fallenphoenix1986 Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 I'm having a blond moment here, after numerous attempts to intercept a flight of Mig-25's with Sundowner's Arrow FGR.3 and not having been able to get a lock I decided the RAF could do with an upgrade. I was able to splash Mig-21's all day long however the ECM on the 25's was too stong. After shopping around the RAF seems to have decided that the Arrow is potentially adaptable to house the AWG-9 systems recently in service with the F-14... The RAF in this instance will be using the Blue-Dragon missile (an SA-11 reskinned and edited).... systems integration is proving to be a Royal PITA...I've taken the various radar entries from the MF F-14A_82 ant transplanted them into the corresponding Data and Avionics ini's of the Arrow, I can get the F-14 hud symbology to work however I can't get the radar to fire up, probably missing something really obvious. so far I've moved the entire Avionics Data ini from the F-14 to the Arrow's avionics ini and the Detect system entreis into the Data ini... now out of ideas.... ummm help please Craig Quote
+Fubar512 Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 The MiG-25's ECM values are undoubtedly set unrealistically high. Other than that, watch the following video, from the 14 minute point on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQDsD5gXUY4 Quote
Spinners Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Is your Frankenmissile working when carried by something else? Does your missile have the right 'ini' lines to make it work? Quote
fallenphoenix1986 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Yeah the Frankenmssile works fine, test fired it against a flight of Mig-21's with the original CF-105 radar. Its actually your fault I started messing with this bird, saw your pics over at WHIF modeler of the 105 with a quad of SA-6's, Sparrows/Skyflashes look a bit on the small side under those massive wings so wanted something a bit beefier Now that I've tried messing with the radar, mainly to get TWS working, I've been left with no operational Radar... figure theres a line in an ini somewhere I should be changing but damned if I can think what it might be. Heading out in 10 minutes, will check the vid tomorrow, thanks. Craig Edited April 21, 2014 by fallenphoenix1986 Quote
TeargasHorse Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 In the video (thanks Fubar512), it took the Eagle driver 4 missiles to down the one Foxbat! Air combat is NOT easy, no matter what era. Just be glad you can do it over and over until you get it right, or, modify your weapons when you get up there and try it again. By the way, at 40:01ish, the narrator says that the MiG-23 Flogger is a two engine fighter? Quote
Do335 Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 In the video (thanks Fubar512), it took the Eagle driver 4 missiles to down the one Foxbat! Air combat is NOT easy, no matter what era. Just be glad you can do it over and over until you get it right, or, modify your weapons when you get up there and try it again. I'm sure the Raytheon engineers modded them afterwards! Quote
TeargasHorse Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Capt Pitz and Tolini only had what they had at the time. They wouldn't get a 2nd chance. Good thing the Iraqi pilots were not any better, or things could've gone bad real quick. There were no Raytheon engineers in the cockpit adjusting the missiles at the time. Quote
Do335 Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 True dat! by the time ARH missiles go into service there becomes other countermeasures like towed decoys. It is a constant game of sword and shield... For the pilot in pit, ya never know!! Capt Pitz and Tolini only had what they had at the time. They wouldn't get a 2nd chance. Good thing the Iraqi pilots were not any better, or things could've gone bad real quick. There were no Raytheon engineers in the cockpit adjusting the missiles at the time. Quote
KJakker Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 I'm having a blond moment here, after numerous attempts to intercept a flight of Mig-25's with Sundowner's Arrow FGR.3 and not having been able to get a lock I decided the RAF could do with an upgrade. I was able to splash Mig-21's all day long however the ECM on the 25's was too stong. After shopping around the RAF seems to have decided that the Arrow is potentially adaptable to house the AWG-9 systems recently in service with the F-14... The RAF in this instance will be using the Blue-Dragon missile (an SA-11 reskinned and edited).... systems integration is proving to be a Royal PITA... I've taken the various radar entries from the MF F-14A_82 ant transplanted them into the corresponding Data and Avionics ini's of the Arrow, I can get the F-14 hud symbology to work however I can't get the radar to fire up, probably missing something really obvious. so far I've moved the entire Avionics Data ini from the F-14 to the Arrow's avionics ini and the Detect system entreis into the Data ini... now out of ideas.... ummm help please Craig fallenphoenix1986, did you change the "AvionicsDLL=Avionics60.dll" line in the "Arrow_FGR3.INI" file to read "AvionicsDLL=AvionicsF14A.dll"? [AircraftData] AircraftFullName=Avro Arrow FGR3 AircraftShortName=CF-105 AircraftDataFile=CF-105_data.ini CockpitDataFile=CF-105_cockpit.ini UserList=CF-105_UserList.ini HangarScreen=CF-105_Hangar.jpg LoadingScreen=CF-105_Loading.jpg LoadoutImage=CF-105_LOADOUT.TGA LoadoutFile=CF-105_loadout.ini AvionicsDLL=Avionics60.dll <-------------------------Change to AvionicsDLL=AvionicsF14A.dll AvionicsDataFilename=CF-105_avionics.ini If the "Arrow_FGR3_AVIONICS.INI" file is set up for the "AvionicsF14A.dll" file structure and the "Arrow_FGR3.INI" file is still telling the game that it is using an "Avionics60.dll" format avionic file then the radar is not going to work . Secondly the lines below were taken from the "F-14A_AVIONICS.INI" file. You need the lines in bold to be placed under the [TargetTWS] entry in the "Arrow_FGR3_AVIONICS.INI" file in order for multi-targeting to work. [TargetTWS] SymbolType=TARGET_SYMBOL ShowPriorityTarget=TRUE ShowTargetDesignation=TRUE FlashOnShootCue=TRUE FlashRate=0.2 TextureName=cockpit\F-14A_TargetFull.tga Hit1Target=cockpit\F-14A_Target.tga Hit2Target=cockpit\F-14A_Target.tga IFFTarget=cockpit\F-14A_TargetIFF.tga TargetHeading=cockpit\F-14A_TargetHeading.tga ImageSize=0.08 TargetHeadingSize=0.16 1 Quote
fallenphoenix1986 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Posted April 24, 2014 Knew it was going to be something simple I'd missed, owe you one Craig Quote
+Brain32 Posted April 24, 2014 Posted April 24, 2014 By the way, at 40:01ish, the narrator says that the MiG-23 Flogger is a two engine fighter? It's the Dogfights, they are pretty good and very entertaining but not very accurate when it comes to technical details, somebody probably mistook two intakes for two engines... Quote
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