SF2 Avionics Community Pack - - Beta release v0.4

[+Lex2Limit 53]

If you want to change de HUD Glass - "pit_HUDReflection.TGA" is the correct Filname in the cockpit Files So u don't need the Reflector FIle :D

I can' get the Right Gun Light to Illuminate????????? Che the Textures of course.

 

[+Lex2Limit 53]

Also the Gun Counter is Zero????

[+Lex2Limit 53]

This is a Gamechanger, i think. Every TW Pit is the same HUD Texture!!!!!

Edited April 15 by Lex2Limit

[Eagle114th 898]

@Lex2Limit

Your modding projects is masterpiece!

When I release the new version (beta) of SF - CAP, i would like to include your F-4Es into the pack for the next version of beta too!  And you will also have tons of new assets ,including optical sights to use, if you want to. I look forward exchanging the mods with you.


Cheers!

Edited April 16 by Eagle114th

[+Lex2Limit 53]

Thx for the compliment!!!!Yes i like sharing our mods!! Feel free!!

Nice Greez

Lex

[Eagle114th 898]

Hello everyone,

The week have been hectic, didnt' get a chance to work on mods.  Today got a chance to continue working on A-4M. Got permissin to use wonderful cockpit from ODS30 (A-4KU) for A-4M.  The result is beautiful!

 

 

Eagle114th

 

Edited April 18 by Eagle114th

[+starfighter2 123]

A-4M (82)

A-4AR

 

[+Lex2Limit 53]

21 hours ago, Eagle114th said:

Hello everyone,

The week have been hectic, didnt' get a chance to work on mods.  Today got a chance to continue working on A-4M. Got permissin to use wonderful cockpit from ODS30 (A-4KU) for A-4M.  The result is beautiful!

 

 

Eagle114th

 

I recognize that the TV Pictures is Flip upsidedown

[Eagle114th 898]

@Lex2Limit

That is true, I am attempting to fix it. 

Right now i am tryhing to fix the AA MODE HUD to ahve depressed gun (GunBoresightAngle=-1.5), it does not work

It only work for AG mode (with CCIP for gun)

I am currently working on A-4N Ayit series which also use A-4M cockpits.  This is problem:

When switching to gun for AA mode, when firing, it still shoots shells below the gun sight:



However, when switching to AG  mode for gun, it aligns with the sight:

 

UPDATE: I DID IT!  Got it fixed.  What solves the problem is this code:

 

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ViewAngles=0.0,-1.5,0.0

Had to set -1.5 at the middle part (Y Y value) for depressed AA.

What i laerned is, the value in GunBoresightAngle= and AimAngles in data and avionic file, then I msut edit ViewAngles to match that.

Now I have proper alignment of the gun sight and gun for both AA and AG.  Mission accomlpished!  now I need to fix the inverted TV when switching to that via radar switching mode.


Eagle114th

Edited April 19 by Eagle114th

[Eagle114th 898]

@Lex2Limit

Hello Lex2Limit, I found the issues with inverted (up-side) TV cam when switching to ARBS TV.  The issue is this code:

 

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CameraFOV=300.000000

If you set it more than 180, this may have caused TV to be upside.  So I reduced it to 25.00000 and it is back to correct view.

 

Now that is solved, I am able to have correct working ARBS TV for A-4M and A-4N series!


Eagle114th

[Wrench 10,152]

So, if you rolled inverted, would the image be right side up??

 

I'll show myself out ...

 

[Eagle114th 898]

There is an interesting discovery I made about the angle of camera of ARBS TV;  You can edit the angle fo camera to accurately match the gun angle too, if that is hwat you desire. 

Here is codes from both DtmDragon / Nyghtfall cockpits of A-4Ms:
 

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[ARBS]
SystemType=EO_CAMERA
ModelNodeName=TV
CameraFOV=25.00000
CameraPosition=0.0,9.762,0.055
CameraAngles=0.0,-1.5,0.0 
SightTexture=avq23sight1.tga
SeekerRange=30.000000
SeekerGimbleLimit=40.000000
Seekertrackrate=9.0
SearchFOV=5.000000
SearchTexture=ARBSsight2.tga
EODisplayFlags=262144

See the code:
 

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CameraAngles=0.0,-1.5,0.0 

For example,  DTMDragon's A-4M (1978)'s data file for boresight and gun angle:
 

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[FlightControl]
.
.
.
GunBoresightAngle=-1.5

AND

[LeftGun]
.
>

.
AimAngles=0.0,-1.5,0.0

And in cockpit.ini:
 

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[CockpitSeat001]
.
.

.
ViewAngles=0.0,-1.5,0.0

And in the avionic.ini:

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[HUD]
.
.
.
GunBoresightAngle=-1.5

And then if you set the camera
CameraAngles=0.0,-1.5,0.0 

Then it will match the gun firing angle besides using it for angle bombing attacks.


Eagle114th

[Eagle114th 898]

9 minutes ago, Wrench said:

So, if you rolled inverted, would the image be right side up??

 

I'll show myself out ...

 

HA HA HA 

And it get us confsued betwen up / down pitch, but hey, somtime we like to fly dangerously...

LOL!

[Eagle114th 898]

@starfighter2

The A-4M and A-4AR cockpits looks GREAT!!!  I would love to include them in SF - CAP pack when you release them with yourr names in the credit page!

I look forward updating the wonderful cockpits you are doing with the avionics I am making for A-4M and A-4Ns!  I recently managed to get ARBS TV and HUD fixed and tweaked.  Here is the lastest progress with both HUD and TV:

(NOTE: By adding the ARBS by data.ini, it does not use the hue colors as deafult TV uses, so in order, to try my best to fix this, the tilted grayish green color is applied on the ARBS TV.)


Eagle114th

[Eagle114th 898]

Hello everyone!

I have a report to share about the big progress on A-4 series pack:

After finishing working on Israel A-4Ns, after learning how to check to ensure that the optical sight is properly aligned with the depressed gun for both AA and AG, for either cockpit method or HUD methods, I discovered that some of the A-4 wasn't properly aligned.

So I went through A-4A - B - C - E - F - L - M, A-4G,  A-4K, A-4 E - F - H - N Ayit and re-checking and ffixing any mis-aligned optical sight and gun aim angle.

Here is screenshots of A-4N (Early) with AN/APG-145 radar:

(NOTE: Since the information on this radar is not yet found, I am basing it on Early A-4M (1971)'s radar.)

 

1980s version of A-4N Ayit (With LGB capability)

 

A-4N AyitM (Modernized) - 2000s version, the gunsight and in AA mode, the 'leading lines are re-made in higher resolution, I hope you like it!

 

Next, the Argentina A-4P (A-4B), A-4C, and A-4AR Fightinghawk are completed as well!

Here is A-4AR with ARG-1 V2 (AN/APG-66) texture 

(NOTE: This texture and HUD is based on the wonderful work of BANIDOS-TEAM and DTMDragon)

 

By the way, the folder structure have been updated and changed;

Here is an example of A-4 Skyhawk folders:

What we can see, each fo folders have the updatd avionic files that are designed for each mods made by modders, including thirdwire.  For example, if you want files for thirdwire only, then you sue folder "THIRDWIRE'.  if you have DTMDragon's A-4N Ayit, A-4M Skyhawk II, and other A-4s, then you go to the fodler "DTMDRAGON".

That way,  it is easy for any of us to know which files belong to TW or mods made by various modders.
 

Finally, this is my favorite part;  Turn on/off sights (SIGHT MODE) for pre-HUD for early cold war aircraft.  When you are either on land, parking taxing, or crusing in NAV mode, the sight is off by dfault.  To turn optical sight on, you switch to AA or AG MODE or by changing sight mode.

NOTE:  All aircraft with actual HUD, it is always enabled by default, especaily for all HUD mods.

Nnext, optional accessiblity part, it is the most fun part of working with the optical sight!  Spent some of time designing it as 'what if' it was made in the early cold war era, something that is lore-friendly, very simple and 'could have happened".  So I came up with this:

 

WHen IRM have the lock on target, the solid small circle will appear on front, center of optical sight.  I still need to be careful who I actualy have lock on.

A-4s Skyhawk is finally completed.  Now moving on to A-1, F-8 and other aircraft, to revisit and see if there is any thing needs fixing.


Eagle114th

 

Edited April 24 by Eagle114th

[+Lex2Limit 53]

Have you tried the pit_HUDReflection.tga for the HUD instead of the gunsight reflector?

Nice Greez

Lex

[Eagle114th 898]

3 hours ago, Lex2Limit said:

Have you tried the pit_HUDReflection.tga for the HUD instead of the gunsight reflector?

Nice Greez

Lex

Thank you for the information!  How did you manage to find the name of texture file? I wouuld like to learn from you.  That way, for all aircraft, I can find the texture file name and create the actual reflector glass / HUD tilted colors. 


Eagle114th

[+Lex2Limit 53]

1 hour ago, Eagle114th said:

Thank you for the information!  How did you manage to find the name of texture file? I wouuld like to learn from you.  That way, for all aircraft, I can find the texture file name and create the actual reflector glass / HUD tilted colors. 


Eagle114th

Hard story! Toooo much Time i'm searching. but at the end i have old Object.CAT Files from the  F-4 so i found the names of the most textures.

It#s very simple if you know the texture. Make a TGA file Square an make your HUD colors and shades like your belonings.

Some of may F-4E file

 

pit_HUDReflection.TGA

Edited April 25 by Lex2Limit
wrong File

[Eagle114th 898]

@Lex2Limit

Great news, it works!  Thank you for the information on HUD reflector glass tTGA file!

UPDATE:
Israel A-4 Ayit with HUD looks great with proper tilt glass for HUD too!

 

Cheers!!!

Edited April 27 by Eagle114th

[Eagle114th 898]

Hello everyone!


After fixing all A-4s to have solid tilted reflector glass (Thank you Lex2Limit!), I began working on F-8 series, revisitng all to have latest updates;

1) By default, for NAV mode, the sight is turend off.  To turn it back on, switch to AA or AG mode.  And when gun mode is selected, the gyro lead computing sight will appear
2) the refelctor glass is fully tilted now, instead of "HUD method"



3) Fixed the depression for bomb, both A-4s and F-8s now have depressed sight when selecting bombs.

4) New optional accessiblity as shown in prevous A-4 Skyhawk, the solid  circile will appear when IRM have lock on target.

Eagle114th

Edited April 28 by Eagle114th

[+Coupi 4,500]

Great ! I hope to fly them soon ! P.

[+dtmdragon 2,764]

I'm not sure these navy gunsights were depressable. That's why there are so many rings and the ladder from the bottom to the center. Check the F-8 tactical manual I sent you earlier but I don't think there is any mention of depressing the gunsight for bomb aiming etc

Edited April 29 by dtmdragon

[RustyKurnass 662]

On 18/04/2025 at 11:26 PM, starfighter2 said:

A-4M (82)

 

 

This will be a great addition for the A.4M and some Israeli models, especially combined  with the avionics on this thread. Great work all guys!

[Eagle114th 898]

@dtmdragon

Thank you for telling me about the depresed sight.  recenlty went through F-8A/B, F-8D/E, and F-8H/J flight manuals,  there is no menitons of depression. I am going to fix it, so there is no depressed sight for air to ground attack mode.

Cheers!

[Eagle114th 898]

Hello everyone!

Yesterday and today have been very productive day working on revisiting and fixing any thing I find that needs fixing AD / A-1 Skyraider, F-86 Sabre / Sabre Dog, andd F-89s.

I am very happy with the results, after updating them to the latest sttandard of waht I have learned so far with this projects:

1) for non-HUD version (optical sight, such as A-4, F-4, etc..), for nav modfe, the opticla sight is turend off
2) By toggling the sight mode to AA or AG, will always turn it on, especailly if switching to gun mode for specific aircdraft, will enable the gyro computing sight, such as F-4 / F-8 / F-86 / etc...
3) Adding the missing aircraft , such as A-4M, A-4N, and other aircraft.
4) Adding new accessiblity based oon what I  have done for F-4 / F-8 / F-86 sabre and Sabre Dog that carries IRM / F-89

I want to share some interesting notes about AD / A-1 Skyradiers:

For DAY based AD / A- there is only one type of gunsight for AA and AG mode.

However, for Day and Night version of AD, such as A-4NL and other series designed for night mission, there are two type of sights;

Night mode (AA mode)

Day Sight (Normal Sight - AG Mode)

 

And news about F-89 series;  I did some re-working on them as I revisited them, I realied I have two version of F-89s packs, so I went for the latest one by Wrench (F-89 remod v3) and woked on it from there with cockpits / radar / Optical sights.

For F-89D / H / J

There are two version fo sights, which is modifeid N-9 sight.  the AA version will have regular sight, while the AG version have an extra symbol near to bottom part of modifeid N-9, which is desigend for rockets.

With that, you can switch between AA / AG mode for normal or rocket version of modified N-9.

And the optional accessiblity feature feels very fitting as well!
when there is a lock on aircraft by radar, the small bracket appears:
 

when AAM ahve lock on target (SAHM or IRM)

 

Now revisiting F-102, F-106, F-51 (P-51), and MiG-15 before finishing off F-4s.



Eagle114th