Spinners Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Decades ago when I was in my early teens I bought a book called "A Pictorial History of the RAF - Volume 3 1945 to 1969" and perhaps my interest in 'what if's' can be found from within those pages. Page 82 refers to the 1950 RAF display at Farnborough, where the famous Amiens Jail raid was recreated and shows a delightful picture of six clipped-wing Spitfires in full WW2 Luftwaffe markings "masquerading as Messerschmitt Bf109's" - a lovely phrase don't you think? Anyway, this thread is for 'what if's' that use an aircraft to pretend to be an entirely different aircraft and probably from a different nation. This isn't just decals added to an F-14 to make an RAF Tomcat (guilty as charged!) but something entirely different like my Aero L.23 that is a Super Mystere masquerading as a fictional Cold War Czech fighter. A more recent example was my Lavochkin La-13 'Fibber' using the Focke-Wulf Ta-183 Wrench (the original 'what if' guru of this site) has done a couple of 'masquerades' and here is his Northrop F-79 Manta So, there you go. C'mon, give us your 'masquerades'! If you've done one before, repost it here. Give us your thoughts, give us some ideas and give us some pictures! 1 Quote
Spinners Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 Saab J21-R masquerading as the Westland Warrior FB.3 Quote
Wrench Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 AH HA! The Admins restored a couple of the Moderator functions, and I've stickied this, as per your request Spinners! Now,to find some of screenies of my other mods for the Masquerade.... wrench kevin stein Quote
Wrench Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Found one! Ar-296, Arado-built version of the B6N 'Jill', as flown from land bases or the KM Graf Zepellin (carrier) wrench kevin stein Quote
Wrench Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 a lot of my 'what ifs' were WW2 time frame... Kawasaki Ki-109 "Mike" and the Ki-201 'Night Dragon' wrench kevin stein Quote
Spinners Posted March 12, 2011 Author Posted March 12, 2011 From the archives, the Ryan Fireball masquerading as the Gloster Gemini fighter-bomber! Long before the Gloster Aircraft Company had got Britain's first jet aircraft (the E.28/39) into the air the design team had realised that any production jet fighter would need much more thrust than the paltry 750lbs then being offered by Frank Whittle's Power Jets company. Whilst still on the test bench the early W.1 jet engine had sluggish acceleration and was optimistically considered 'marginal' for a production fighter aircraft. Furthermore, this new technology seemed to be totally unsuitable for making any kind of combat aircraft for naval use as operations from an aircraft carrier demand adequate (and near instantly available) power for takeoff and landing. Whilst George Carter looked at a twin jet-enginned aircraft (eventually to become the Meteor) he also studied a composite twin-enginned design using a conventional piston engine for flight but with a jet engine for higher speeds. The composite twin-enginned concept quickly led to the company name of Gloster Gemini. Despite any official interest the company steadily moved the Gemini project forward. Denied access to the Bristol Centaurus engine Carter sized the Gemini around the 1,700 h.p. Bristol Hercules XVII radial piston engine and allowed space for the proposed Power Jets W.2B jet engine rated at 1,700lbs thrust. First flown (on piston power only) by company test pilot John Grierson on May 1st, 1943 the Gemini failed to attract the interest of the Admiralty but was studied by the Air Ministry who gave Gloster a development contract to produce interceptor-fighter and fighter-bomber versions for the RAF as the Gemini F.1 and Gemini FB.2 respectively. During late 1943, the Air Ministry asked Glosters to suspend work on the FB.2 version and urgently proceed with the F.1 versions of the Meteor and Gemini to meet "an expected German aerial threat from pilotless aircraft during the Spring of 1944". Whilst Gloster did their best the Gemini soon fell behind this ridiculous schedule and in May 1944 the Air Ministry instructed Glosters to switch priority to the FB.2 version for overseas use and the invasion of Japan. Entering service in August 1945 only 140 FB.2's entered service with most sent to RAF Middle East Command before quickly being replaced by Vampires. Prototype Quote
Spinners Posted March 12, 2011 Author Posted March 12, 2011 were did get the Fireball?? The DAT site - a great resource for the more esoteric types. Quote
+KnightWolf45 Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 ok must have missed it well dat his very usable to bad Quote
Spinners Posted March 12, 2011 Author Posted March 12, 2011 AleDucat's SAIA90 masquerading as the Yak-45 'Fullback' Ingredients; AleDucats SAIA90 (check it out!) Torno's FAA skin MiG-23 Wing Tanks from stock A few decals by me and stock red 'bort' numbers More pictures at my 'what if' thread at What If Modelers (link below) 2 Quote
Viggen Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Spinners, your Yak is going to need a new reporting name. The Su-34 already has that. Your lighting in the first picture looks really cool though. How'd you do that? Quote
Spinners Posted March 14, 2011 Author Posted March 14, 2011 Spinners, your Yak is going to need a new reporting name. The Su-34 already has that. Your lighting in the first picture looks really cool though. How'd you do that? I'm not too hot on the modern 'glass cockpit' era so was unaware of the 'Fullback' name but I can, of course, claim it as my Yak-45 is a contemporary of the Fulcrum! The lighting is simply the aircraft lights being on (at dawn IIRC) and whatever DX10 does in SF2. Quote
Spinners Posted March 17, 2011 Author Posted March 17, 2011 The Arado Ar-234B masquerading as the Boulton-Paul Orion PR.2... Quote
PraetorH Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Looks interesting in British colours - disturbingly fitting actually... Quote
Spinners Posted April 2, 2011 Author Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) Sukhoi Su-3 'Flatfoot' - Berlin Sector, Frontovaya Aviatsiya, Soviet Air Forces, 1949 The Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation CA-15B masquerading as the Sukhoi Su-3 high-altitude fighter! More photo's on my 'what if' thread (link below) last page http://www.whatifmod...ic,18821.0.html Edited April 3, 2011 by Spinners Quote
Spinners Posted April 4, 2011 Author Posted April 4, 2011 The Northrop B-49 masquerading as the prototype De Havilland Viking B.1 As always, more photographs (B.1, B.2 and B.3) are at my thread on the 'what if' modellers website - link below. Kudos and thanks to the legend that is "Wrench, The" for passing on the Viking to which I have simply added some decals. Quote
+allenjb42 Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Nice one Spinners. Would they have still been around in '82 for the Black Buck missions? Quote
Spinners Posted April 4, 2011 Author Posted April 4, 2011 Probably not but I couldn't resist allocating '1982' to the date on the B.3 pics! Quote
Wrench Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 (edited) (insert radio/tv advert announcer's voice) "Also available, at no extra charge, in Anti-Flash White and RAF 2-Tone Camo" spinners, don't forget the B-49s on site ... there might be some ini edits and decals you can use (A/R slipwaydoor decal) wrench kevin stein Edited April 4, 2011 by Wrench Quote
Spinners Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 The Hawker Hunter F.4 masquerading as the Yokosuka Ki-299 interceptor-fighter! Yokosuka Ki-299 'Hunter' - Imperial Japanese Army Air Force, 1954 Quote
+Baltika Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) Hi Spinners, Do you take requests Can we have a stock SF2 Meteor masquerading as the Me-262? Please Edited April 10, 2011 by Baltika Quote
Spinners Posted April 12, 2011 Author Posted April 12, 2011 The Gloster Meteor F.8 masquerading as the Heinkel He.380 jet fighter Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 you do know your countrymen are about to kick your arse, well maybe your ear still this Yank think it looks good. no way to make the straight wing meteor look like the swept wing Me 262 but that is a very passable second choice. Quote
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