AvalancheDiode Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 I would presume that the war in Aegean sea could be a good scenario. Both Greece and Turkey operates similar aircrafts. The campaign could be: 195x territorial war 1962 Cypriot war 1974 Cypriot war 2 1982 total war Make the US incapable of choosing allies and Soviet Union supporting Bulgaria aiding Greece and putting pressure on Edirne and Istanbul, the campaigns could be very interesting. Any thoughts? Quote
macelena Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 Well, there is a map wich, with little editing, could serve. I had a install wich allowed to represent greco-turkish conflict since the 60 to the present day. I lost it , however. But indeed, it could be done Quote
tiopilotos Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 The critical times for the Greek - Turkish relation were 3 since 1974. July 1974 Cyprus March 1987 Sismik January 1996 Imia It could be a very interesting scenario if these campaigns could be made. Quote
+PureBlue Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) I've been planning on designing a few campaings for this region. Stay tuned for the Anatolia Terrain which you can use as a base for your campaigns. Will start uploading shortly Edited March 26, 2011 by PureBlue Quote
+Brain32 Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 I've been planning on designing a few campaings for this region. Stay tuned for the Anatolia Terrain which you can use as a base for your campaigns. Will start uploading shortly When you say "shorty"....that means today? Quote
+KnightWolf45 Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 When you say "shorty"....that means today? sure hope so Quote
AvalancheDiode Posted March 26, 2011 Author Posted March 26, 2011 Yes, waiting approval as we speak Wish something and it comes true. This is must be my lucky day. Thanks for creating the map and mission and so on. Now I wish there's an AIDC F-CK-1 A/B/C/D add on to Taiwan campaign. Quote
macelena Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 Wish something and it comes true. This is must be my lucky day. Thanks for creating the map and mission and so on. Now I wish there's an AIDC F-CK-1 A/B/C/D add on to Taiwan campaign. There is one, in the Dev´s A-Team site. Registration required Quote
+paulopanz Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Well this 1974 Orbat THK in 1974 1. Taktik Havva Kuvveti (1st Tactical Air Force) 1 AJÜ, Eskisehir - 111. Filo: F-100D/F - 112. Filo: F-4E (in training) - 113. Filo: RF-84F 3 AJÜ, Konya - 131. Filo: F-100F/C - 132. Filo: F-100C/D 4 AJÜ, Mürted - 141. Filo: F-104G, temporarily deployed to Balikesir - 142. Filo: F-102A, temporarily deployed to Balikesir 6 AJÜ, Bandirma - 161. Filo: F-5A - 162. Filo: RF-5A/F-5A 9 AJÜ, Balikesir - 191. Filo: F-104G, temporarily deployed to Cumaovassi - 192. Filo: F-104S 2. Taktik Havva Kuvveti (2nd Tactical Air Force) 5 AJÜ, Merzifon - 151. Filo: F-5A/B, temporarily deployed to Cumaovassi - 152. Filo: F-5A/B 7 AJÜ, Erhac - 171. Filo: F-100D - 172. Filo: F-100D 8 AJÜ, Diyarbakir - 182. Filo: F-102A - 184. Filo: RF-5A Havva Ulattyrma Komutanlygy (Tactical Transport Command) 12 AJÜ - 221. Filo: C.160D - 222. Filo: C-130E - 223. Filo: C-47 - 224. Filo: Viscount Havva Egitim Komutanligi (Training Command) 2 AJÜ - 121. Filo: T-33A - 122. Filo: T-37C - 123. Filo: T-41D/T-34A, based at Gaziemir - 124. Filo: T-33A (E)PA1974 110 Pterix Mahis - 347 Mira: F-84F - 348 Mira: RF-84F, based at Larisa - 349 Mira: RF-5A, based at Larisa - 370 Mira: T-33A Mk.III 111 Pterix Mahis - 337 Mira: F-5A/Bs (to be replaced by F-4Es in 1974) - 341 Mira: F-5A/Bs - 343 Mira: F-5A/B 113 Pterix Mahis - 343 Mira: F-5A (deployed there after 20 July 1974) 114 Pterix Mahis - 335 Mira: F-104G - 342 Mira: F/TF-102A 115 Pterix Mahis, Souda Bay - 340 Mira: F-84F - 340/II F-84F (forward deployed at Kastelli) 116 Pterix Mahis - 336 Mira: F-104G 117 Pterix Mahis - 338 Mira: F-4E/F-84F - 339 Mira: F-4E and F-84F (deployed at Souda) If someone needs help I'm here for F-100C/F-102 skins .... Quote
PraetorH Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 Western birds duking it out, F-4 vs F-4, F-102 vs F-102... That is a very interesting idea! I hope it will progress well. Quote
+allenjb42 Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Where are we up to with Greek & Turkish F-16s for SF2? And IRL, are they using the latest versions with the big spine & CFTs? Quote
FrankD Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) allenjb42, Here's the Turkish F-16 inventory from F-16.net: http://www.f-16.net/..._article21.html From the same website, dated from May 2008 but fairly detailed: $45 BILLION MODERNIZATION OF TuAF Turkey has allocated a budget of $150 billion for modernization of its Armed Forces. This sum will be spent over a period of 30 years (which commenced retrospectively in 1997). This budget is exclusive of the yearly military budget which is officially stated as 5.7% of GDP. $45 billion of this has been allocated for the total overhaul of the Turkish Air Force. According to US Navy Sources, under this very ambitious modernization program Turkey intends to acquire 650 Combat Aircraft and 750 Helicopters (Attack, General Purpose, Heavy Lift). See Pages 138 of “TURKEY’S RESPONSE TO THREATS OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION”, December 2001, United States Navy, NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL, Monterey, California, http://www.nps.edu/a...theses/Al01.pdf The 650 combat aircraft include the 230 F-16 CCIP + 30 F-16 Block 50+, 100 F-35 (Firm Order), 52 F-4 2020 Terminator, 238 Unknown Fith Generation Fighter. The Turkish Military establishment is discussing two option: (1) To increase the total number of F-35C being commissioned (2) To join the Eurofighter consortium in Trache 3 According to inside sources the first option is the most favoured by the establishment as Washington has offered licenced production at Turkish Aerospace Industries. Regarding the acquisition of 750 Helicopters: The T-129 (a Turkish development of the Agusta/Westland A-129) has been selected as the Attack platform. 10 firm (40 option) Apache has also been approved. Sikorsky and Turkey are currently negotiating for the co-production of a medium lift general purpose heli. Turkey is also in negotiations with the US for the co-production or off-the shelf procurement of the Chinook Heavy Lift helicopter. See http://www.worldbull...il.php?id=21982. Inventory and Structure of the Turkish Air Force The TuAF currently operates 230 F-16s distributed in 11 squadrons, all F-16s squadrons are AMRAAM/Sidewinder capable, some dedicated ground attack squadrons with LGB,Maverick AGM-65G, LANTIRN pods, one squadron is dedicated for SEAD with HARMs. Structure Ankara Akinci Main Jet Base: 141 Block-40 Fighter 142 Block-30 Fighter 143 Block-30 OCU Merzifon Main Jet Base: 151 Block-50 SEAD 152 Block-50 Fighter Bandirma Main Jet Base: 161 Block-40 LANTIRN 162 Block-40 Fighter Diyarbakir Main Jet Base: 181 Block-40 LANTIRN 182 Block-40 Fighter Balikesir Main Jet Base: 191 Block-50 Ground Attack/Fighter 192 Block-50 Fighter TuAF also currently operates 52 F-4E/2020 Terminators which are dedicated to air-ground with Popeye-1/2, LGB, MAvericks and LITENING-III (these 2020 Terminators can be considered as the "poor-man's" F-15) plus 80 F-4E/RF-4E used as Interceptor and for Recce purposes...The Turkish Air Force approved the further upgrade of a further 48 F-4Es and 18 RF-4E, thus bringing them up to F-4E/2020 standards. Structure Eskisehir Main Jet Base: 111. F-4E/2020 Terminator 112. F-4E Interceptor 113. RF-4E Recce with LOROP pods Malatya Main Jet Base: 171. F-4E/2020 Terminator 172. F-4E Interceptor 173 RF-4E Recce with LOROP pods TuAF also currently operates 7 KC-135R tankers to support these squadrons TRANSPORT FORCE 7 x C-130E Hercules (being extensively modernised with Full Glass Cockpits etc) 6 x C-130B Hercules (with ELINT/SIGINT equipment) 19 x C-160T Transall 50 x CN 235-100M 10 x Airbus A-400M (Firm Order) UNMANNED AERIAL INVENTORY 0 x (20 on order) TIHA MALE Attack/Surveillance (Indigenous UAV similar to US Predator, TIHA-B armed with 4 laser guided missiles) (800 km) 40 x Heron MALE Attack/Surveillance UAV (1000/3300 km) 107 x Harpy Attack UAV (500 km) 2 I x GNAT Surveillance UAV (500 km) HELICOPTER INVENTORY 20 x AS 532UL Cougar Mk1 (14 SAR + 6 CSAR) 81 x Bell UH-1H Iroquois (SAR/ECM/Utility)- To be modernized 45 x UNKNOWN HEAVY LIFT (Negotiations for the co-production of a heavy lift helicopter such as the Chinook still continuing). TRAINING AIRCRAFT INVENTORY 69 x T-38A Talon (received structural upgrade, to be modernized) 61 x Cessna T-37B/C (received structural upgrade) 38 x Aermacchi SF-260D 26 x T-41D Mescalero 0 x KAI KT-1 (40 on order to replace T-37s) Also, currently the development of both Turbo-prop and Turbo-fan engine trainer aircraft are continuing at Turkish Aerospace Industries. It is planned that they will enter service in 2012. TuAF Air Defense Force Long Range/High altitute 72 Nike Hercules(about to be retired Patriot/S-300/S-400- There is currently in negotiations with Russian and US companies for an anti-balistic missile defence shield (It will consist of a minimum of 4 systems). Russia is the favoured as they have offered co-production and tech-transfer. See Russia offers Turkey upgraded, longer-range S-300s Papandreou: Greece is ready to discuss everything with Turkey that doesn't affect its sovereignty P - Turkish Daily News Mar 04, 2000 After the off-the-shelf initial order of 4 systems, Turkey will then commence the development of an indegenous system in conjunction with a foreign partner. There is a requirement of an extra indegenous 8 systems. A next generation Very-High Altitude Anti-Balistic weapons system web- to be co-produced by the Boeing and Havelsan of Turkey team. It will be used by the US, Turkey and NATO. Seehttp://goliath.ecnex...199-2590089_ITM and http://www.boeing.co...080422b_nr.html Medium Range/Altitute 24 I-HAWK-PIP3 launchers with MPQ-64 Sentinel Radars/Konsberg Fire Control Centers Indigenous system in development by ASELSAN of Turkey Low Altitute/Short Range 80 x Rapier Lauchers/37 Blindfire Fire Control radars upgraded to B1X version, new 800 Rapier Mk-2 missiles started to be assembled in Turkey. 32 x Aselsan of Turkey KMS, each carries 4 ready to fire Stingers-RPM and 12.7mm machine gun for close range defence... 35mm/40mm short range AA guns supported by D-XI Radar/FLIR weapon control platforms... http://www.f-16.net/...ic-t-10470.html Scramble is also quoting the same block: http://www.scramble....4/thk/orbat.htm http://www.scramble.nl/tr.htm Edited March 30, 2011 by FrankD Quote
GMagos Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 The critical times for the Greek - Turkish relation were 3 since 1974. July 1974 Cyprus March 1987 Sismik January 1996 Imia It could be a very interesting scenario if these campaigns could be made. I couldn't agree more.These events adds to realism of the campaign and represent three different aircraft generations for each country. Quote
SayethWhaaaa Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Ooh... so is this map going to include space for Egypt, Israel Syria as well, or with that space be off map? It'd be good to strike Israel from Turkey or to hit Libya with a package from Tel Aviv. Quote
+PureBlue Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 The map was released a while ago. Check SF2 Terrains download. part of Egypt and Israel are on the map but not populated and currently there is no plan to do so. Quote
SayethWhaaaa Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Cheers. As for the parts not populated, there's little in this game we can't play around with. Quote
vans1 Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 The critical times for the Greek - Turkish relation were 3 since 1974. July 1974 Cyprus March 1987 Sismik January 1996 Imia It could be a very interesting scenario if these campaigns could be made. Maybe we should also consider a near future (in part fictional) scenario taking place around small islands of the Aegean? Using the f-35 for Turkey, the Casa C-23 (SU-35) for Greece and other older planes for each side? Many of them available in the download area. I think it would be very interesting. Quote
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