ordway

Hi, I don't think there is much of a difference unless I made a note at the bottom of the notes saying version 1.0. or 1.1 or 1.2, etc,. I did keep adding more buttons as I got more updated photos from the East, however.

View File MiG-27M cockpit- Soviet leading ground attack fighter to attack in a NATO/Warsaw pact 1970s confrontation-Simplified from the "K" model, with BMP TV screen. Mig-27M cockpit (SFP1 series) made by Ordway, Starfighter2, lindr2 based on color cockpit photos and cockpit diagrams. Original cockpit made by Armourdave and Sal. Avionics and optional advanced flight model by Nele. You need avionics 70 and the latest patch updates from Thirdwire. Tested on Windows XP and not Vista. However it might work on Vista too. This is the cockpit for the Soviet MIG-27M ground attack fighter which would probably have been one of the first attackers against NATO in a NATO versus Soviet block confrontation in the 1970s and 1980s. It is referenced from color photographs and original cockpit diagrams. The BMP TV screen is just there for looks. The real TV screen will appear as usual, in the upper right hand corner when using many guided bombs/missiles. No one I knew could figure out how to make it work on the instrument panel in the correct area. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MiG-27M History: The MiG 27, had superb low altitude, high speed capabilities and could out run many other fighters. Concerns over the complexity (and unreliability) of the very advanced MiG-27K ground attack fighter led to the development of a simpler variant, the "MiG-27M". It retained much of the MiG-27K's electronics including a jammer, but featured a cheaper and less sophisticated nav-attack suite. The MiG-27M could carry all the "smart" munitions carried by the MiG-27K except for the KAB-500L LGB. The MiG-27M was externally very hard to tell from a MiG-27K. Initial flight of the first MiG-27M, a converted MiG-27, was in April 1976, and the type went into production in 1978 in Siberia . 162 Soviet-built MiG-27Ms were delivered into 1982. However, from 1982, the decision was made to upgrade most of the older MiG-27 fleet to MiG-27M standards and this of course evemntually added hugely to the over all total number of MiG-27Ms. The MiG-27M was license-built by one user, the Indian Air Force (IAF) starting in the mid-1980s, with the first HAL machine, assembled from a kit performing its initial flight on 11 January 1986. A total of 165 HAL MiG-27Ms -- sometimes referred to with the designation of "MiG-27ML ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Directions: 1) Download Lindr2's Mig-27 series at http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6576 2) Back it up just in case. 3) Just download the contents of whole filefolder Mig-27M intact into your aircraft folder as one folder. 4) When asked to overwrite say yes. -Finished! Thanks to Lindr2 for all his sustained hard and dedicated work. Thanks to Armourdave and Sal for the original cockpit. Thanks to Lindr2 and Epizikl for help with the cockpit research and photos. Thanks to Lindr2 for the various TV (optical) cockpit images. Thanks to Armour Dave and Sal for the cockpit. Thanks to Starfighter2, lindr2 for the Mig-23P HUD which has stymied modelers until now that I know of. Thanks to the Mirage factory for the Mig-23ML downloadable as a pack from combatace in the pack called Mirage Factory MiG-23 "Flogger" Series. Not for payware. Enjoy! Submitter ordway Submitted 02/11/2010 Category Jet Cockpits

Yes, the brakes are only linked to an on or off brake button. However, for il-2, it is hard coded so that when you turn with the brakes on, it acts like differential braking to me so the aircraft turns a little like differential braking. By the way, I have had these rudder pedals for over a year and they are some of the best I have ever had (since 1991 or so when I had some made of wood!). These are strong, offer resistance, are realistic and I highly recommend them and feel a lot like the real airplanes I have flown since the early 1970s.

I'm with you Peter. The AI can be pretty good. When I fly the Neiuport 28 against Alb. D5s, they get altitude and boom and zoom me and won't get into a horizontal fight with me (theorectically, I should be able to out turn them.

New possible gunsight color-pale yellow in Mig-27D as a color photo showed:

Thanks!

Very nice, I have it working! Can I use it in my/your cockpit for release?

Thanks! I'm working on it! Alpha Mig-27K

Thanks!

Mig-27 Flogger D and Mig-27D ground attack fighter/bomber cockpits for SFP1 series now available for download. Mig-27D-(More geared for nuclear weapons and on standby alert like the F-111s) Mig-27-(first large scale production Mig-27 ground attack fighter) Available here: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=9749

View File MiG-27( MiG-23BM) and separate MiG-27D dedicated ground attack variant cockpits (First production versions) and leading attacker in a Warsaw Pact Nato central front confrontation This is both the MiG-27(MiG-23BM) and MiG-27D dedicated ground attack fighter/bomber variant cockpits for SFP1 series Lindr2's MiG-27 FloggerD and MiG-27D available below: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6576 It is based on the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 fighter aircraft, but optimized for the air-to-ground role. Additional cockpit armor was installed, along with a totally new nav-attack system. The MiG-27 was first operational in 1973. However unlike the MiG-23, the MiG-27 did not see widespread use outside the Soviet Union, as most other countries opted for the MiG-23BN ground attack fighter. It would have been one of the leading WARSAW Pact elements of a NATO central front attack. http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6576 It has an extremely different gunsight (and no radar) and different panel compared to the Mig-23 fighter series. This was the first MiG-27 version. I had quite a hard time getting the plain MiG-27 working, so now both should work. They both have different loadout capabilties and operational time frames from one another. They also have different equipment from one another as they were basically the same except that the MiG-27D was more optimized for nuclear strike and had more panels for that. The Mig-27D was also apparently kept on nuclear alert much like the US used the F-111. Directions: 1) Download Lindr2's MiG-27 series at http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6576 2) Back it up just in case. 3) Just download the contents of both filefolders MiG-27 and MiG-27D intact into your aircraft folder. 4) When asked to overwrite say yes. -Finished! 4) OPTIONAL: Add Nele's alternate advanced MiG-27 flight model/ECM (data.ini) which is in the NeilFlightModel folder called MiG-27_data.ini. Just pop it in and overwrite when asked...back it up as always. The original flight model is also included in the Nele folder titled "original" in case you want to go back to the original flight model and data file. I personally strongly recommend it for getting an accurate feel of the Mig-27 according to the published reports I have researched...but it is not for beginners. Thanks to Lindr2 for all his sustained hard, dedicated and excellent work! Thanks to Armourdave and Sal for the original cockpit. Thanks to Lindr2 and Epizikl for help with the cockpit research and photos. Enjoy! Submitter ordway Submitted 08/21/2009 Category Jet Cockpits

Can you re download it? I might have been adding a link.

View File Mig-23UB cockpit tandem seat trainer/fighter with working UB HUD This is the Mig-23UB two seat trainer/fighter cockpit for Lindr2's masterful Mig-23UB. The Mig-23UB was the Mig-23M's two-seat trainer. Production began in 1970 with about 1000 airframes. It has the Mig-23M HUD from Starfighter 2 and Lindr2, but has no radar as it apparently seemed too problematic to maintain in real life. It was used for training and was heavily exported as some countries lost almost one fourth of their entire Mig-23 fleet to accidents. It had a backup fighter role...but without radar, it was limited. It apparently kept the ASP-23D sight, the Kh-23 Delta-NM missile guiding equipment, the camera, and the R-3S and R-13M missiles for a limited anti-air capability. It added, an AOA limiter and angle of attack indicator, the Poliot-1I-23 flight/navigation system with the SAU-23UB autopilot , a better failure warning system and a rear cockpit periscope were installed Thanks to Nele for the optional alternate detailed UB flight model. So the Mig-23UB usually had *no radar* on most airframes (some units might have retained radar). It has a map, pencil and stopwatch for those precision approaches. Oh...and why is 310 K/Hr plastered all over the cockpit- Read on! From flying a two seat Mig-23: "Then we retracted flaps to take off position as he let me do the take off and fly around the pattern again. From the back on final all the instructor kept saying was 310 kilometers airspeed over and over." http://www.warbirdsofdelaware.com/Airplane...87/Default.aspx Directions: 1) Back up your Lindr2 Mig-23UB folder or download it first from: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=9712. 2) Just download the whole filefolder Mig-23UB intact into your aircraft folder as one folder. 3) When asked to overwrite say yes. -Finished! 4) OPTIONAL: Add Nele's alternate advanced Mig-23M flight model which is in the NeilFlightModel folder called MiG-23UB_data.ini. Just pop it in and overwrite when asked...back it up as always. I personally strongly recommend it for getting an accurate feel of the Mig-23UB according to the published reports I have researched...but it is not for beginners. Thanks to Lindr2 for all his sustained hard and dedicated work. Thanks to Armourdave and Sal for the cockpit. Thanks to Starfighter2 and Lindr2 for the HUD. Not for payware. Enjoy! Submitter ordway Submitted 08/20/2009 Category Jet Cockpits

Lindr2, I love that green cockpit display in the radar area!!!!

Gepard! I am very impressed with your Mig-23MK flight model! You seem to have studied the strengths and weaknesses of the Mig-23M series very carefully and done some long work to make your flight model to highlight its quirks and strengths! Downloadable at: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=23486

Early alpha Mig-23UB two seat cockpit: I also want to add a pencil and a stopwatch I think. Anyone want to guess why that number "310" is plastered in red in two places in the cockpit and underlined? (Real historical reason).

Thank you!

Yes, Lindr2 can help with the avionics!!!! Maybe we can use Lindr2's avionics and Neles flight models.

Hi Epizikl, Yes, I am correctly being corrected for putting out other people's avionics.inis and sometimes flight models which are incredibly off target-although I appreciate their efforts- (which all have to be included just to make the @$$&!! Mig-23 specific HUDs and, ECM, weapons systems work (as in the P and MLA which do not have their own supporting aircraft at all!) which were done by other people! (Sounds like the actual Mig-23!). So, I need to put off all more work on the Mig-27 cockpits (and Mig-23BN attack variant cockpits) until I get all the currently published Mig-23-included avionics and occasional flight models up to par which I have already published! I think I will try to include and integrate Nele's avionics.inis, flight model,.inis and aircraft.inis accurate versions (listed in an above post) and republish them in the current Mig-23 series cockpits before I continue with the Mig ground attack series cockpits (which are mostly done). Sounds like I am heading more and more towards producing a whole aircraft rather than just a cockpit...but oh well! Hmmm, does "art" mirror history on the Mig-23?!!!

You can try downloading it again. I just changed and uploaded a new avionics.ini that I might have messed up after multiple version uploads. The newest is V1.5. I am going dizzy after keeping track of twelve or so different Mig-23/27 cockpits in several SFP1 versions for testing.