TW P-51 Directional Loop Antenea

[Jon_Beers]

If you look closely at Mustang in the Foreground, mounted dorsally behind the normally included antenna you should note the inclusion of a directional loop antenna. Other pics have the loop installed on other CBI/PTO 'Stangs. Its unusual but I believe had downloaded files where a pic in the 'outer' opackage had the mod, but inside the pack at the 'plane level the 'loadnig' or 'hanger' screen (of the same plane) does not have the loop. Obviously, the pic could be 'modded.' Maybe the fake pilot method was utilized.

If anyone could clear up the mystery, thanks. An double thnks if you know how to get this mod.

I finally bit the bullet and got me some YAP. I wanted to fly from le Shima escorting the YAP B-29 to the home islands with skinned TW P-51D/Ks etc

5th Air Force Mustang ReadMe.txt

[Wrench]

Raven, iirc, did the loop for me for CBI Warhawks. It's added via fake pilot.

[+russouk2004]

iirc its the one I made for you and the jugs...

[Wrench]

Thanks Russ; I just couldn't remember, and thought it Raven!!!

[Jon_Beers]

Is this fakepilot directional antenna thing on combatace? 

I suppose the 'Uncle Dog' beam riding directional antenna is a non-starter

[Wrench]

Since it was originally for the AAF CBI Jugs, looking in the downloads section, one can find this:

you can throw out the rest, all you'll need is the adf nm and fake pilot folders in the /Objects/Pilots folder.

and you should thank Russ for building it, and reminding me what I did with it!! (some other people don't seem to do that anymore)

OUt of curiosity, why YAP map?? They're terrains are fucking horrible! There's one here (Okinawa) that has much more detail, even if it has numerous flaws. At least the cities have things to bomb, and stuff is actually IN (or very close to) Real Life (tm) locations. Given the game and terrain engines limitations

[Stratos]

On 12/8/2020 at 9:20 PM, StoneAxe1492 said:

 

I finally bit the bullet and got me some YAP. I wanted to fly from le Shima escorting the YAP B-29 to the home islands with skinned TW P-51D/Ks etc

 

What map are you talking about?

[Jon_Beers]

I do believe I have combatace 'Okinawa.'   What I'm Interested in terrain-wise  is the island of Le Shima off Okinawa. I seem to remember having a problem. Could have crashed or populated tiles like crazy. Will try it again. I just looked at the map though and Le Shima is there. Motivation.

 I also decided to try YAP as I wanted to check out the YAP cockpits and a few planes I was hoping to add or replace. I like his version of the P-51B and P-39D. The P-38s are good as are some bombers. The TW P-5D and cockpit with the plethera of combatace skins trump's YAP.  I like some of the YAP jap planes too. Some stuff isn't as good as others true. Oh, I have dumped all necessary files into the subfolders of my WWII Install, but in 'OBJECTS' have 3 folders named AIRCRAT.ETO, AIRCRAFT.PTO, & AIRCRAFT.YAP.  A simple rename before launching is all that is needed.  Will prob combine the PTO CBI YAP planes at some point. 

Back to terrains: Mustangs over the Philippines and hitting Japan from Okinawa (+ Le Shima) while escorting B-29s has been interesting for a long time to me.  Cool paint.  Oh, flying from Iwo Jima to Japan though, that's scary.

Thank you for the loop antenna. Historical eye candy but sublime!

 

[Jon_Beers]

There is a small island next to Okinawa called Le Shima. Mustangs flew from there to Japan. It is on the combatAce Okinawa Planning map. Dont think I tried to start a plane from there in the combatace Okinawa terrain though. But, I have done so with the YAP Okinawa terrain. The YAP terrain is acceptable to me but not all the way up to modern standards. I think most of it was built several years ago by a small team. Kinda rushed.

Could use some green hell.

[Wrench]

the one that's here was rebuilt by me. so, you know what to expect. I'm very sure theirs is based of the same inaccurate one by Edward from around 2005, and probably stripped out.

Given what I've seen, especially in their Persian Gulf terrain -the same one that's here by Gepard and stolen -let's call a spade a space- and used without permission, has NOTHING on it. While my rebuild, well...you see the point. All in all, they don't have a good reputation. Some of their models are good, even passable. But they're all optimized for the 1stGen 06 patch level. All need extensive work to get them "sf2 ready".

Ie Shima is there on my rebuild - I should know, I put it there. Along with the anchorage at Karama Retto. 

The Pacific War is my thing -- most of my family was there (well, perevious generation)

[Jon_Beers]

Yeah, i adjusted the position on the loop and it's cool. I checked what documentation as per a previous comment and indeed the CBI Allied Fighters appear to be the main or only fighters sporting loop antennae. I probably read that in the past or noticed the situation in mustang pics as it seemed familiar. Oh, should the loop be silver or black. I haven't noticed that before, but they appear black in my book. Even my Airfix 1/48 P-51 show it as black.  I'll post a pic a later.

That's interesting you have family that served in the Pacific. Rough duty to be sure. Images on the screen can't do it justice.

[Jon_Beers]

Hey, uuh... I haven't been using the YAP Okinawa/Japan. I've using yours. The YAP one doesn't load right, on my machine anyway. When I get to Japan its messed up.

I attach some pics with the loop.   Incidently I just figured out why I can sometimes take screenshots and other times not. If I use the "Cntrl-'H'" feature before taking a PrtScn it won't work. I didn't try turning off the HUD data from the 'Options' Screen yet.

I am purplexed as why some planes get the Camera lenses on the fuselage and some Mustangs don't.

[Wilches]

Pal, I'm sad to say that only those CBI Mustangs carried this ADF antenna. 

[Wrench]

Yep.

Iwo based use a double vertical antenna (also seen on P-47Ns), and a "thingy" inside the canopy

and the "camera lens" equipped versions would be F-6s. They're NOT P-51s

[Jon_Beers]

Are you saying  'AircraftShortName=F-6K Recce Mustang'  and/or  'AircraftFullName=F-6K-10-NT' has to be in the  'AirCraftName.ini'  to trigger the lenses to show up? That's kinda cool.

Yep will go back & remove F-6 from the appropriate files and comment out the loop from the non-CBI planes.  Do you think a tactical Recon Group or squadron would have both camera laden and non-photographic Mustangs? I think the did so.

[Jon_Beers]

I found where the recce lenses are located. In the decals.

Man my troubleshooting skills have eroded with all this idle-sitting preying for a vaccine.

[Wrench]

you know we have a real RF-51D, right??? (name change from F-6 after October 1947)

[Jon_Beers]

I probably came across this back in the day, but had forgotten. For much of my life I was into fighter aircraft or my favorite was fighters. I was interested other types as well. In about 1990 I bought my first computer and the race was on. I bought a flight sim ASAP and soon started to shoot virtual planes down. (After much trying.)  Anyway, more recently I've developed an interest the F-6 and photo recon in general.

You probably read an account of a pair of F-6 Mustangs shooting down several planes then proceeding to take pictures of the smoking wrecks. Confirmed! (street-cred maximized)  Also, it is well documented that the  reconnaissance photos are invaluable to military planning. Very important missions.

Hey, I have not tried  the  recon mission in SF2. Time to try that.

Oh, what was all this about?  I have a pic of the 110th TRS, 71st TRG Mustang with no cameras on the left side. I may have even read that all the fighters in a TRS did not have cameras. I guess the  provided top cover. Sounds like SF2 mission editor time again.

[Wilches]

Little known is the fact that F-6D/K had this wing markings to aid the photographs.

[Wrench]

actually, those are for dive bombing. Get a copy of Osprey's "Very Long Range P-51 Mustang Units of the Pacific War". 

[Wilches]

Wrench, you confused the markings. The dive bombing ones were these:

They were pretty much different.

[Jon_Beers]

I saw the dive bombing markings before (and still not sure how they were used).  Not sure I've seen the photo recce markings before.  I have the VLR book so can give it a look.

[Wilches]

I found the recon stripes on Kagero P-51 (vol?) and on NET. With some keen eyes and good photos you'll see those markings. Only on left wing.