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The short answer is yes. They were basically the same aircraft in the cockpit...but maybe more electronics/replaced newer items in the later Saar. Unless I can find a cockpit photo of a Saar. The Saar might have had a blue artifical horizon added...if so I would make a separate Saar cockpit and release it in a jiffy!

View File SFP2 Israeli-modified Super Mystere Cockpit New SFP2 Israeli-modified Dassault Super Mystere B.2 Early-Mid life cockpit for Wings Over Israel2 (I could not get the SFP1 version to work in SFP2 and had to start over again with SFP2). Gages have been moved, eliminated and added. Bitmaps were added. Color photos and cockpit diagrams of the Super Mystere were used as reference. You need the Wings over Israel 2 for the Dassault SMB2 Super Mystere. Originally inspired by CA_Stary (photo-realistic early to mid life additions added by Richard "Pitts2A"Ordway). version 1.0 June 07, 2010 You NEED SFP2 Israel and a previous SFP2 addon (with the F-100D Super Sabre) such as SFP2, WOV2, WOE2, to use it! 3D .LOD files not included! ________________________________________ ________________________________________ _____________________________ Credits: CA_Stary for all his hard work to make the brilliant basic Super Mystere B.2. in SFP1 Thanks to Frank Safrenek and Michel Gerard of Mirage Aircraft of Flightsimulator.com for pics of the Mystere IVA and Ouragan-many of which carry over to the Super Mystere. http://www.mirage4fs.com/ TK for Wings Over Israel2 and a bitmap image of a Meteor battery gage. Lexx_Luthor for his "Generic Cockpits: applications to strategic air warfare" at Thirdwire forums and cockpits MOVE editing discoveries. Really great stuff there! Wrench, for his tutorial about adding F-100D cockpit to unflyable WOI 1 planes. And suggestions to use Hun's pit in Super Mystere. ________________________________________ ________________________________________ _____________________________ This is a modification of Thirdwire F-100D sfp2 cockpit to represent the Dassault Super Mystere B.2 Early-Mid life cockpit. ________________________________________ ________________________________________ _____________________________ Installation: The 3D F-100D base cockpit is NOT included! If you have any previous merged SFP2 installs, you can just add the contents of this download to the Super Mystere folder and it should work. If you have only the SFP2 Israel alone, then you need to extract the F-100 contents and add it to the Super Mystere folder. It's two minutes work anyway. CAT File Extract Utility can be found at: http://combatace.com...3-catpack-archi ving-utility/ Included are ini files and all repainted textures. 1. Extract the archive to your C: MydocumentsThirdwireWings Over Israel2ObjectsAircraftSuperMystereB2 folder 2. Using the CAT File Extract Utility extract from SFP2 the F-100D_PIT.LOD...and all the other F-100 files if you want. More precisely, from "ObjectData.cat" found in "other_Thirdwire_jet_simulationObjects" directory extract the file: "F-100D_PIT.LOD" -this file is the geometry of the Super Sabre cockpit. It's core file and cannot be redistributed. Period. 3. Copy this file into C: MydocumentsThirdwireWings Over Israel2ObjectsAircraftSuperMystereB2cockpit folder. 4.That's it. Nothing more needed. Go flying! ________________________________________ ________________________________________ _____________________________ HISTORY: The Dassault SMB2 Super Mystere was the basic equivalent of the North American F-100 Super Sabre except smaller and much less powerful. It saw much air-air combat and gave stellar value to Israel. Over Saykal, the Israeli Super Mysteres encountered a pair of Syrian MiG-21s and although outclassed by the MiGs, shot both of them down. By the end of the first day of 1967 Six Days War hositilities, Super Mysteres had destroyed 5 aircraft in the air. http://www.geocities...anaveral/Hangar /2848/smbd.htm http://www.acig.org/...h/article_255.s html In 1975, Israel sold 12 complete airframes and 6 sets of spares to Honduras. The aircraft were involved in numerous border skirmishes with Nicaragua and were finally withdrawn from service in 1996. http://en.wikipedia....sault_Super_Mys t%C3%A8re ==================================== Tactics: The Super Mystere has almost the same thrust/weight t/w ratio as the F-100. It has a noticeably lower wing loading than the F-100 so can out turn it all other things being equal. It can't climb as fast as the F-100-(Mike Spick, Illustrated Directory of Fighters). Against the Mig-19 and Mig-21 and MiG 23, try to out turn them. Against the Vampire, Meteor, Mig-15, Mig-17 try to do vertical yo yos while turning. ===================================== Legal stuff: You can do whatever you want with this, as long as you don't include it in any payware package. Giving us credits would be fine. Richard "Pitts2A" Ordway Przemek "CA_Stary" Starkiewiczfor Wings Over Submitter ordway Submitted 06/07/2010 Category Jet Cockpits  

Vampire single engine jet cockpit almost finished. This can also probably be used for the new DH Venom as well. Done from the aircraft manual as well as multiple color cockpit photos. Some gages moved and changed, placards added and bitmats added and colors added and changed.

SFP2 SMB2 Super Mystere cockpit almost finished. I used color cockpit photos as reference. I could not get the SFP1 Super Mystere cockpit working so I started one from a SFP2. I have moved some items and added colors and placards.

Ouch! I will look into it.

Thanks Kevin and Guyran! The fix works!

Thanks! However, I can't see out of the dark green front window very well. Does anyone know of a way to make it clear? Thanks,

Hi, I don't think there is much of a difference unless I made a note at the bottom of the notes saying version 1.0. or 1.1 or 1.2, etc,. I did keep adding more buttons as I got more updated photos from the East, however.

View File MiG-27M cockpit *and other thing* (TMF) Mig-23M cockpit (SFP1 series) made by Ordway, Starfighter2, lindr2 based on color cockpit photos and cockpit diagrams. Original cockpit made by Armourdave and Sal. Avionics and optional advanced flight model by Nele. You need avionics 70 and the latest patch updates from Thirdwire. Tested on Windows XP and not Vista. However it might work on Vista too. This is the cockpit for the Soviet MIG-27M ground attack fighter which would probably have been one of the first attackers against NATO in a NATO versus Soviet block confrontation in the 1970s and 1980s. It is referenced from color photographs and original cockpit diagrams. Full instructions in the read me Submitter ordway Submitted 02/10/2010 Category Jet Cockpits  

Yes, the brakes are only linked to an on or off brake button. However, for il-2, it is hard coded so that when you turn with the brakes on, it acts like differential braking to me so the aircraft turns a little like differential braking. By the way, I have had these rudder pedals for over a year and they are some of the best I have ever had (since 1991 or so when I had some made of wood!). These are strong, offer resistance, are realistic and I highly recommend them and feel a lot like the real airplanes I have flown since the early 1970s.

I'm with you Peter. The AI can be pretty good. When I fly the Neiuport 28 against Alb. D5s, they get altitude and boom and zoom me and won't get into a horizontal fight with me (theorectically, I should be able to out turn them.

New possible gunsight color-pale yellow in Mig-27D as a color photo showed:

Thanks!

Very nice, I have it working! Can I use it in my/your cockpit for release?

Thanks! I'm working on it! Alpha Mig-27K

Thanks!

Mig-27 Flogger D and Mig-27D ground attack fighter/bomber cockpits for SFP1 series now available for download. Mig-27D-(More geared for nuclear weapons and on standby alert like the F-111s) Mig-27-(first large scale production Mig-27 ground attack fighter) Available here: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=9749

View File MiG-27 (MiG-23BM) & MiG-27D Cockpits This is both the MiG-27(MiG-23BM) and MiG-27D dedicated ground attack fighter/bomber variant cockpits for SFP1 series Lindr2's MiG-27 Flogger D and MiG-27D available below: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6576 Thanks to Armourdave and Sal for the original cockpit. Thanks to Lindr2 and Epizikl for help with the cockpit research and photos. Full instructions in the Read Me(s) Enjoy! Submitter ordway Submitted 08/20/2009 Category Jet Cockpits  

Can you re download it? I might have been adding a link.