly below it paste a paragraph such as this:

 

[HideLeftOuterWing]

ParentComponentName=LeftInnerWing

ModelNodeName=HideLeftOuterWing_ok

DestroyedNodeName=HideLeftOuterWing

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

Check out the F-100 file that Dave created and see how it is done. I take no credit for this - Dave mentions screen names of other individuals who helped him, but this is just fabulous.

 

Mike

[+Jug 99]

Hey mppd,

 

Maybe you should write a tutorial to put into the knowledge base.

mppd, I'll vote for that. Great work.

[Spinners 15,982]

Can you make MiG-17's disappear

[mppd 16]

No .INI edit needed - just use Sidewinders or 20mm.

[Tannethal 2]

mppd: thanks for the explanation, more work to do.

 

btw: fixed your great F4 tailcode system so it doesn't interfere with the 'new' patched squadronlist.ini

Lots of renaming but couldn't stand WoV without it.

 

S!

[+Crusader 2,077]

I made a quick A-4A. Pretty nifty the way the F-100AD team does it and it only took me one shot at it.

 

EDIT

 

Made a quick change to the paint on the tail. Need to see if I can remove the Refueling Probe base, got to wait for TK on the OUT file.

 

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s237/su...e/A-4A_Test.jpg

 

 

Probe_Ridge :ph34r:

[Wrench 9,637]

After almost 5 hours of work (the out file didn't have too many things actually named, or named oddly like "cylinder***. So it was go down the list one by one until you find it kinda thing...)

 

P-26 for Chinese Air Force

 

before:

 

 

After:

 

Much closer to the historical version. Unfortuantely, you can't remove the wing-to-wing ariel wires, as they're part of the 'flying wires'. Mast is removable, but I chose to leave it. So, we'll assume the mast and wires are for the XM satelite radio!

 

That works like a charm!!!

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[+suhsjake 11]

Cheers Crusader.

[mppd 16]

mppd: thanks for the explanation, more work to do.

 

btw: fixed your great F4 tailcode system so it doesn't interfere with the 'new' patched squadronlist.ini

Lots of renaming but couldn't stand WoV without it.

 

S!

 

Why not repost it so everyone can use it. I had started fixing a couple of things that I found wrong, but got sidetracked with this 3D stuff that I'm still learning. No use restrictions on anything I make!

 

Mike

[+suhsjake 11]

I think bells are a ringing in Wrench's ears.

 

VA-72 Med. Tour 1956

 

PS

 

Might be a good time to ask your permission to include the skin the mod, so can I?.