NS13Jarhead 6 Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Can we get any more Arcade-y? I guess that's why they dropped the word "Simulator" from the title. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_sD-7_woL9I Edited January 9, 2012 by NS13Jarhead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+JonathanRL 974 Posted January 9, 2012 "Specially designed for people flying with mouse and key...." I just lost my interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted January 9, 2012 Interest I didn't have any since I saw it and definitely don't have it now... damn shame the games get dumber... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted January 9, 2012 But... but... it's free to play. And besides you get Hawaii to explore. Exiting, isn't it? No TrackIr support, but expect to have Kinect support, that way you can enjoy with your all family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hhf 0 Posted January 9, 2012 But... but... it's free to play. And besides you get Hawaii to explore. Exiting, isn't it? No TrackIr support, but expect to have Kinect support, that way you can enjoy with your all family. Still Arcade game. I think there are many people like me out there always looking for serious simulator games. The only thing MS had to do, to take the FSX code, put on it a well tuned graphical update and continously add some new features or fix bugs. And if they still wan't to go arcade: it's still big mama Microsoft. How hard would it be to take some developer and place that arcade version beside the serious one on the market. That won't cost MS not that much and they would see, that the FSX 2.0+ will sell better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted January 9, 2012 I was being sarcastic, in you case you didn't notice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NS13Jarhead 6 Posted January 9, 2012 I was being sarcastic, in you case you didn't notice. I see the confusion. You forgot to put the <sarc> tag in your response. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAKO69 186 Posted January 10, 2012 Flight simers are a dying breed, so if there is little demand why would they spend millions to make a game where they may not get a return in profit. The console game systems are what all the big game co. are catering to. Look at IL2 on XBOX/PS3. I think if game developers wanted to they could make a cool sim for consoles even have CH type stick & hotas, track IR, and additional switch/mfd pads. I'm afraid this will never happen either. I still use Microsoft 2000, and FSX on my older machine along with Jane's WWII, F-18, F-15, IAF, USAF, Falcon 4.0, Lock ON, IL2w/PAC Fighters, and Wings Over Legacy series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted January 10, 2012 What a pile of s**te! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tranquillo 10 Posted January 10, 2012 What a pile of s**te! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellshade 110 Posted January 10, 2012 I'm impressed. I didn't think any series could go backwards that far, that fast. That explains the free to play model though. Hellshade 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) I have spent way too much time posting about Flight at SimHQ over the last few days, so I'll keep this short. Beta testers can't say much due to the NDA, but folks at SHQ have said that the game and FM (just like every other version of MSFS, even FSX!) are scalable. They have hinted that at higher realism settings, the FM feels no worse (if not better than) FSX. The cockpits are still clickable. I could go into FSX right now, turn the realism down, and then do all the ridiculous stuff you see the Flight trailer. A lot of the trailers and videos seem to focus on the "arcade" possibilities of the game, but that doesn't mean the for simulator-ish aspects aren't still there as well. Any game or sim (even DCS A-10C) can be played with arcade settings and then if you wanted to you would see the same ridiculous stuff you see in the MS flight trailers. FSX had missions with challenges that used waypoint markers and bubbles on the screen to aid in the mission, but we still all consider FSX a sim, so their presence in MS Flight don't necessarily indicate that that it can't be flown as a sim. So, I will reserve judgement until I actually have a chance to try it. Edited January 10, 2012 by malibu43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFM 18 Posted January 10, 2012 I'm a beta tester. I can't comment on anything but I'll just say I'm amused at what people "know." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted January 11, 2012 Well, I just registered for the Beta (don't know if it's too late or not) so I can just see for myself. Then I can just sit back and laugh at these discussions (for what reason specifically, I'm not sure. But I'm sure I'll be able to laugh one way or the other! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NS13Jarhead 6 Posted January 11, 2012 I'm a beta tester. I can't comment on anything but I'll just say I'm amused at what people "know." It might be a good game. It might be playable on mouse/keyboard, game controller, or HOTAS. It might be scalable to all skill levels. But based on the video alone (which is the first time I even heard of the product), it appears to be designed as arcade flyer. If it's going the arcade route, I'd have been happier with a reboot of the Crimson Skies franchise. However, if it's going to be able to be a serious flight sim, WHERE ARE MY MACHINE GUNS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFM 18 Posted January 13, 2012 Everything "might be" anything. It's like "may or may not," which the media uses so much. "A plane crashed in the mountains and officials indicate the cause may or may not be linked to terrorism." No sh*t, Sherlock. Again, I'm not saying one way or the other, but my amusement remains. Not necessarily at you, Jarhead, but at flight simmers in general. Would love to explain why but I better wait until the NDA lapses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NS13Jarhead 6 Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) JFM, I'm gusssing/hoping that Flight will be much better than the promotional videos let on. Unfortunately, the marketing department is playing to the masses raised on Nintendo & X-Box, not to the tiny fraction of folks who search for realism and immersion. But that is where the money is. I've truly enjoyed many of MS's combat flying games (especially the previously mentioned Crimson Skies), but I've never really caught the bug for the ones without guns. Occupational hazard, I suppose. Edited January 13, 2012 by NS13Jarhead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewie 7 Posted January 14, 2012 Sounds pretty typical for MS I think CFS3 and OFF still win for offline combat flight, but I also like SDOE. But here lately I've also been flying FlightGear and I've come to love plain ol' vanilla, non combat general aviation, flying onlinewith a group of like minded barmy sods. And their helicopters are not bad. I'm getting pretty good at flying helis. It's also a plus that I can add my own aircraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted January 14, 2012 For me..it's not about MS Flight...it's about 3rd Party support. All MS products are pretty awful when they are first released...and then the people who actually KNOW what the community wants, get to work..and transform the MS product. So, for me..it's all about who else will support it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von Paulus 8 Posted January 14, 2012 For me..it's not about MS Flight...it's about 3rd Party support. All MS products are pretty awful when they are first released...and then the people who actually KNOW what the community wants, get to work..and transform the MS product. So, for me..it's all about who else will support it http://forum.avsim.net/topic/358603-no-3rd-party-content-in-flight/page__p__2212007#entry2212007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted January 14, 2012 http://forum.avsim.net/topic/358603-no-3rd-party-content-in-flight/page__p__2212007#entry2212007 Well, that about sums it up then...MS Flight can get stuffed...FSX is all I need anyhow...so i dont care if it sinks or swims Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Well, I just registered for the Beta (don't know if it's too late or not) so I can just see for myself. Then I can just sit back and laugh at these discussions (for what reason specifically, I'm not sure. But I'm sure I'll be able to laugh one way or the other! ) Apparently it was not too late to register for the beta... Edited January 20, 2012 by malibu43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites