I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.

[Skyviper 1,101]

So I just found this video ... well take a look. I wouldn't do it. Because something tells me it just wouldn't end well.... in the long run. It is hilarious because the senior officers are probably thinking "Enjoy it while you can little cadet."

 

[charlielima 328]

That's the rudest bus stewardess i have ever seen.

As a taxpayer that MOS should be cut.

And they have that many senior O's with nothing better to do ?

CL

Edited April 11, 2017 by charlielima

[+Typhoid 231]

its the senior leadership doing a QC on the cadet cadre. 

 

it is a bit hilarious but all part of the senior officers making sure the cadre has their stuff together before the doolies arive

[+Trotski 936]

Oh good lord, that crap just wouldn't work in the British military, I really do not see the benefit, or actual purpose behind this practice, I have seen several videos of this load of bollox going on in the USMC recruit training, and personally, the DI's make me think of Chimpanzees, I am sure they learned all this stuff from the higher primates ! 

Yes we got beasted, and bawled at, but there was none of this in your face screaming and shouting, but it was more along the lines of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman , than a silverback Gorilla. I really couldn't see any British squaddie putting up with it, the DI would be more than likely decked in short order. But still each to their own.

[Mike Dora 171]

Agree with Troskii. This is not even on the same planet as Cranwell!

 

Mike (Cranwell graduate 1977.. )

[fallenphoenix1986 603]

Yeah, I don't get it either... more irritating than intimidating.

[+Trotski 936]

yes we were more likely to get severe pokey drill or speed drill, holding an SLR out at arms length in one hand sort of concentrated the mind somewhat, I sort of understand the logic behind this though its to put trainees under pressure, and confusion, ensuring an unwavering discipline under extreme if ridiculous circumstances. However It would not work for any Brit service man or woman, as they would end up pissing themselves at these antics and I also think the Brit Forces want men/women with a brain, not automatons who just act unthinkingly. Our Officers in the RAF Regiment did the same training as all gunners, at the same camp, after doing their stint at Cranwell of course, we used to compete against the JROC entrants, and apart from the fact that they resided in the Officers Mess, they were no different from the rest of us, consequently the understanding between junior Regiment Officers and other rank Gunners was quite good.....except for the map reading, i am sure junior officers were taught map reading skills by a half blind and insane Mongolian bog snorkler, never met a Regiment Zob who could read a damn map properly hahahaha, either that or they just did it to make us Rocks look good and give us something to chuckle about !! 

[charlielima 328]

Is that Cadet old enough to obtain a drivers license?

CL

[macelena 1,070]

In basic, that show may be intimidating "Wow, is this for real? This guy is going to eat my heart out". Later on, with a few jump induced bruises on my ass, i had a barely out ot teenage superior (leg, pog, fobbit, you name it) trying to do that to me because he had got pressed to look mean. It was because i had my MG4 slung my way, not against regulations, but a general advise. In fact, i had already showed my sarge how i did it and he made me show it to the new guys.  I almost got chewed up when i couldn't help but chuckle a bit trying to look all serious at attention, with him screaming at his toes and a wimpy pitch, my sarge giving me that "don't laugh you fucker" look in the background.

[Mike Dora 171]

I'm with you Trotskii - "the most dangerous thing on two legs = an officer with a map & a compass"..

 

Confess that during my Cranwell training I was that "thing" :)     recall a nightex on the Sennybridge ranges (South Wales mountains for everyone else) in Dec 76: task was to reach an RV in a very tight timescale, in crappy wx with visibility as dark as a badger's. Muggins here checked map & compass, then confidently led his team off at a very sharp trot, with SLRs & full packs of course. Just 180 degrees off from the correct heading...

 

Half way into the allotted time figured out the mistake, turned round and had the whole team run all the way back to the correct RV. We actually made it on time.

 

Didn't win any popularity contests that night. But sure learned a hell of a lot!   & not just about map reading..

[+Trotski 936]

Yes it kind of makes me wonder, as it would seem young Pilot Officers, and apparently 2nd Lt's suffer from the same malaise, how it is that RAF Navigators actually manage to have these missing skills, or is it merely that Navs are selected from the Cranwell/Sandhurst entrants who fail miserably at the piss poor map reading skills course, and is that also why most Navs are miserable buggers , because they really wanted to be Pilots, but they were inadequate in the failure to incorrectly decipher a map reference and knew which was the pointy up bit on a compass   

[+CrazyhorseB34 937]

Yep that video is fucking stupid.

 

 

[Skyviper 1,101]

Yep that video is fucking stupid.

 

I was wondering what you'd think about it. ... Just wondering again: are you a Colonel? General? I just remember a long time you mentioned how some sergeants better be at parade rest when talking to you.

[+CrazyhorseB34 937]

Troll.

[Toryu 156]

 

Yes it kind of makes me wonder, as it would seem young Pilot Officers, and apparently 2nd Lt's suffer from the same malaise, how it is that RAF Navigators actually manage to have these missing skills, or is it merely that Navs are selected from the Cranwell/Sandhurst entrants who fail miserably at the piss poor map reading skills course, and is that also why most Navs are miserable buggers , because they really wanted to be Pilots, but they were inadequate in the failure to incorrectly decipher a map reference and knew which was the pointy up bit on a compass

 

Some people might just be bored by walking through the countryside, lookig for some super uninteresting sh1t, drawn on some lame-a$$ map. Especially, when paired with bright-as-fcuk people who don't know how to tie their own shoe-laces in the first place.

What the mere private or NCO might find to be an entertaining worthy weekend's aventure is just another stupid game to the average pilot-aspirant.

Pilots want to fly planes - they don't give a rat's ass about most of that usual military BS, like walking (excuse me: marching) in line or digging into the ground when it's cold and rainy outside, eating sh1t out of a 1950s aliminium lunchbox, getting screamed at by a DI with an IQ similar to that of 10 yards of brick-road, etc. But that's just my two cents.

But then again, there's such a thing as army officers, so there surely has to be a source of strange people

 

In my unit (Luftwaffe, and YES we did complain when somebody did rip the Playstation plug out of the wall) we had an officer aspirant (he didn't want to fly, crazy person!) whose dad was an army artillery officer (in the german army, berets are colour-coded; paratroopers have bordeaux berets, artillery people have pure red, etc.; the Luftwaffe knew berets look shitty and used side caps or Feldmützen instead). That aspirant would make a game out of pertending to hit his dad's beret and making a buzzer-sound while doing so.

 

Now, you Brits didn't have a proper constription for some time, which supposedly takes all the fun out of the boot-camp phase:

When we still had a draft, we'd have a take in every three months (four times a year). The DIs usually preferred the spring and fall intakes, as they would have the "best people to work with", while the summer intake (starting July 1st), usually had all the smart kids that would talk back, question stuff or starting to "think" and act on their own, when expected not to.

The most funny intake was the one in winter (january 1st), as it had all the "Metzger, Maurer, Mörder" (butchers, bricklayers, murderers; tradespeople and usually not the sharpest knives from those cupboards or generally "difficult" people and draftdodgers whore were not bright enough to get an excuse). I've heard lots of funny stories about those guys - like being told to guard XYZ, then being forgotten about and still standing on guard at said object 24hrs later. When asked why they hadn't started to seek somebody out or trying to contact the barracks, they'd say they ere ordered to guard XYZ untill they were relieved...

 

All in all, it was fun in retrospect, buy would I do it again? Probably not.

Edited April 18, 2017 by Toryu

[Skyviper 1,101]

Troll.

 

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Apologies. I really thought you were a high ranking officer. Apologies.