Dave

In fact I took this picture yesterday. If you look in the end of the weps bay door, that is where the rockets were kept on the Deuce.

Exactly, all depends on where you hit it. So to say 5 to 10 wouldn't harm a Flanker is inaccurate. 5 to 10 rounds can take out anything if its hit in the sweet spot.

LOL I know how that is. I am glad everyone liked them. As soon as I saw them I was thinking..."I know a group of guys who would love to see these."

What would it be and why? Anyone that says the "e" word...gets banned.....for 999 years......

Yes it was.

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=12147 Try this and or this http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=19172&hl= Also need to know what kind of plane, mission etc and rig specs. Finally try this if you haven't either http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=12148

That's putting it mildly 007.....

A few more

Got these pics today at the USAF Museum. I used the flash so you can see the detail. Enjoy

Most excellent find.

I have that very book too. Have to scan for C5 when I get back off leave. That is the only pic I have ever seen of it too. A rare artifact indeed. In regards to the Sader rocket pack. I am in total agreement with C5 on the realism side of it. Being an F-8 purist an all.

Well depends on what you are shooting it with. Cannons rounds, it only takes a few even one for that matter. People have to remember they are high explosive shells. The B-29's in Korea were known to blow up after a few hits from the Mig-15's cannons. Machine guns however are a different story.

As C5 said we decided against because as soon as they got to the fleet they were either sealed up or removed altogether.

Fellas these Saders are like 2 generations better than the previous ones. After the initial release we are looking at the F-8B/C too. Might as well have them all. But time will tell.

Merry Christmas to you all. And remember it is Christmas not Xmas......Jesus' last name was Christ not X.

The only problem with that though is now you can't have country unique weapons.

Great vid....if a USAF pilot did that though, he would never fly again.

Now on that note Sparky I got to see the cracks on 2 of those Albinos stuck here. Knowing what I know about machinery and mechanics. They are going to have to redo that whole section because a patch wont fix it. It's broke right in area that isn't easy to repair. I love the F-22, but not at the cost of 40,000 airmen. But on the flip side I think retiring older Eagles and getting new F-22's can't hurt.

They forget we are doing 100% of the heavy airlift. 80% to 90% of all the A2G support of the troops. Not to mention how every time I see and a soldier with a combat patch and they see that I am AF, they are thanking me in some way or another for air support they got in a bad situation. I told them that it wasn't me, but they wanted to thank someone in the AF. To re confirm you sparky, I talked to my wife (She is an Army SFC) and she said its very few over there that are doing 15 months. Its certain specialties that are getting long tours but it sure the hell isn't all of them. But the USAF isn't doing anything. Whatever. I am going to close this because now I am really irritated.

ndicki Welcome to Combatace. There is Knowledge Base we have put together that can answer 99% of any questions you have. I would check it you.

All depends on your job on how long you stay. We got people doing year tours over there, coming back for 2 to 6 months and doing another year over there. It sucks the Marines and Army are having to do 16 months over there.

Have you checked the download sections? There are 2 in there...

Streak no offense but you have been out for awhile. They way it was 10 years ago and now is night and day. While the Marines and the Army have taken the brunt of the war as far as personnel KIA, I get highly offended when it is implied that the USAF is not pulling its weight. Because you would be dead wrong. I have lost count the amount of personnel who are now on their 5th and 6th tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. My brother in law did 4 in Afghanistan alone. Oh and they aren't all going over there doing their jobs they came in and was trained to do....no, we are doing convoys with the Army, patrols with the Marines. Its s big s**t sandwich and the USAF is eating right along with everyone else. Each service has its bad somewhere, but what makes up for it is good leadership. I could work in a gulag all day if I had good leadership. That's what makes the difference and that is what sparky and I are getting at.

I was hoping you would catch that.

12th TFW is now the 12 Flying Training Wing http://afhra.maxwell.af.mil/rso/wings_grou...ges/0012ftw.asp It covers units assigned, locations etc etc etc.....