Adding SAMS trough Mission editor?

[Stratos]

Is there any way I can add a "static" SAM like SA-6 or SA-3 using the in-game mission editor? A SAM that can track me and shoot me down.

 

Is possible?

[Fubar512]

It is possible, but seldom works out well, as you must place the battery of launchers and their SAM radar.  You're much better off copying the offsets from amother SAM site, and then using that as a guide, place the entire battery by hand on your terrain-of-choice. 

 

A known issue: if you hard code the SAM-type (as opposed to letting the system randomly choose), the SAM radar(s) for the hard-coded battery will go into stealth mode, though this doesn't effect the AI at all. In other words, you won't see it on the RWR.

[Stratos]

Interesting! Thanks fr explaining it!

[macelena]

It would be great if the ME had some feature to place SAM sites like "SA-6" and you get the proper radar, the launchers and the close range AAA in a simmilar way to naval fleets

[jeanba]

 

A known issue: if you hard code the SAM-type (as opposed to letting the system randomly choose), the SAM radar(s) for the hard-coded battery will go into stealth mode, though this doesn't effect the AI at all. In other words, you won't see it on the RWR.

No problem, we have our texan friend : "SAM LAUNCH !!!!"

[+EMCON360]

Hard Code Sam Sites Work In Progress.

[TargetArea470]
Name=Budejovice SAM Site
Position=714570.000000,310032.000000
Radius=1000.000000
ActiveDate=01/01/0001
Location=4
Alignment=ENEMY
Target[001].Type=SAMRadar
Target[001].Offset=0,0
Target[001].Heading=270
Target[001].ActiveDate=01/01/1974
Target[002].Type=SAMLauncher
Target[002].Offset=125,216.5
Target[002].Heading=30
Target[002].ActiveDate=01/01/1974
Target[003].Type=SAMLauncher
Target[003].Offset=250,0
Target[003].Heading=90
Target[003].ActiveDate=01/01/1974
Target[004].Type=SAMLauncher
Target[004].Offset=125,-216.5
Target[004].Heading=150
Target[004].ActiveDate=01/01/1974
Target[005].Type=SAMLauncher
Target[005].Offset=-125,-216.5
Target[005].Heading=210
Target[005].ActiveDate=01/01/1974
Target[006].Type=SAMLauncher
Target[006].Offset=-250,0
Target[006].Heading=270
Target[006].ActiveDate=01/01/1974
Target[007].Type=SAMLauncher
Target[007].Offset=-125,216.5
Target[007].Heading=330
Target[007].ActiveDate=01/01/1974

Automatic Site AI Will Choose SAMRadar SAMLauncher Types Via Date Avail With Network Type Match.

[TargetArea471]
Name=Kluczewo Air Defence Battery
Position=746000.000000,706000.000000
Radius=1000.000000
ActiveDate=01/01/0001
Location=3
Alignment=ENEMY
Target[001].Type=FlatFace
Target[001].Offset=0.00,0.00
Target[001].Heading=270.0
Target[001].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[001].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[002].Type=SA-3LA
Target[002].Offset=-300,0
Target[002].Heading=270.0
Target[002].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[002].InactiveDate=12/12/1967
Target[003].Type=SA-3LA
Target[003].Offset=300,-300
Target[003].Heading=135.0
Target[003].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[003].InactiveDate=12/12/1967
Target[004].Type=SA-3LA
Target[004].Offset=300,300
Target[004].Heading=45.0
Target[004].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[004].InactiveDate=12/12/1967
Target[005].Type=SA-3LB
Target[005].Offset=-300,0
Target[005].Heading=270.0
Target[005].ActiveDate=01/01/1968
Target[005].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[006].Type=SA-3LB
Target[006].Offset=300,-300
Target[006].Heading=135.0
Target[006].ActiveDate=01/01/1968
Target[006].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[007].Type=SA-3LB
Target[007].Offset=300,300
Target[007].Heading=45.0
Target[007].ActiveDate=01/01/1968
Target[007].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[008].Type=af2aaagun_triple
Target[008].Offset=0,300
Target[008].Heading=0.0
Target[009].Type=af2aaagun_triple
Target[009].Offset=0,-300
Target[009].Heading=180.0
Target[010].Type=SON-9_Firecan
Target[010].Offset=150,0
Target[010].Heading=270.0
Target[010].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[010].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[011].Type=PUAZO_S-60
Target[011].Offset=28.335,-294.355
Target[011].Heading=140.0
Target[011].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[011].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[012].Type=PUAZO_S-60
Target[012].Offset=0.166,-309.295
Target[012].Heading=180.0
Target[012].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[012].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[013].Type=PUAZO_S-60
Target[013].Offset=-35.974,-308.589
Target[013].Heading=190.0
Target[013].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[013].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[014].Type=PUAZO_S-60
Target[014].Offset=-28.271,294.560
Target[014].Heading=320.0
Target[014].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[014].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[015].Type=PUAZO_S-60
Target[015].Offset=-0.292,309.354
Target[015].Heading=0.0
Target[015].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[015].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[016].Type=PUAZO_S-60
Target[016].Offset=35.857,308.556
Target[016].Heading=10.0
Target[016].ActiveDate=01/01/1961
Target[016].InactiveDate=12/12/2000

Type Site With Hard Code AAA Support.

SA-3 Types Are SAMLauncher With SAMRadar Network Type Match.

SON-9_Firecan With PUAZO_S-60 Is Hard Coded.

SON-9_Firecan

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ServiceStartYear=1961
ServiceEndYear=2001
GroundObjectRole=COMMAND
Availability=VERY_COMMON
Exported=TRUE
ExportStartYear=1961
ExportEndYear=2001
ExportAvailability=VERY_COMMON

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DamagedModel=
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DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
EmptyMass=36000.00
Component[001]=Body

[sound]
EngineSoundName=TruckLoop
MovementSoundName=

[DetectSystem]
TargetType=AIR
RadarSearchTime=6.0
RadarSearchRange=80000.0
RadarSearchStrength=80
RadarTrackTime=12.0
RadarTrackRange=35000.0
RadarTrackStrength=75
RadarPosition=0.0,0.0,2.30
RadarMinimumRange=600.0
RadarMinimumAlt=1000.0
RadarSearchFreq=2.4
RadarTrackFreq=2.8
DataLink=TRUE
OpticalSight=TRUE
NightSight=TRUE
VisualRange=2000.0
ViewportPosition=0.0,0.0,2.30
NetworkType=PUAZO
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RadarCrossSection=100

[body]
ModelNodeName=RadarCab
MaxExtentPosition= 1.45, 3.06, 3.16
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HasArmor=FALSE
SystemName[001]=Radar
SystemName[002]=Engine
DetachNode[001]=RadarMast
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[Radar]
SystemType=RADAR
YawModelNodeName=RadarMast
PitchModelNodeName=RadarDish
MaxExtentPosition= 1.50, 1.50, 3.75
MinExtentPosition=-1.50,-1.50, 3.17
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RadarType=SEARCH_AND_TRACK
PitchAngleRate=20.0
MinPitch=0.0
MaxPitch=20.0
YawAngleRate=42.0
YawLimited=FALSE

[Engine]
SystemType=ENGINE
EngineSoundName=TruckLoop

PUAZO_S-60

[MissionData]
NationName=SOVIET
ServiceStartYear=1961
ServiceEndYear=2001
GroundObjectRole=ARTILLERY
Availability=VERY_COMMON
Exported=TRUE
ExportStartYear=1961
ExportEndYear=2001
ExportAvailability=VERY_COMMON

[GroundObjectData]
DamagedModel=
DestroyedModel=Crater.LOD
DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
EmptyMass=950.00
Component[001]=Body

[DetectSystem]
TargetType=AIR
RadarSearchTime=6.0
RadarSearchRange=35000.0
RadarSearchStrength=80
RadarTrackTime=12.0
RadarTrackRange=15000.0
RadarTrackStrength=75
RadarPosition=0.0,0.0,2.30
RadarMinimumRange=500.0
RadarMinimumAlt=50.0
SearchFreq=2.4
TrackFreq=2.8
DataLink=TRUE
OpticalSight=TRUE
NightSight=TRUE
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VisualMinimumAlt=500.0
VisualSearchTime=12.0
ViewportPosition=0.0,0.0,2.30
NetworkType=PUAZO
MaxVisibleDistance=5000.0
RadarCrossSection=5

[WeaponSystem]
TargetType=AIR
GunRange=5500.0
PitchAngleRate=12
MaxPitch=89.0
MinPitch=30.0
DefaultPitchAngle=60
YawLimited=FALSE
YawAngleRate=20
DefaultYawAngle=0
ReloadGunAtAngle=FALSE
GunRecoil=20
GunMinAltitude=250.0
GunMaxAltitude=4000.0
GunStabilization=TRUE
GunRadarTracking=TRUE
RangeFinder=6
BallisticComputer=6
YawModelNodeName=Swivel
PitchModelNodeName=Gun

[MovementSystem]

[body]
ModelNodeName=Base
EffectSize=1.0
MaxExtentPosition= 0.86, 0.86, 1.48
MinExtentPosition=-0.86,-0.86, 0.00
HasArmor=FALSE
SystemName[001]=GunBarrel1
SystemName[002]=GunBarrel2
DetachNode[001]=Left_Ammo_Box
DetachNode[002]=Right_Ammo_Box
DetachNode[003]=Seat
DetachNode[004]=Elevation_Wheel
DetachNode[005]=Swivel_Wheel

[GunBarrel1]
SystemType=GUN
GunTypeName=57MM_S68
MuzzlePosition=0.0,4.53,1.5
MaxAmmo=1000
BurstAmount=6
TracerLoading=2
EjectShells=TRUE

[GunBarrel2]
SystemType=GUN
GunTypeName=57MM_S68T
MuzzlePosition=0.0,4.53,1.5
MaxAmmo=1000
BurstAmount=6
TracerLoading=4
EjectShells=TRUE

Terrain Types INI Listing

[TargetType276]
Name=SON-9_Firecan
FullName=SON-9 FireCan FC Radar
TargetType=MISC
ActiveYear=1961
InactiveYear=2001
TargetValue=75
UseGroundObject=TRUE
GroundObjectType=SON-9_Firecan
RepairRate=0.555
StartDetectChance=80
StartIdentifiedChance=20
IncreaseDetectChanceKey=10
MaxVisibleDist=8000.0
DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
DestroyedModel=Radar_Destroyed.LOD
SecondaryEffect=
SecondaryChance=0

[TargetType277]
Name=PUAZO_S-60
FullName=PUAZO S-60 AAA
TargetType=MISC
ActiveYear=1961
InactiveYear=2001
TargetValue=50
UseGroundObject=TRUE
GroundObjectType=PUAZO_S-60
RepairRate=3.22
StartDetectChance=50
StartIdentifiedChance=10
IncreaseDetectChanceKey=10
MaxVisibleDist=8000.0
DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
DestroyedModel=Crater.LOD
SecondaryEffect=
SecondaryChance=0

Note Use Of ARTILLERY And COMMAND Types To Prevent Game AI Placement

[TargetArea505]
Name=Grossenhain Air Division Facility
Position=667992.000000,530000.000000
Radius=1000.000000
ActiveDate=01/01/0001
Location=2
Alignment=ENEMY
Target[001].Type=ground_platte2
Target[001].Offset=0.00,0.00
Target[001].Heading=180.0
Target[002].Type=SOVHAS
Target[002].Offset=18.691,55.648
Target[002].Heading=270.0
Target[003].Type=PVO_STRANY_EW
Target[003].Offset=127.541,48.648
Target[003].Heading=270.0
Target[003].ActiveDate=01/01/1959
Target[004].Type=FA_COMM_CTR
Target[004].Offset=103.514,181.612
Target[004].Heading=90.0
Target[004].ActiveDate=01/01/1959
Target[005].Type=GasStationH1
Target[005].Offset=55.122,171.170
Target[005].Heading=270.0
Target[006].Type=OfficeOneBuilding
Target[006].Offset=153.421,181.629
Target[006].Heading=0.0
Target[007].Type=satantenne
Target[007].Offset=103.436,118.723
Target[007].Heading=0.0
Target[008].Type=Concrete_Vbunk
Target[008].Offset=30.356,115.677
Target[008].Heading=0.0
Target[009].Type=Concrete_Vbunk
Target[009].Offset=51.699,115.677
Target[009].Heading=0.0
Target[010].Type=Faun6x4
Target[010].Offset=30.356,122.687
Target[010].Heading=0.0
Target[011].Type=Faun6x4_2
Target[011].Offset=51.699,122.687
Target[011].Heading=0.0
Target[012].Type=DworzecPKS
Target[012].Offset=155.191,119.805
Target[012].Heading=90.0
Target[013].Type=HelipadF
Target[013].Offset=53.358,-7.533
Target[013].Heading=0.0
Target[014].Type=Mi-8_Hip_Static
Target[014].Offset=53.358,-7.533
Target[014].Heading=330.0
Target[014].ActiveDate=01/01/1967
Target[015].Type=Sidenet
Target[015].Offset=-46.490,-6.514
Target[015].Heading=270.0
Target[015].ActiveDate=01/01/1959
Target[015].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[016].Type=Spoonrest
Target[016].Offset=-21.318,219.225
Target[016].Heading=270.0
Target[016].ActiveDate=01/01/1959
Target[016].InactiveDate=12/12/2000
Target[017].Type=zil-157_SA1_Trailer
Target[017].Offset=-21.021,42.712
Target[017].Heading=270.0
Target[017].ActiveDate=01/01/1954
Target[017].InactiveDate=12/12/1963
Target[018].Type=zil-157_SA1_Trailer
Target[018].Offset=-21.021,57.712
Target[018].Heading=270.0
Target[018].ActiveDate=01/01/1954
Target[018].InactiveDate=12/12/1963
Target[019].Type=zil-157_SA1_Trailer
Target[019].Offset=-21.021,77.712
Target[019].Heading=270.0
Target[019].ActiveDate=01/01/1954
Target[019].InactiveDate=12/12/1963
Target[020].Type=zil-157_SA1_Trailer
Target[020].Offset=-21.021,92.712
Target[020].Heading=270.0
Target[020].ActiveDate=01/01/1954
Target[020].InactiveDate=12/12/1963
Target[021].Type=SquarePair
Target[021].Offset=-46.146,144.288
Target[021].Heading=270.0
Target[021].ActiveDate=01/01/1964
Target[021].InactiveDate=12/12/1979
Target[022].Type=SA-5AL
Target[022].Offset=-21.021,42.712
Target[022].Heading=270.0
Target[022].ActiveDate=01/01/1964
Target[022].InactiveDate=12/12/1974
Target[023].Type=SA-5AL
Target[023].Offset=-21.021,57.712
Target[023].Heading=270.0
Target[023].ActiveDate=01/01/1964
Target[023].InactiveDate=12/12/1974
Target[024].Type=SA-5AL
Target[024].Offset=-21.021,77.712
Target[024].Heading=270.0
Target[024].ActiveDate=01/01/1964
Target[024].InactiveDate=12/12/1974
Target[025].Type=SA-5AL
Target[025].Offset=-21.021,92.712
Target[025].Heading=270.0
Target[025].ActiveDate=01/01/1964
Target[025].InactiveDate=12/12/1974
Target[026].Type=SA-5BL
Target[026].Offset=-21.021,42.712
Target[026].Heading=270.0
Target[026].ActiveDate=01/01/1975
Target[026].InactiveDate=12/12/1979
Target[027].Type=SA-5BL
Target[027].Offset=-21.021,57.712
Target[027].Heading=270.0
Target[027].ActiveDate=01/01/1975
Target[027].InactiveDate=12/12/1979
Target[028].Type=SA-5BL
Target[028].Offset=-21.021,77.712
Target[028].Heading=270.0
Target[028].ActiveDate=01/01/1975
Target[028].InactiveDate=12/12/1979
Target[029].Type=SA-5BL
Target[029].Offset=-21.021,92.712
Target[029].Heading=270.0
Target[029].ActiveDate=01/01/1975
Target[029].InactiveDate=12/12/1979
Target[030].Type=Flap_Lid
Target[030].Offset=-46.146,144.288
Target[030].Heading=270.0
Target[030].ActiveDate=01/01/1980
Target[030].InactiveDate=12/12/2020
Target[031].Type=5P85D
Target[031].Offset=-21.021,42.712
Target[031].Heading=270.0
Target[031].ActiveDate=01/01/1980
Target[031].InactiveDate=12/12/2020
Target[032].Type=5P85D
Target[032].Offset=-21.021,57.712
Target[032].Heading=270.0
Target[032].ActiveDate=01/01/1980
Target[032].InactiveDate=12/12/2020
Target[033].Type=5P85D
Target[033].Offset=-21.021,77.712
Target[033].Heading=270.0
Target[033].ActiveDate=01/01/1980
Target[033].InactiveDate=12/12/2020
Target[034].Type=5P85D
Target[034].Offset=-21.021,92.712
Target[034].Heading=270.0
Target[034].ActiveDate=01/01/1980
Target[034].InactiveDate=12/12/2020

Type Site With Hard Code SAM Support.

Flap_Lid

[MissionData]
NationName=SOVIET
ServiceStartYear=1980
ServiceEndYear=2020
GroundObjectRole=COMMAND
Availability=COMMON
Exported=TRUE
ExportStartYear=1992
ExportAvailability=COMMON

[GroundObjectData]
DamagedModel=
DestroyedModel=Truck_destroyed.LOD
DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
EmptyMass=36000.00
Component[001]=Chassis
Component[002]=Turret

[sound]
EngineSoundName=Radar_Hue
MovementSoundName=

[DetectSystem]
TargetType=AIR
RadarSearchTime=2.5
RadarSearchRange=200000.0
RadarSearchStrength=240
RadarTrackTime=5.0
RadarTrackRange=150000.0
RadarTrackStrength=280.0
RadarPosition=0.0,0.0,8.0
RadarMinimumRange=300.0
RadarMaximumAlt=33000.0
RadarMinimumAlt=23.0
SearchFreq=6.7
TrackFreq=12.0
;GuidanceFreq=
DataLink=TRUE
;NetworkType=
OpticalSight=TRUE
NightSight=TRUE
VisualSearchTime=2.5
VisualRange=150000.0
VisualMinimumAlt=23.0
ViewportPosition=0.0,0.0,2.30
MaxVisibleDistance=5500.0
RadarCrossSection=20

[Chassis]
ModelNodeName=Chassis
MaxExtentPosition= 1.36, 2.70, 2.06
MinExtentPosition=-1.36,-2.03, 0.00
HasArmor=TRUE
ArmorMaterial=STEEL
Armor[FRONT].Thickness=20
Armor

.Thickness=20

Armor

.Thickness=20

Armor[REAR].Thickness=20
Armor[TOP].Thickness=10
Armor[bOTTOM].Thickness=6
SystemName[001]=Engine

[Engine]
SystemType=ENGINE
EngineSoundName=Radar_Hue
MaxExtentPosition= 0.88, 2.70, 1.22
MinExtentPosition=-0.88, 1.27, 0.37

[Turret]
ModelNodeName=Chassis
MaxExtentPosition=
MinExtentPosition=
HasArmor=TRUE
ArmorMaterial=STEEL
Armor[FRONT].Thickness=20
Armor

.Thickness=20
Armor

.Thickness=20
Armor[REAR].Thickness=20
Armor[TOP].Thickness=10
Armor[bOTTOM].Thickness=6
SystemName[001]=Radar1
SystemName[002]=Radar2

[Radar1]
SystemType=RADAR
YawModelNodeName=turret
HasArmor=FALSE
RadarSearchTime=5.0
RadarTrackTime=5.0
RadarType=SEARCH_AND_TRACK

[Radar2]
SystemType=RADAR
PitchModelNodeName=array
RadarTrackTime=5.0
RadarType=HEIGHT_FINDER

5P85D

[MissionData]
NationName=SOVIET
ServiceStartYear=1980
ServiceEndYear=2020
GroundObjectRole=ARTILLERY
Availability=COMMON
Exported=TRUE
ExportStartYear=1992
ExportEndYear=2020
ExportAvailability=COMMON

[GroundObjectData]
DamagedModel=
DestroyedModel=Truck_destroyed.LOD
DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
EmptyMass=19000.00
Component[001]=Chassis
Component[002]=Launcher

[sound]
EngineSoundName=TruckLoop
MovementSoundName=

[DetectSystem]
TargetType=AIR
RadarSearchTime=2.5
RadarSearchRange=200000.0
RadarSearchStrength=240
RadarTrackTime=5.0
RadarTrackRange=150000.0
RadarTrackStrength=280.0
RadarPosition=0.0,0.0,8.0
RadarMinimumRange=300.0
RadarMaximumAlt=33000.0
RadarMinimumAlt=23.0
SearchFreq=6.7
TrackFreq=12.0
;GuidanceFreq=
DataLink=TRUE
;NetworkType=
OpticalSight=TRUE
NightSight=TRUE
VisualSearchTime=2.5
VisualRange=150000.0
VisualMinimumAlt=23.0
ViewportPosition=0.0,0.0,2.30
MaxVisibleDistance=5500.0
RadarCrossSection=20

[WeaponSystem]
TargetType=AIR
MissileRange=149000.000000
MinMissileRange=2700.000000
PitchLimited=TRUE
PitchAngleRate=0
MaxPitch=88
MinPitch=88
DefaultPitchAngle=88
YawAngleRate=0
YawLimited=
MinYaw=
MaxYaw=
DefaultYawAngle=0
MissileLaunchTime=40.0
MissileFireChance=5
YawModelNodeName=
PitchModelNodeName=

[MovementSystem]
MaxRoadSpeed=15.33
MaxOffRoadSpeed=6.4
PowerAvailable=2150.0
MaxTurnRate=16.0
MaxDeceleration=5.0
SuspensionConstant=14.0
MovementEmitterName=TrackedVehicleDustEmitter
MovementEmitterPosition=0.0,-1.11,0.50

[Chassis]
ModelNodeName=chassis
MaxExtentPosition= 1.36, 2.70, 2.06
MinExtentPosition=-1.36,-2.03, 0.00
HasArmor=TRUE
ArmorMaterial=STEEL
Armor[FRONT].Thickness=20
Armor

.Thickness=20
Armor

.Thickness=20
Armor[REAR].Thickness=20
Armor[TOP].Thickness=10
Armor[bOTTOM].Thickness=6
SystemName[001]=Engine
SystemName[002]=Radar1
SystemName[003]=Radar2

[Engine]
SystemType=ENGINE
EngineSoundName=TruckLoop
MaxExtentPosition= 0.88, 2.70, 1.22
MinExtentPosition=-0.88, 1.27, 0.37

[Radar1]
SystemType=RADAR
HasArmor=FALSE
RadarSearchTime=2.5
RadarTrackTime=5.0
RadarType=SEARCH_AND_TRACK

[Radar2]
SystemType=RADAR
RadarTrackTime=5.0
RadarType=HEIGHT_FINDER

[Launcher]
ModelNodeName=Launcher
MaxExtentPosition= 0.62,4.40,6.15
MinExtentPosition=-0.9,4.40,5.4
HasArmor=FALSE
SystemName[001]=LauncherTube01
SystemName[002]=LauncherTube02
SystemName[003]=LauncherTube03
SystemName[004]=LauncherTube04

[LauncherTube01]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=1
WeaponTypeName=SA_10B_Grumble_Missile
WeaponPosition=-0.90,4.40,5.4
ShowMissile=FALSE
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

[LauncherTube02]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=2
WeaponTypeName=SA_10B_Grumble_Missile
WeaponPosition=0.90,4.40,5.4
ShowMissile=FALSE
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

[LauncherTube03]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=3
WeaponTypeName=SA_10B_Grumble_Missile
WeaponPosition=-0.62,4.40,6.15
ShowMissile=FALSE
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

[LauncherTube04]
SystemType=MISSILE
MissileID=4
WeaponTypeName=SA_10B_Grumble_Missile
WeaponPosition=0.62,4.40,6.15
ShowMissile=FALSE
IndependentPitchMovement=FALSE

Terrain Types INI Listing

[TargetType284]
Name=Flap_Lid
FullName=30N6E Flap Lid Radar
TargetType=MISC
ActiveYear=1980
InactiveYear=2020
TargetValue=200
UseGroundObject=TRUE
GroundObjectType=Flap_Lid
RepairRate=0.555
StartDetectChance=80
StartIdentifiedChance=20
IncreaseDetectChanceKey=10
MaxVisibleDist=5500.0
DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
DestroyedModel=Truck_destroyed.LOD
SecondaryEffect=
SecondaryChance=0

[TargetType285]
Name=5P85D
FullName=5P85D TEL S-300P SAM Launcher
TargetType=MISC
ActiveYear=1980
InactiveYear=2020
TargetValue=100
UseGroundObject=TRUE
GroundObjectType=5P85D
RepairRate=0.555
StartDetectChance=20
StartIdentifiedChance=0
IncreaseDetectChanceKey=0
MaxVisibleDist=5500.0
DestroyedEffect=VehicleFireEffect
DestroyedModel=Truck_destroyed.LOD
SecondaryEffect=
SecondaryChance=0

Note Use Of ARTILLERY And COMMAND Types To Prevent Game AI Placement

Note Suspend Network Type Or Missiles Will Not Fire.

Note MissileFireChance=5 To Prevent Salvo Launches.

Special Note Automatic Sites Will Use Full Available Inventory/Game AI Is Locked In But Can Create New-
Defined Sites With New Types.To Avoid Game AI Conflicts SA-5/SA-10 Batteries Will Be Created As Artillery-
Types With Individual Guidance Systems IE GroundObjectRole=ARTILLERY/TargetType=MISC Missile Guidance-
Radar Will Be Created As Command Types IE GroundObjectRole=COMMAND/TargetType=MISC Special Note-
DataLink=TRUE Remains But NetworkType= Will Be Suspended For Air Artillery Missile Types/There Is One-
Exception Ground Command And Artillery Gun Types Can Be Netted In.These Tweaks Are To Prevent Game Engine-
From Populating Non-Used Types In Historic Locations.

I Have Found This Setup Will Work Fine SF1 Series Including BVR Engagements.Have Not Tested In SF2.

Hopefully This Will Spawn Different Targeting Ideas But Remember SF1 Is Final Cfg State While SF2 AI Will
Certainly Change.REFERENCE WORK ONLY WORK IN PROGRESS!

[Wrench]

what part of "hard coded, directly name called SAM/Radars don't register on the RWR/TEWS" wasn't quite clear?

They will still engage, but they are invisible to the Player. Until you get within visual range, and can have the 'red target box' show up. (on Normal or  Easy Mode)

 

yes, it works fine in 1stGens, as they lack the game coding for 'late model' RWR (including Vector and TEWS). But ALL directly named units will go 'stealth' in SF2 -- including hand-placed ships.

 

This is why one needs to use the generic terms "SAMLauncher" "SAMRadar" and "EWR", and hope the item's Userlist forces the Game Engine ™ to group the appropriate units together (and sometimes it don't).

 

The 3W editor will NOT do it correctly. Which is why all batteries are placed INTO the terrain's targets ini. And in my terrains, pretty damn close to their Real Life ™ locations. (yes, I have a map; actually a kmz)