Silverbolt 104 Posted May 5, 2011 At first i did not paid attention to the wreckage, those really reseble the Comanche - untill a Brazilian site published it www.aereo.jor.br those images were brough by reuters from one of Pakistain's security force's member few bours after the attack also, it would explain why they were intercepted by Pakistani airforce, even if they were only 100km from its capital and why the commandos did blow the wreckage after the operation. in the site they say it can be an MH-60 modified or a completely new aircraft - which i think is the most plausible theory. do somebody know a stealth transport helicopter? and finally, why cover an helicopter wreckage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557 Posted May 5, 2011 Now this starts to be interesting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Comanche?? not sure, but comanche's rotor is slightly different. more here: http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-photos-multimedia/106883-modified-stealth-helicopter-obl-raid.html Edited May 5, 2011 by Silverbolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted May 5, 2011 Some more conjecture: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557 Posted May 5, 2011 Those are the pics I have found on the internet.. thefirst concept looks a way cooler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Heberth 159 Posted May 5, 2011 Some more conjecture: AMAZING! NICE PIC MAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+KnightWolf45 1,147 Posted May 5, 2011 this a secret dont shout man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted May 5, 2011 AMAZING! NICE PIC MAN but those are merely speculation, the actual design can be a way different than those images. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Soulfreak 6,526 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) for me it looks like a "little" recce- drone or uav. Edited May 5, 2011 by Soulfreak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotarycrazy 4 Posted May 5, 2011 whao intresting, its a shame that the pakistanis ar going to give this to china, for the rigth price of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted May 5, 2011 The Commanche was a program for a scout attack helo and looking at its design it would not have been good for flying in troops... but for shooting the living daylights out of everything in sight... What may have happened is that they have used tech from the program on some Blackhawks to make them stealthy. Also when a Helo is flown Nap of the Earth picking it up on Radar is extremely difficult if not impossible if you are under the curvature of the earth as these guys would be as the route in would have been planned to avoid most Radar systems or at worst to lessen the chances of being picked up by them. The only reliable way to paint a Helo NOE is from above with an AWAC or the helo practically being on top of the Radar site. Tech from failed programs is often recycled to enable other program's to be more effective... like the TSR2 Engines and Concorde. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jimbib 747 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Not my image, but this comparison (see below, from the Military Photos forum thread) definitely shows it uses major Black Hawk mechanical components, and judging by the previous images of the tail rotor assembly, redesigned body work. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kFC_dTlxCxg/TcIQId9_tfI/AAAAAAAABFk/lbTjb-7ssYw/nessie.jpg Edited May 5, 2011 by Jimbib Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CrazyhorseB34 937 Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) The Roswell survivors flew those two helos. Why is it so difficult for people to embrace the fact that the U.S.A. has some cool stuff! Edited May 5, 2011 by CrazyhorseB34 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+ST0RM 145 Posted May 5, 2011 Check this link out. Silent Hawk concept: http://defensetech.org/2011/05/04/what-the-secret-bin-laden-raid-helo-might-look-like/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CrazyhorseB34 937 Posted May 5, 2011 Right on, we got cool stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr.Viper 131 Posted May 5, 2011 Oh, Deus Ex choppers are real now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted May 5, 2011 The conjectural pics that are being spread over the web right now resemble the assault helo in Frontlines Fuel of War.. pretty closely too. Hey, what's the story with that defence tech site? It it only viewable for North Americans? I've never seemed to be able to get access to it here in Oz. Always comes up with an error screen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverbolt 104 Posted May 5, 2011 I've found an news @ Defense News http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6414345&c=ASI&s=AIR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted May 5, 2011 Looks like a modified Blackhawk with stealth fairings. Looks pretty cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark543 0 Posted May 5, 2011 to best of my knowlage my freinds. I think we have juse seen of what i think look like a Remains of the new comachie Helacopter. i see no reasion why they would use it for a mission of just incersion. maby for backup? i dont know. But the bad news is that. now that the pakastanies have seen the wrekage. That means they will use it to their advantage like the chinease when the created the J-20 Lurking Dragon. a direct clone to the F-22 rapator. In my best jugent i think we should retreve what is left of the new Stelth Transport Hilicopter or whats left of it. and send it back to the united states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jimbib 747 Posted May 5, 2011 I think we have juse seen of what i think look like a Remains of the new comachie Helacopter. I assume you meant to say "Comanche" helicopter. If it is a Comanche, where is the fantail? In addition, The RAH-66 is an armed attack and reconnaissance heli, which would have been bugger all use for getting a SEAL team in and out of the target zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotarycrazy 4 Posted May 6, 2011 Rep. Buck Mckeon armed services committee chairman just said in C-span that the helicopter was fully loaded and temperature was 15 degree hotter than planed so the helicopter could not hover so it hit the wall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayethWhaaaa 245 Posted May 6, 2011 That means they will use it to their advantage like the chinease when the created the J-20 Lurking Dragon. a direct clone to the F-22 rapator. Wow, if you think the J-20 is a clone of the F-22, you might want to think about laying off the weed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SkippyBing 8 Posted May 6, 2011 The amusing thing about most of those renders/impressions is that they have the tail rotor down right (because that's the only thing anyone's actually seen) and the rest is a normal Blackhawk with aerials and all sort sticking out all over the place. If it's actually stealthy it's likely to be more like the side on profile drawing with as much as possible shielded/conformal. Reference coming in under the radar, I think a stealthy helicopter would make it easier on the crew, <100 ft on goggles is hard work (although less hard than 200' bizarrely), if you can safely take it up to 500'+ then it's easier which means you're fresher for the actual insertion. A stealth/low observable helicopter should be able to travel further at a 'sensible' height, i.e. it'll blend in with the ground clutter at a higher altitude than a non stealth one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites