I never really understood the fight between F4 and Lock on, they are 2 different beast. It'll be like comparing Roseanne Barr against Jessica Biel they are totally different. Falcon has things that lock on doesn't have and still don't have after a few patches. Even having a better graphics engine the nights in lock on is nothing compared to F4, F4 looks way better. But F4 has some horrible graphics compared to lock on. F4 simulates 1 jet, well lock on does more then 5. Like you guys said, it's a game, we play it on the computer, it's a game. And like Rugg said, Mower seems like a die hard DCS fan now. I remember him always bashing lock on, but he has been spamming the ed forums over the last few weeks. I don't think the F4 fans are gonna bash DCS, but they might not be truly happy until they get a fighter, but that is how most of us feel. I said it beofre and I'll say it again, it's gonna be some years down the road until we have enough jets like in lock on.