+Stary 2,427 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Not much details available yet, one Su-27 crashed during aerobatics at Radom Airshow, Poland. 2 pilots onboard, their whereabouts yet unknown (?) Su-27 from Belarus here's the extended info and photo after the crash, site in polish My link Edited August 30, 2009 by Stary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted August 30, 2009 Both pilots from Belarussian Airforce died in the crash, the Airshow spokesman said. RIP Plane creashed in populated area, hope no victims on the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emp_Palpatine 501 Posted August 30, 2009 Again... Poor pilots and families. Hope everyone is safe on the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wraith27 6 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) RIP All safe on the ground. Possible that they were not ejecting because they were saveing nearest buildings. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CloKIrKUQrc Edited August 30, 2009 by CIACHO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacGalin 5 Posted August 30, 2009 I was there as well. From what i saw the pilot wanted to close the loop on very low altitude, and for some reason stalled the aircraft. Maybe he had some engine trouble in final seconds, but im not expert, and it all happened in a blur... I did not see crash itself - just a plane disapperating behind the woodline, then after few seconds a cloud of thick black smoke. The sound of explosion wasnt heard on airshow grounds, so the whole tragedy happened in complete silence. TV relation from the crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laN2nbT8FM8&e&fmt=18 Also, AFAIK, It wasnt ordinary Su-27UB - It was supposed to be one of two belarussian modified Su-27UBM, a local modification. And one of the pilots flying it was second-in-chief of belarussian air force. Also, our media say that pilots did not eject, because they did not want for the plane to crash in populated area. While this might be a feel-good speculation, but if its true, then those guys saved many lives by sacrificing their own. And of course the airshow was cancelled. Before the crash we saw Red Arrows and finland's Midnight Hawks. After Su-27 There was suppopsed to be a mock dogfight between pair of polish airforce new F-16s and a pair of not-so-new Mig-29s. Anyway, R.I.P. ['] Im still kind of shocked, this whole thing seemed unreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
az12121 0 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) I saw it personally too.... In my opinion it might be an engine failure. In first moment after that crush I thought that it was pilot's mistake but now I'm sure that it was engine failure.Men who live in home very near to crash site and he saw that crush from small distance said that engines haven't worked and he haven't heard any sound to the moment of crush.I heard too conversation of firefighter and doctor after crush and they told that Su-27 crushed into forest with low speed very near to populated area (100m.from nearest home), and there wasn't any explosion just fire.They told too that body of first crew member was in so good state that medical service tried to resuscitate him.I don't know how many thruth is in last information but...They were very experienced pilots, and it's very possible that when they knew that they will crush into homes they decided to not eject and start trying to go away from buildings and lead out plane from stall.It was very heroic.They can be a heroes. Link to photos linked by Signum on polish forum R.I.P Edited August 30, 2009 by az12121 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted August 30, 2009 Absolute tragedy! - really sad to see another go down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Kulbit80 1,399 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Belarusian Su-27 crashed on air show in Radom's airfield. Two experienced pilots died, didn't use catapult. Edited August 31, 2009 by Fates Merged Topics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacGalin 5 Posted August 31, 2009 Here's some of my photos from the show: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted August 31, 2009 I forgot Belarus had Flankers. I just watched Defiance about the Jewish resistance in Belarus last weekend, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emp_Palpatine 501 Posted August 31, 2009 Quite strange and moving to see this bird and the pilots take off. knowing what is to come... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Signum 0 Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) Probably next air show's in poland can be remove into other city... maybe Mielec. R.I.P Edited September 1, 2009 by Signum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DWCAce 19 Posted September 1, 2009 Having seen a crew lost during an airshow, I know it's hard to see. Hopefully no one on the ground was injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacGalin 5 Posted September 1, 2009 Having seen a crew lost during an airshow, I know it's hard to see. Hopefully no one on the ground was injured. Nobody on the ground was injured. According to our media, they reported engine trouble in last moments of flight, ground control advised them to eject but they refused - this would support the theory that they died because they wanted to save people on ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacGalin 5 Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) I found a relation from eye-witness of the crash. He is a pilot, and seems to know what is he talking about: I was on Airshow and I saw this crash - but from other perspective, I was on place of catastrophe as well, an i've heard direct relations from people there. I'm a pilot with few decades of experience myself. Su-27 finished right side barrel roll,and started to dive, at the moment it seemed that they are going to end the manevouer with half loop low over the ground. When it started to dive it was facing S-W. After few seconds of flight in this direction, pilot started to pull up to level the plane, but it seems that engines had no thrust that should accompany this manevouer (engine trouble?), and plane was stalling - going down fast. At this moment, pilots correct their course, turning south, to avoid falling on houses of Janowo village. Now, flying low with stalled plane, they pass abut 150m from crossroads at Malęczyn, flying just over rooftop of houses there and straight into buildings crossing their flight patch. Over one of bigger residences in the area [where there was a big party going on at the moment (after baptism ceremony of their child) ], pilots execute a sharp left turn. Plane is now flying at 90 degree roll, it changes its heading for about 25 degree, hits ground with its wing, flips over and explodes. Thuis manevouer saves the buildings, but costs the pilots their chance to eject - at the moment of the crash, plane's canopy was not facing up. From my friends at airport tower, i found that pilots reported lack of thrust, and were ordered to eject. They havent ejected at first because they were concerned about people on the ground, and after they ensured their safety, they were no longer able to bail out. God rest their sould. I think that they were heroes, and citizens of Maleczyn should build monument to honour their sacrifice that saved their families and neighbours. I wrote this in response to babbling of TV pseudoexperts, who while knowing nothing about the subject ranted about it in our tv, and in response to morons makind retarded comments on web forums. Translation was done to the best of my, rather poor, abilities - im not sure about some of the technical terms, but i hope the relation is clear enough to understand. Edited September 2, 2009 by MacGalin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emp_Palpatine 501 Posted September 2, 2009 Thanks for your translation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
