+ghostrider883 Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Are'nt the Indian SU-30MKI's equipped with Canards ? The MKI version is equipped with Canards and TVC Nozzles. Su-30MKI : Canard Foreplanes:Canards are installed to increase lifting effectiveness and enhance manoeuvrability of the aircraft, They are deflected automatically to ensure controllable flight at high angles-of-attack. Thrust Vectoring Control: The 2D TVC makes an aircraft highly maneuverable. The aircraft is capable of near-zero airspeed at high angles of attack and dynamic aerobatics in negative speeds up to 200 km/h. Su-30MKI becomes the worlds first TVC equipped operational Fighter. The N011-M Bars phased array Radar is the most powerful Russian Radar on any exported Fighter. A multi-national Avionics complex sourced from Russia, France,Israel and India which include Display, Navigation, Targeting and Electronic warfare systems. The Su-30 MKI has a maximum range, with one in-flight refuelling, of 8000 km. The Su-30MK and Su-30MK-1 have a maximum range, with one in-flight refuelling, of 5200 km (35% less than MKI variant). More than 40 Su-30 MKI aircraft are currently serving in the IAF, and belong to different batches- Mk.1, Mk.2 and Mk.3. 190 Su-30 MKIs, of Mk.3 standards and beyond, are expected to be in service by 2012. Aerodynamics Su-30MKI aerodynamic configuration is an unstable longitudinal triplane. The canard increases the aircraft lifting and deflects automatically to allow high angle-of-attack flights. The integral aerodynamic configuration combined with thrust vectoring results in practically unlimited manoeuvrability and unique taking off and landing characteristics. The Su-30MKI has no level winged AoA limitations: it can fly at even 180 degree AOA (Angle of attack) and still recover. This high super-agility allows rapid deployment of weapons in any direction as desired by the crew. The canard notably assists in controlling the aircraft at large angles of attack (AoA) and bringing it to a level flight condition. The wing will have high-lift devices featured as deflecting leading edges and flaperons acting the flaps and ailerons. Youtube videos on SU-30MKI, interview with CO of No.20 Sqdn and its pilots. Edited February 23, 2007 by ghostrider883 Quote
Atreides Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 The MKI version is equipped with Canards and TVC Nozzles. Su-30MKI : Canard Foreplanes:Canards are installed to increase lifting effectiveness and enhance manoeuvrability of the aircraft, They are deflected automatically to ensure controllable flight at high angles-of-attack. Thrust Vectoring Control: The 2D TVC makes an aircraft highly maneuverable. The aircraft is capable of near-zero airspeed at high angles of attack and dynamic aerobatics in negative speeds up to 200 km/h. Su-30MKI becomes the worlds first TVC equipped operational Fighter. The N011-M Bars phased array Radar is the most powerful Russian Radar on any exported Fighter. A multi-national Avionics complex sourced from Russia, France,Israel and India which include Display, Navigation, Targeting and Electronic warfare systems. The Su-30 MKI has a maximum range, with one in-flight refuelling, of 8000 km. The Su-30MK and Su-30MK-1 have a maximum range, with one in-flight refuelling, of 5200 km (35% less than MKI variant). More than 40 Su-30 MKI aircraft are currently serving in the IAF, and belong to different batches- Mk.1, Mk.2 and Mk.3. 190 Su-30 MKIs, of Mk.3 standards and beyond, are expected to be in service by 2012. Aerodynamics Su-30MKI aerodynamic configuration is an unstable longitudinal triplane. The canard increases the aircraft lifting and deflects automatically to allow high angle-of-attack flights. The integral aerodynamic configuration combined with thrust vectoring results in practically unlimited manoeuvrability and unique taking off and landing characteristics. The Su-30MKI has no level winged AoA limitations: it can fly at even 180 degree AOA (Angle of attack) and still recover. This high super-agility allows rapid deployment of weapons in any direction as desired by the crew. The canard notably assists in controlling the aircraft at large angles of attack (AoA) and bringing it to a level flight condition. The wing will have high-lift devices featured as deflecting leading edges and flaperons acting the flaps and ailerons. Seeeeee (@FUBAR) Told you. Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) List of Su-30 variants: Su-27PU: Long range interceptor based on two-seater Su-27UB trainer. Later renamed Su-30. Su-30: Testbed fighter with canards added. Su-30M: Basically an upgraded Su-27PU, first real multi-role aircraft in Su-27 family. Su-30K: Commercial version of the basic Su-30. 10 units sold to India. Su-30KI: Sukhoi proposal for upgrading Russian AF single seat Su-27S. Also proposed export version for Indonesia, only single seat in Su-30 family. Su-30KN: Upgrade for operational two-seat fighters, the Su-27UB, Su-30 and Su-30K. Su-30MK: The commercial version of Su-30 first revealed in 1993. Su-30M2: upgraded Su-30MK with canards and TVC. Su-30MKA: Export version for Algeria Su-30MKI: Export version for India with TVC, canards. Su-30MKK: Export version for China Su-30MK2: Su-30MKK with upgraded electronics that enabled support for antiship missiles Su-30MK3: Su-30MKK with Zhuk MSE radar and Support for Kh-59MK antiship missile. Su-30MK2V: Su-30MK2 variant for Vietnam with minor modifications. Su-30MKM: Export version for Malaysia , The Su-30MKM is an export version that has been ordered by the Royal Malaysian Air Force. This highly specialised version is similar to the MKI, but will principally be equipped with French and Russian avionics. It will feature head-up and multifunction displays from the Thales Group and Sagem of France, as well as the Russian BARS NIIP N011M radar, which is equipped with Indian computers. Su-30MKV: Export version for Venezuela ,The export version that will serve in Venezuela's air force is most likely to be similar to the Su-30MK2. This is based on the presence of two such demonstrator models (No. 0460 and No. 1259) from the KNAAPO facility that took part in July 2006 national day parade in Caracas. http://racc.com.sapo.pt/MilIlYak/su27ub30/ Edited February 23, 2007 by ghostrider883 Quote
highlyflammable Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 i think the su-34 attack flanker is known as the platypus or i think the NATO name is the fullback Quote
Sky Captain Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Oh my GOSH Marc. I think I'm having a heart attack thinking about all that Flanker goodness... Quote
highlyflammable Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 two things a question i have is, is there an ETA on these? and in the way of wars, Ethiopian-Eritrian war of 1998-2000 would be one of the best wars beacause the fulcrums of Eritria were wasted by the flankers of Ethiopia Quote
sixer Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 hell ya it been a long time not even lockon can top that keep it up soon we will have the best flite sim ever I gess TK realy let the monster out of the box Quote
Marcfighter Posted February 24, 2007 Author Posted February 24, 2007 i wait for Moskit(SS-N-18 Sunburn wich nuke warhead!) hmmm i just thinking about one campaing .....War between US and Venezuela(Su-30 agains the CVN wich Moskit...) or Flanker VS Eagle or raptor..... XDDDD,but it is just a idea :rolleyes: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Sparker ! I like that idea! SU-30MK-2 Venezuela SU-30MKI India SU-30MK-1 India Correction of colors. Quote
Talos Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Man those are beautiful, I cannot wait to fly the 30MK and 33. Excellent work on these Flankers so far Marc, I think you've made me defect to the OPFOR. Of course the MiG-25/7 packages that just came out aren't helping either. Quote
Falcon161 Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Cant tell you how excited I am about the new flankers. Now all we need is the MIG-31, SU-25, and SU-39 before the OPFOR side is complete!. Keep up the good work macfighter! Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SU-30MKI India SU-30MK-1 India Correction of colors. Thanks a lot Marcelo...I am thrilled to see a Su-30MKI in SF In the recently concluded Aero India 2007 show, a Su-30MKI was painted in special scheme to celebrate 75th Anniversary of the IAF. Su-30MKI special anniversary scheme Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 I played around with the released Su-27, must say it has a great flightmodel!!! It was a nice fight against some F-14A`s great work keep them comin... Quote
eraser_tr Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 Didn't know they made a two seater with canards. Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) Marcelo, Any chance of replicating this bomb loadout on the Su-30MKI(12XFAB-250s)? Sparker, The air-to surface version of the Brahmos cruise missile for the Su-30MKI has not yet been made. The surface to surface missile is operational with frontline warships of the Indian Navy and some units of the Indian Army. The Air to surface version of the Brahmos will be much smaller that can be slung under the centerline pylon of the Su-30MKI. The Anti-ship missles used by the IAF on Su-30MKI are Kh-31A2(AS-17 Krypton) and Kh-59M(AS-18 Kazoo).I have got a pic of a Kh-31 being mounted on the wing of a 20 Sqdn Su-30MKI. Edited February 26, 2007 by ghostrider883 Quote
SayethWhaaaa Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 I tried but the main pylon was a bit too big for a triple rack. The lower bomb would slip into the runway itself. I'm currently using the twin bombracks and their clearance is fine... K, maybe not with the Mk82s, anything larger though might be a problem. These shots will give you an idea of the amount of room there is to play with: Quote
Marcfighter Posted February 26, 2007 Author Posted February 26, 2007 Marcelo,Any chance of replicating this bomb loadout on the Su-30MKI(12XFAB-250s)? Sparker, The air-to surface version of the Brahmos cruise missile for the Su-30MKI has not yet been made. The surface to surface missile is operational with frontline warships of the Indian Navy and some units of the Indian Army. The Air to surface version of the Brahmos will be much smaller that can be slung under the centerline pylon of the Su-30MKI. The Anti-ship missles used by the IAF on Su-30MKI are Kh-31A2(AS-17 Krypton) and Kh-59M(AS-18 Kazoo).I have got a pic of a Kh-31 being mounted on the wing of a 20 Sqdn Su-30MKI. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- like this ? Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Exactly Marcelo :) :D . Great Work!!!! Quote
Marcfighter Posted February 26, 2007 Author Posted February 26, 2007 Exactly Marcelo :) :D .Great Work!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you have drawings of the Kh-41 and Brahamos? Quote
Marcfighter Posted February 26, 2007 Author Posted February 26, 2007 Kh-31 are in the game. Brahmos is the same to Yakhont. Quote
serverandenforcer Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Now that's a big missile! So where do you sit on it? Just kidding. Quote
Atreides Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Now that's a big missile! So where do you sit on it? Just kidding. Dr.Strangelove eh ? Quote
+Crusader Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------like this ? how about some new weapon pylons for the MERs ? they look a little "out of place" on the missile pylons/rails ... MoonJumper Quote
Shin_kazama Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 Yes!!! SU-33 Sea Flanker SU-30Ki SU-34 Attack Flanker nice flanker variants were can i download these for my WoE game? tried the original flanker and it was good. now i want to try the newer canard equipped flankers and the bigger fighter bomber version of the flanker too. Quote
serverandenforcer Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 (edited) Dr.Strangelove eh ? Well, that's not where I was actually going with it. I just thought the missile was so freaken big that it's almost big enough to have a cockpit to fly it around. And why do I have a warning indicator underneath my ID tag on the left reading 0% but with 5 bars? Did I do something wrong? Edited February 27, 2007 by serverandenforcer Quote
raidenandsolid Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 negatory, the Warning feature is to only show what warning level you are at. If you are at 0%, then you are in the clear my good man. However, should it progress above that 0%, that means another person who uses these boards... i.e. moderators/admins/members/(i don't believe guests can do that) has reported you or something of like and therefore your warning level starts to increase.. and if I am correct at 100% you get banned from the forums correct? (like an auto-ban by the website forum itself?) Back to on topic.. Yea I seem to have an unusual fetish with canards.. so I will definitely be enjoying the Su-33 and Su-34. It would be interesting to see someone with spare time start slapping canards on the F-5, F-16, F-14 (might look a little bit weird)..,F-15 (well technically the F-15 S/MTD or ACTIVE had those but since I believe both were used for only testing purposes of the TVN so... anyway.. My point is.. it would be nice to see some basic aircraft fictionalized, in a sense WITH canards place somewhere on the craft. But then again this game promotes realism (still fictional definitely= ok with me) Quote
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