Guest rscsjsuso5 Posted December 11, 2011 i bet the drone that Iran captured is fake and made to look like a pinata stuffed with cash and drugs and cigars and Zionists info., made especially for Iran pres. its a pinata bottom line cause the usaf said so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUICIDAL 401 Posted December 11, 2011 It's fake.....check out the inlet screen. RED ARROW: This is very reminiscent of the radar diffuser/mesh grill found on the first generation stealth F-117A Nighthawk. This is a key point as the RQ-170 most likely was designed using rapid prototype efficiencies, commercially available subsystems, and a balance between low observability and risk to national security in mind. This is what I call “expendable stealth.” BLUE ARROW: Although the airframe is generally intact, the leading edge has been scuffed and even perforated in some areas. This is a tell-tail sign of a hard, but flat landing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUICIDAL 401 Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) RED ARROW: Why nobody has taken the high-resolution photo files and put them into Photoshop to blow out the details is beyond me. A huge tell in whether or not this thing is real or a fake would be what lies behind the intake radar diffuser. In this case it appears to be exactly what should be there, a jet motor with possibly some type of radar blocker covering the fan face. If this was a hastily designed mockup I seriously doubt the Iranians, who had full control of what images were released, would have formed such a smooth inlet and actually placed a motor inside. This is possibly the largest piece of evidence found during my analysis, and you have not seen it anywhere else but aviationintel.com! Sometimes it actually pays to be a professional photographer in these matters because you can utilize basic editing tools to bring out details that are not apparent in the images in the state that they are distributed. ----------------------------------------------------- This picture highlights the smooth lines of the specimen, it has well-formed continuous radius edges. When the same picture is filtered, converted to black and white and cropped down we see some sort of seam filler covering something that seems to be designed into the airframe’s leading edge. The black tape is also a mystery but this contoured covering material is there for a reason. Is there a radar array imbedded behind this, similar to the B-2? Or are these possibly antennas for the aircraft’s ESM suite? This is the top of the same picture blown up and heavily filtered. Blue Arrow- The “access panel” and fine details on the spine of the machine do match the fuzzy pictures we have seen of the Sentinel flying out of its home base at Kandahar airfield. These broad lines actually appear to have some dimension to them, very reminiscent of the tape and gap fillers used on the F-117, B-2 and F-22 around access points and radar reflecting edges, although even then they a look a little “drawn on” in this picture. Frankly, from this angle its hard to tell. Orange Arrow- At first I thought this was truly the tell that would determine that this thing is a bogus specimen. Those screw holes and that access plate looks totally drawn on, in fact it looks like they actually drew one line to long and abruptly stopped once they went past the corner. We have all done that when stenciling as kids right? The screw holes look totally fake, like they were just sharpied on the thing to make it look like a functioning machine. At first glance, this evidence really had me convinced that this was a prop of sorts, built in haste by the Iranians to satisfy a propaganda need at home and the world’s hunger for evidence that they actually did have a Sentinel in their grasp. But then I was able to capture the picture below… Blue & Red Arrows- Once again, in this picture you can see that stray line that emanates from the bottom left hand side of the access hatch closest to the intake. But on closer evaluation it is apparent that this is most likely a piece of tape sealer that is come up on that edge. Further, an outline of some degrading tape sealer seems to be viewable along the area where the black “screws” are visible. In other words, it looks like these apparent defects are actually just that, defects, and not “drawn on” to the machine to make it look more realistic and representative of the photos available on the net. There may very well be an operational use for indicating where the panel and it’s screws lie underneath a sealant of some type for future maintenance access. So basically this went from a deal breaker for me to an area in question, but in no means a total disqualifier, as the photos available do not show close enough detail to rule one way or anoth Fuente: http://aviationintel.com/?p=4322 I think the Avtobazar 1L222 Sold by the Russians to Iranians are working. Creating cuts links with the "pilots"` Russia has transferred a number of Kvant 1L222 Avtobaza Electronic Intelligence (ELINT) systems to Iran in October, RIA Novosti news agency announced. Each 1L222 system includes an passive ELINT signals interception system and a jamming module capable of disrupting airborne radars including fire control radars, terrain following radars and ground mapping radars as well as weapon (missile) data links. 1L222 operates over the Ku and X bands (8-18 GHz frequency range) and its effective range is 150 km. It covers 360 degrees hemisphere, monitoring up to 60 targets simultaneously. Edited December 11, 2011 by SUICIDAL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUICIDAL 401 Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) I don't think they'd keep it that color if it was a fake. Photo taken in 2010. You can clearly see the color .... Source http://www.militaryp...d-a-role-change One More Source http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3A088e4448-9e53-492f-8a14-7671361e1743 Edited December 11, 2011 by SUICIDAL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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+Typhoid 231 Posted December 12, 2011 It looks real enough in the video and our guys have said it's real, intact and in the Iranian hands. They're now debating just how it fell, intact, into their hands. I know there are those who think it isn't real, or that crashed fragments were imaged. But our guys are saying it is real. The scenarios are possible but not conclusive just yet. I guess we'll see as time goes on. It sounds to me that the link dropped (failure or jamming) and the self-destruct failed. Somehow/why it appears to have executed a self-landing in the desert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted December 12, 2011 Seem to remember an unmanned F-106A perform a similar landing many years ago in the snow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted December 13, 2011 And a MiG-23 in Belgium I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUICIDAL 401 Posted December 13, 2011 The story of 106 is known, there are several more like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexx_Luthor 57 Posted December 13, 2011 Nightwatch 12 Dec.:: Comment: The Iranians will be quick to disseminate any insights they developed in downing a US reconnaissance drone. ~ http://www.kforcegov.com/Services/IS/NightWatch/NightWatch_11000245.aspx --- That ADC F-106 was manned, until it wasn't. Funny story here to see for those who haven't yet ~> http://www.f-106deltadart.com/71fis_PilotlessLanding_580787.htm And a PVO Su-9, pilot bailed and either the plane ran out of fuel -- or the engine had failed -- I forgot I'll have to lookit up -- and softly landed on the belly tanks in a field. And that plane was a rather high wingloaded tailed delta. The tanks were a loss, but the plane was put back on the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,356 Posted December 13, 2011 I think it is real, no fake. Radio news said, that the iranians are negociating with the russians to offer them the possibility to get access to the drone. No good news for the USA. What if Teheran will ask China too? The US government is saying, that they want to get back this drone. Thats a proof that there is really one lost. The iranians say, they have the drone and now the US government says, that they are thinking about a special forces raid to get back the drone or destroy it. If the showed drone would be a fake, the USA would act different. My 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUICIDAL 401 Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 12/13/11 9:59 AM EST Seychelles drone crash under investigation NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — U.S. officials say an American military drone has crashed at an airport on the island nation of Seychelles. The U.S. Embassy in Mauritius said the U.S. Air Force MQ-9 Reaper drone was not armed and that the crash on Tuesday morning caused no injuries. It said that the airport's runaway has reopened for normal traffic. The U.S. military and the civilian aviation authority of Seychelles are coordinating to remove the debris of the drone. The U.S. has used drones from the Seychelles to target al-Qaida linked militants in Somalia.The cause of the crash is under investigation Edited December 13, 2011 by SUICIDAL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr.Viper 131 Posted January 17, 2012 Now look what you did. The Iranians are going to start mass production of toy drones. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4176730,00.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexx_Luthor 57 Posted January 20, 2012 lol Viper good find. The report Tuesday said the toy model of the RQ-170 Sentinel stealth drone will be sent to the White House in response to a formal request... ...State radio said the model will be one eightieth the size of the original aircraft. ~ http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4176730,00.html Has Iran developed an injection mold capability? Or just vacuform? Could the oddball 1/80 scale be a deliberate provocation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotarycrazy 4 Posted January 27, 2012 lol Viper good find. Has Iran developed an injection mold capability? Or just vacuform? Could the oddball 1/80 scale be a deliberate provocation? I say we bomb the factory before its operational Share this post Link to post Share on other sites