OFFbase: The Barmy Automated Squadron Experience for Over Flanders Fields

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

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OFFbase: The Barmy Automated Squadron Experience for Over Flanders Fields

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An immersive role-playing simulation of life between flights for Over Flanders Fields.

 

Note 1: For more information, screenshots, etc., visit the Official Website.

Note 2: Get the full OFFice incomparable campaign engine which features OFFbase along with all supported mods and extra content in a complete package with one easy-to-use installer. This smaller package updates the OFFice software to the latest version, but to get 1.0.8's 'Skin in the Game' custom paint jobs just install the whole thing.

 

Note 3: If you're interested in joining and supporting OFFworld, the multiplayer version in development, send me a PM.

 

- OFFbase features persistent squadron-based play. Take turns flying multiple pilots in a squadron while sharing the same roster--and more. Separate wingmen are assigned and flights split as much as possible. See your other squadron pilots in the duty roster with you! Fly as a rookie pilot in your favorite squadron while taking your long-time veteran out on the occasion you work up the nerve. If your pilot dies, you can start a new pilot to take over for him with the same squadmates and everything, and continue your squadron's story throughout the war.

 

- OFFbase puts you right in the Squadron HQ, where you can visit the Adjutant to manage your career, kick back in Lodgings that you may share with a roommate and write in your journal, go down to the Mess for food or drink and see how your squadmates are doing (and listen to the squadron band in the evenings), head out to the Hangar to check munitions and fly campaign missions, or reminisce over fallen heroes at the squadron memorial. The quality of your squadron's facilities develops over time.

 

- OFFbase implements and expands Bletchley's Pilot Personality Profiles (3P) to give each pilot in the squad individual personality that informs how they behave and relate to each other. Engage in many different types of social encounters, mediated by personality traits. Personalities are composed of unique combinations of character traits, summarized by Attributes that rank characters in the following dimensions: Aerial Skill, Aggression, Charisma, Intelligence, Physicality, and Professionalism. With hundreds of billions of possibilities, the character's you'll meet in OFFbase are complex, distinctive, and completely individual in their behavior.

 

- OFFbase builds on 3P with academic game theory to make social encounters richer, more intuitive, and open to different styles of play. Will you try to out-do other pilots, enhancing your short-run prestige at their expense, or try to build both your reputations through long-run friendship and social support? Your success at playing different strategies depends on the rank, personality, and social skills of your pilot character, as well as who the other player is and what they're trying to achieve. Over multiple encounters you'll come to know how different characters react in different situations, and what strategies work for your character. The result is a natural learning process on both sides.

 

- OFFbase makes complex yet intuitive social encounters possible by giving characters in your squadron artificial intelligence. They remember how you and other pilots have treated them in the past, learn from their mistakes, and form social strategies to pursue their own goals based on their own rank, personality, risk preferences, social skills, and history. Some may try to boost their careers by bullying subordinates to make themselves look better, others may focus on building peer networks, while some may do a bit of both depending on who they like and who they don't and their feelings about their relationships and careers. The procedurally-generated rule-based AI system generates far more complex, dynamic, and unique behavior than traditional systems.

 

- OFFbase features a full dynamic squadron simulation: Non-player pilots have daily encounters with each other, developing their own prestige and goodwill to develop their reputations and earn their own promotions, while periodically going on and returning from leave, even transferring in and out. All this goes on even as you advance or skip time due to weather, injury, whatever. Watch non-player pilots in your squadron share a drink, talk politics, make friends, get in fights--building relationships that affect how their careers develop, and yours.

 

- OFFbase introduces Ground Crew, support officers or enlisted such as the squadron Adjutant, Chief Medical Officer, Chaplain, Munitions Officer, and even the Chief of the Mess Hall. Encounter and build relationships with them as well, which can affect your career, and your life, through gameplay. They may serve as stabilizing forces in dark times, or if a bad fit for a squadron disrupt morale. Encounter them in the Infirmary, Chapel, Hangar, and Mess Hall.

 

- OFFbase introduces Air Crew: Pilots of two-seaters will share quarters with their observer/gunner. You and your fellow officers will encounter them in the Mess and on the Airfield, as they build their own careers.

 

- OFFbase makes completing missions more rewarding, with additional benefits and costs to your career from shooting down enemy aces, friendly fire, pulling a hat trick by shooting down three or more enemy planes, and taking out ground targets and balloons. If a fellow pilot steals your kill, you can chew him out once you're back at HQ and try to take back some of the prestige he earned instead of you; or apologize and give back prestige if you steal someone else's kill. Some mission results may even affect the development of your pilot's personality by earning additional traits.

 

- OFFbase brings additional features to the game such as transfers between squadrons, player input on promotions, funerals for dead pilots, a fully-editable journal built from the flight and claims logs, and tracking of mission results for your squadmates. Yes that's right--what actually happens to your squadmates in the air while they fly beside you matters now, dependent on and influencing the development of their characters. A Frontiersmen also trained in first aid is more likely to make it home after being downed behind enemy lines, a Cowards more likely to surrender, and a Weakling more likely to be permanently maimed by injury--especially if he's on bad terms with the Chief Medical Officer! The detailed injury system tracks dozens of different wounds and maims for you and your squadmates, with more realistic recovery times--and more ways to be disabled and killed. Dealing in the Infirmary is dynamic and can depend on the support of squadmates.

 

- OFFbase accelerates immersion with a built-in mod manager (OFFramp) that automatically orders and activates JSGME mods appropriate to your campaign, if installed. See notes on mods below. This is accomplished through a fully-modable rule-driven scripting engine that supports plugins to the OFFice: OFF Incomplete Campaign Editor system, integrating access to Pilot dossiers, OFF Workshop settings, CFS3Config settings, JSGME mods, and OFFbase gameplay rules. Bletchley's historical ammo loudout rules and a number of other mods included in this distribution are implemented in this system. Modders: see very preliminary info in the OFFice\modrules\ folder.

 

Gameplay:

 

An officer or crewman's Reputation can be built in three different ways: success in the air, Goodwill from higher-ranking officers, and Prestige from socially dominating your peers. Each character has a unique set of Traits, yielding different preferences and skills toward these goals. As your campaign develops, you will observe changes in morale, upgrades to your airfield and lodgings, earn new personality-building traits through promotions and achievements, and take part in the lives and deaths of your dynamic, humanlike squadmates.

 

To further the latter two goals, you will frequently (depending on your traits), Encounter your fellows, as well as witness encounters they have with each other. The social encounter system is based on a continuous iterated prisoner's dilemma game. Both players face a trade-off between short-run prestige from besting their opponent in the encounter and long-run goodwill from cooperating to build friendships. If both players jockey for short-run prestige, the result is negative-sum competition where gain, if any, only comes at the other's expense. If both players seek to build long-term social support to advance their military careers, the game is positive-sum cooperation that can increase both pilots' Goodwill toward each other, providing a daily boost to reputations so long as both players continue or even deepen their friendship.

 

Even more interesting is the myriad cases in-between. You may come on too strong and embarrass someone, or come across as off-puttingly needy. You may also find yourself at the mercy of a vicious bully, or in a parasitic relationship with a high-ranking officer who praises you to superiors only to reflect well on his command while back at the squadron mercilessly putting you in your place in front of the other men. Willingly suck up to superiors if their goodwill seems worth more to your career than the shame, or buck them to defend your prestige at the risk of ill-will.

 

The possibilities are almost endless because non-player characters also have reputations, and adaptively develop their own strategies based on their personalities, social skills, feelings, and memories in order to exploit their own trade-offs between short-run prestige and long-run goodwill. All this sounds complicated, but in practice decisions and their consequences unfold naturally, and the evolution of relationships should be dynamic, intuitive, and fun. Not only is it about learning which pilots are trying to befriend you and which are out to build their careers at your expense--but also teaching AI pilots to cooperate and learning when and when not to exploit their trust.

 

Should your reputation fall to "Disrespected" you're in danger of being transferred to another squadron if you don't turn things around. Lean on your friends for support, though calling in the chips in the short-run can damage friendships in the long run. If you do well and your reputation becomes sufficiently "Honored" you'll be due a promotion to a higher rank and the chance to further develop your personality. Promotions and the new traits they bring cost prestige, so you'll start off at a lower reputation. Not everyone has what it takes to make it at a higher rank--those who climb the ladder too fast may step on too many toes, and end up in another squadron.

 

Your pilot's mood serves as a guide to how he's doing in recent encounters. If he's upset, his reputation's been harmed either through losing prestige or goodwill or both, and he'll have a tougher time cooperating with others. A good mood means recent encounters have been helpful to his reputation, in the short- or long-run or both, and more open to others. You'll get some idea of the mood of others when you encounter them, and the squadron's morale reflects the aggregate mood of its members. Since mood affects behavior, the effects of encounters spill over through social networks. A skilled and patient or stubborn player can have a profound impact on the social development of his squadron, through good times and bad.

 

Different personalities are more naturally suited to building their reputations by some means more than others. No-nonsense skilled-pilot types advance more quickly from flying and successfully completing missions, while smooth-tongued sycophants are more apt to milk the goodwill of superior officers at the cost of prestige, aggressive social animals readily suffer ill-will to dominate more social encounters for that prestige, while introverted loners try to avoid encounters in the first place.

 

Every character will have a unique experience, even with the same squadmates. Your replacement pilot may have a tougher time making friends in a squad deeply mourning your popular former ace--or be just thing to help restore morale after the death of a tyrannical flight leader.

 

Simply put, the game rewards role-playing.

 

The deeper investment in building the career of your pilot and developing relationships with squadmates not only further customizes and enriches the campaign experience, but makes death in the air all the more terrifying, and thus OFF even more fun. Who'll carry your casket to its final resting place? How will your squadron remember him? Play OFFbase and find out!

 

Installation:

 

First make sure JSGME 2.6.0 is installed. This is included and installed automatically in the full OFFice package.

 

Download and run the OFFice exe, and it will automatically extract the OFFice folder into your root OFF installation (usually "C:\ OBDSoftware"). This will also create shortcuts for OFFbase and OFFset (see OFFset.readme.txt) on your desktop and/or start menu, as well as documentation for the OFFice suite and included mods.

 

OFFbase will ask to run at Adminstrator level as this is required by JSGME. OFFbase can elevate the OFF manager, but you should set CFS3.exe (and TrackIR5.exe) to run as Administrator as well.

 

To play OFFbase, simply double click one of the installed shortcuts.

 

Updating:

 

To update OFFbase to a newer version after 0.7.8, just run the new setup exe to upgrade your existing install. The installer will automatically deactivate all JSGME mods for safe updating.

 

OFFbase 0.8.6 and later will notify you if newer versions are available at Combat Ace.

 

 

Mods:

 

Get the full OFFice incomparable campaign engine which features OFFbase along with all supported mods in a complete package in one easy-to-use installer. Many of these mods are further developed and enhanced with powerful new features compared to their old stand-alone counterparts available separately.

 

OFFbase will give you a choice which mission, damage, flight model, sound, music mods and so on in the OFFramp mod manager.

 

 

Usage:

 

You'll no longer launch Over Flanders Fields yourself, OFFbase will do it for you when ready. Instead, launch the OFFbase program from your desktop or Start menu shortcuts or launch the OFFbase.exe program in the OFFice folder manually.

 

Whenever OFFbase has you run the OFF Manager, do just the one task or mission expected then quit OFF to return to OFFbase.

 

OFFbase may ask you to set some settings before allowing you to play. Follow its instructions.

 

You'll be asked to choose a nation and squadron to play your existing pilots. If you need to create a new pilot here, you can launch OFF Manager. Leave OFF when done creating the pilot and the list will update.

 

Make your choice and click the "Play Squadron" button. You'll then be asked to choose a pilot in your squadron. You can compare the current date of the squadron listed in the left pane with the last reported date of your pilot in the middle pane to see how much leave your pilot will receive to sync up. You may also edit and save your pilot's background here.

 

Choose your pilot and click the "Play Pilot" button to begin the OFFbase experience! You'll be asked to choose a personality class for your pilot, then fly a transfer mission to your new airfield to check out the squadron's facilities and people. Follow the prompts, it should be a fairly self-explanatory introduction.

 

Note: Be sure to check ‘Air Start’ for your initial transfer mission!

 

When you're squadron has been toured, you're on your own. Chat with the Adjutant and visit the Mess Hall to learn more about your squadmates. Go to the Hangar to fly campaign missions in OFF, or just do some exploring around the base.

 

OFFbase will automatically set your active pilot for the campaign so you no longer need to manually switch between pilot dossiers in OFF Manager to fly different campaigns.

 

OFFbase sets the Outcomes section of the OFF Workshops Dead Is Dead to offer advanced outcome handling. Most crashes are reported as fatal by OFF, but this just triggers custom crash handling. If your pilot is killed or captured, do not delete him in OFF. Instead, quit OFF to return to OFFbase and resolve his fate. If he does ultimately perish, after the funeral he becomes part of your squadron’s institutional memory.

 

When adding a new pilot to a squadron, be sure to create him at a date prior to your current squadron date to avoid overwriting all of your squadmates.

 

See the OFFbase Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ).

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• Submitter
  Lothar of the Hill People
• Submitted
  10/30/2011
• Category
  OFFice / OFFbase / OFFworld

 

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

Okay, this is the proper thread to leave feedback and discuss this mod. Anyone have any luck with it yet?

[Creaghorn 10]

Okay, this is the proper thread to leave feedback and discuss this mod. Anyone have any luck with it yet?

 

i tried it for two sorties and so far i liked it, as mentioned in the main forum.

some questions i have though. what is the online requirement about? is it for automatic updates?

are you planing to expand this cool feature by adding pictures and a list of your squad etc.?

are there also funerals for killed squadmates, or some things related to major offensives etc.?

 

very well done, sir

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

i tried it for two sorties and so far i liked it, as mentioned in the main forum.

some questions i have though. what is the online requirement about? is it for automatic updates?

are you planing to expand this cool feature by adding pictures and a list of your squad etc.?

are there also funerals for killed squadmates, or some things related to major offensives etc.?

 

very well done, sir

Thanks for the feedback, Creaghorn, good questions.

 

The online requirement is to load the user interface code for the programing language I used, Rebol/alpha. If it's an issue for some people I might try to include the gui code in the install. No automatic updates unfortunately--this would be nice but is low on my priority list.

 

Yes I would like to add pictures and a duty room with a list of your squad. Since the programming language I'm using is an early alpha version itself, there're some issues with the image code I haven't worked out yet.

 

Funerals for killed squadmates is one of the next features I was thinking of adding to help flesh out your relationships and their consequences. This would be a part of a larger project for NPC pilots to have relationships and encounters with each other. Not sure how OFF tracks major offenses and stuff so that's less likely to be added.

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

So far it sounded to me rather like I had to allow access to my computer, which

would be asked too much IMHO?

OFFbase reads your system registry in order to find your OFF installation. It will of course edit your pilot files (that's the point of squad-based play with shared rosters, promotions, transfers, etc) and save its own settings in its own folder to track your pilots and squads.

 

OFFset does a bit more, capable of changing the settings in your system registry, OFF workshop settings, and CSFS config.

 

Neither should do anything to mess up your install or do anything else to your computer. Just back up your pilots and unlimitedpilots.xml on occasion (you should be doing this anyway!). And OFFset can restore all your settings if you do need to reinstall OFF for any other reason.

[Olham 164]

Meanwhile I have tried Lothar's new mod a little bit, and I must say, it is very nice.

It adds the "between the missions"-parts of the pilot's life, which was so funny in

old sims like "Wings of Honour". Only here it is interactive - it will be different

for each pilot - according to the character you chose to play (there are more than

a dozen choices for that).

 

You can go to the mess or to the Adjutant's office, to the CO, or to your quarter.

When you talk to a person, you have again choices, in which direction the talk

goes, and what the outcome will be for you (you may gain more respect or a

better reputation, or the opposite - lots of possible ways again surely).

 

I have only just touched it, but I guess, that Lothar's "OFFbase" will compile the

experiences with you, and will shape a persona, a character from these inter-

actions and talks. You may not always like what you get, but that's like real life

then, isn't it?

 

Lothar wasn't sure, if it would perhaps mix up existing pilots you already have.

Well, in my case, that did not happen. Only that one pilot was used by OFFbase,

and the others remained as they were, and intact (I use Win 7 - 32bit).

 

If you miss life at your homefield between the sorties; or you don't really know

your own pilots too well - then try OFFbase - it could be what you were missing.

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

New version posted, which only needs internet the very first time you run and gives some additional feedback to help you make decisions.

 

To update, just download the newer version and unzip on top of your existing OFFice folder, replacing existing files.

[Herr Prop-Wasche 7]

Lothar,

I clicked on the above link and got a "file not available" message. Can you post a working link?

 

BTW, did you see my conversation with Bletchely about his 3P mod, in which we discussed a couple of additions/revisions? I can't remember the link right off the top of my head, but you may find it interesting. I also really like your additon of funerals to the squadron events.

[Wodin 0]

The lnks don't work and the mod is nowhere to be seen.

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

I just tried it and it worked for me. Try it again, might have been a slight hiccup as the new file had to be approved by a moderator.

[Bletchley 8]

Hello Lothar, I would love to try this but my OFF PC is not connected to the internet :(

 

"The online requirement is to load the user interface code for the programing language I used, Rebol/alpha. If it's an issue for some people I might try to include the gui code in the install"

 

This would be good, if it is possible :)

 

Bletchley

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

Hello Lothar, I would love to try this but my OFF PC is not connected to the internet :(

 

"The online requirement is to load the user interface code for the programing language I used, Rebol/alpha. If it's an issue for some people I might try to include the gui code in the install"

 

This would be good, if it is possible :)

 

Bletchley

You're in luck, Bletchley, I just posted a new version, 0.5.2, which only needs internet connectivity to verify your Combat Ace username when you first run it. You can now play OFFbase offline. If you're offline when you first run the program and it asks you to verify your Combat Ace username, just hit cancel.

[carrick58 23]

I seem to be having trouble with the mod. When installing I get caught in a loop. select Call sign then confirm and back over and over ? ( They show membership in the Combat Ace forum)

[Herr Prop-Wasche 7]

Lothar, please find attached a zip file containing an appendix I put together a while ago listing in detail both the regularly scheduled and the non-regular events that take place in 3P. It may be helpful for you in the future in scripting new events, if they are not already contained in your mod.

3P List of Events.zip

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

I seem to be having trouble with the mod. When installing I get caught in a loop. select Call sign then confirm and back over and over ? ( They show membership in the Combat Ace forum)

Hey carrick58, I just fixed a bug where it was getting stuck if you didn't choose your name from the list in the verify callsign window. Try downloading the new version, though it may take a few minutes for the file to be available.

 

But now that I reread your note I'm not sure that's the problem. So when it shows your membership in the forum in the window that says "Combat Ace Callsigns" on the top, you click on your name and click Accept. It should then return you to the "User Settings" window, and the status bar on the bottom should say "Callsign carrick58 verified." You can now Save your settings. At what point is this going wrong for you?

 

If all else fails, just click Cancel. But it works for me when I use your name.

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

Lothar, please find attached a zip file containing an appendix I put together a while ago listing in detail both the regularly scheduled and the non-regular events that take place in 3P. It may be helpful for you in the future in scripting new events, if they are not already contained in your mod.

Thanks, HPW, that's very helpfully laid out. So far I've managed to implement most of it, except for training missions, meeting the CO, leave, and tours of duty . Also it was easier to do the roommate outlook adjustment when you first meet rather than waiting two days, and promotions are always granted if you have the points to spend (otherwise you could just keep resubmitting until they are).

[Herr Prop-Wasche 7]

Sounds good. I think this will be a very fun addition to P3--and P4!

[Bletchley 8]

"You're in luck, Bletchley, I just posted a new version, 0.5.2, which only needs internet connectivity to verify your Combat Ace username when you first run it. You can now play OFFbase offline. If you're offline when you first run the program and it asks you to verify your Combat Ace username, just hit cancel."

 

Thanks Lothar, I have downloaded the latest version and will give ut a go :)

 

Bletchley

[Creaghorn 10]

i'm very glad to see this mod. especially since it is not as mostly a mod where something which already exists is tweaked a bit, but something completely new. thank you again .

 

can you give a hint what and in which form you are going to expand this mod?

is there a way to see what personality the other pilots have? i'm asking because e.G. on of my mates is said to be a man of god or talks good about my hometown etc. but when i leave this message again i rather quickly forget who the other guy was, if i don't make a note.

i like the encounters, and i think it lot depends on dice roll. are you planning to expand it a bit (i'm asking too much, considering how good the mod is and how much work there must be involved) to be a bit more guybrush threepwoodish in his encounters in monkey island. i mean more conversation involved?

 

what i found out is that the mod is made for scout campaigns. sometimes the encounters therefore don't fit if you make a two seater career (e.G. arguing about a kill because both were shooting when the enemy burst in flames, having wingmen etc.)

are you planning something similar for twoseater careers? maybe even with a second squadron list involved whose names only act as observers and gunners?

 

asking much, i know. but this are more or less also hints and suggestions for further expandings

 

cheers

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

i'm very glad to see this mod. especially since it is not as mostly a mod where something which already exists is tweaked a bit, but something completely new. thank you again .

Glad you like it, Creaghorn!

 

can you give a hint what and in which form you are going to expand this mod?

Now I've been working on giving players more/better feedback and fleshing out squadmates so they have encounters and develop relationships with each other. Ultimately I'd like to make a multiplayer version so we could do like the old DiD campaign and see other players pilots in our shared squadron rosters, etc.

 

is there a way to see what personality the other pilots have? i'm asking because e.G. on of my mates is said to be a man of god or talks good about my hometown etc. but when i leave this message again i rather quickly forget who the other guy was, if i don't make a note.

I've been thinking about this. Right now the only was is to visit the Adjutant often and over time remember, which actually isn't so bad as there aren't that many squadmates. One thing I'm thinking is being able to spend a point of prestige to know another's type going into an encounter. "Oh, I forget who you are, remind me."

 

 

i like the encounters, and i think it lot depends on dice roll. are you planning to expand it a bit (i'm asking too much, considering how good the mod is and how much work there must be involved) to be a bit more guybrush threepwoodish in his encounters in monkey island. i mean more conversation involved?

 

what i found out is that the mod is made for scout campaigns. sometimes the encounters therefore don't fit if you make a two seater career (e.G. arguing about a kill because both were shooting when the enemy burst in flames, having wingmen etc.)

are you planning something similar for twoseater careers? maybe even with a second squadron list involved whose names only act as observers and gunners?

So far I've just implemented the 3P system, which has 36 encounters and a purely random selection of them, and not much actual conversation. Since you're asking I'll see if I can't customize it a bit, restricting the encounters based on the squadron type. Adding a separate list of observers/gunners is a good idea too, I'll think about it and see how it might work.

 

I'm terrible at writing dialogue, especially with the different nations. If at some point someone wanted to help with this we'll see.

 

asking much, i know. but this are more or less also hints and suggestions for further expandings

I appreciate the feedback, Creaghorn, glad I can enhance your OFF experience!

[Bletchley 8]

Amazing, Lothar! I love it! It installed and works brilliantly, even on an offline PC :)

 

Just one observation - I don't think pilot's would have been able to request a promotion! I wonder if this might become an automatic feature of reaching a certain prestige level (maybe slightly randomised, so that the number of prstige points required is not allways exactly the same)? Not sure if this would be easy to impliment, though ?

 

I think this has huge potential to develop further, and I appreciate all the hard work that must have gone into creating it. Thank you :)

 

Bletchley

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

I think this has huge potential to develop further, and I appreciate all the hard work that must have gone into creating it. Thank you :)

Thank you for 3P in the first place, Bletchley, giving purpose to my OFF modding.

 

Just posted version 0.5.4, which should be a real crowd pleaser. Herr Prop-Wasche, I think you'll appreciate what happens when you crash your plane and survive to face a tyrannical leader, bully, or natural enemy as flight leader. Creaghorn, a step in the right direction: at least priests will no longer become drinking buddies or fops engage in boxing with each other. Gave fops something else to do with each other

 

May take a little bit for an admin to approve the upload, so if the download fails wait a bit and try again. To update just unzip over your existing OFFice folder, replacing all files.

 

I'm worried the encounter class bias I introduced in 0.5.4 will improve squadmate relations too much, leading to prestige accumulating too rapidly. If you could let me know if it feels to fast to you after several days and missions of flying, I'd appreciate it.

Edited November 2, 2011 by Lothar of the Hill People

[+Lothar of the Hill People 6]

Just one observation - I don't think pilot's would have been able to request a promotion! I wonder if this might become an automatic feature of reaching a certain prestige level (maybe slightly randomised, so that the number of prstige points required is not allways exactly the same)? Not sure if this would be easy to impliment, though ?

Making the threshold randomized would be a slight pain, easier to just fix it at 150 or something. Now that I think about it, some procedural noise might be the best way to handle it. How 'bout people with longer names have a higher threshold, blame it on the paper pushers.

[Bletchley 8]

Making the threshold randomized would be a slight pain, easier to just fix it at 150 or something. Now that I think about it, some procedural noise might be the best way to handle it. How 'bout people with longer names have a higher threshold, blame it on the paper pushers.

 

Or combine the total with the the date? So that earlier in the war more points are needed for a promotion than later in the war. The survival rate, in my OFF experience, is much better in 1916 than 1918 and high pilot attrition rates would, historically, help to push you up the promotion ladder :)

 

"I'm worried the encounter class bias I introduced in 0.5.4 will improve squadmate relations too much, leading to prestige accumulating too rapidly. If you could let me know if it feels to fast to you after several days and missions of flying, I'd appreciate it."

 

Would it be acceptable to make the points-value of the various events/actions user adjustable, to suit different types of play? As it stands, those who fly with all aids available and with easy workshop settings might find that they gain prestige points very quickly for fast promotion, but those who don't will find they accumulate very slowly for very slow promotion rates. Those who navigate by paper maps, for example, rarely hit all the mission waypoints and therefore only rarely get a Mission Successfull outcome. Being able to adjust the point-value for each action would be a way of balancing the promotion rate for the different types of play.

 

I am having great fun with this, Lothar, and will download your latest version this evening. Thanks again :)

 

Bletchley

[Wodin 0]

Still can't find it. The latest mod I see is the weight mod.

 

Very strange.

 

Oh well looks like it's a no go for me.