+SayethWhaaaa Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) So what do we know about it (J-21? J-31?) people? http://www.defensene...|text|FRONTPAGE Alls I know is that, if these photos circulating at the moment are legit and not more photoshopped crap that we often see, for once, this thing possibly looks like an F-22. Possibly... if legit. Edited September 20, 2012 by SayWhatt Quote
+Dave Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 http://combatace.com/topic/73575-new-chinese-stealth-fighter-f60/ Quote
Svetlin Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 So far it just brings up a quote to my mind: "... is a very mysterious and powerful device and it's mystery is exceeded only by it's power." Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 No... it's not that. I think that's the roughly JSF sized one Quote
+JediMaster Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Yeah, I've heard it's an F-35-sized F-22. Quote
Atreides Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Wonder what the real extent of the theft from LockMart was ? I mean it would be interesting to know how much of it was avionics related. For all we know it could just be a 1:1 static test model. Time will tell. I do however enjoy all the silly nonsense spewing on the F-16.net, they've gotten their thongs in a knot. :biggrin: Edited September 20, 2012 by Atreides Quote
macelena Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Saw one of those in Toys R Us. Won´t ever tell what i was doing there Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) This image: ...is of a remotely piloted aircraft for a UAV tournament, a technical expo for Chinese Universities funded (in part) by certain Chinese defence and aerospace contractors. It's not representative of any specific aircraft being developed by the Chinese apparently, at least, not in this exact form. And this: ...according to Key Publishing/Air International and a couple of other aerospace sources is apparently a static test airframe of the Hongdu L-15 as it's a apparently much smaller than than the aircraft I'm talking about, which is here: Edited September 24, 2012 by SayWhatt Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted September 24, 2012 Author Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) ...but then again, it's hard to trust the veracity of grainy photos from the interwebs, because photos of the allegedly 'new Chinese stealth fighter' like this one: ...have been bouncing around for years. All with a bit of an 'Ace Combat' feel. Then again, if it shows up on the PakDef forums, you can guarantee it's bogus. They contain more fantasy than World Of Warcraft... Edited September 24, 2012 by SayWhatt Quote
Atreides Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) The last one has long been determined to be CG. Pak defense is 90 % fantasy 10 % "The Indian Airforce sucks" or is it the other way around. Edited September 24, 2012 by Atreides Quote
+JediMaster Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 No, it's 90% "what the USA gives us" and 10% "what ISI manages to get others to do for them". Quote
Atreides Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 No, it's 90% "what the USA gives us" and 10% "what ISI manages to get others to do for them". My bad, I was referring to the PakDef forums and whats said on them and dare I say fantasised about. Quote
+SayethWhaaaa Posted September 25, 2012 Author Posted September 25, 2012 The last one has long been determined to be CG. Pak defense is 90 % fantasy 10 % "The Indian Airforce sucks" or is it the other way around. ...yeah, that was my point dude! (although, I would have guessed plastic) lol! I tell you though, Pak Def forums are great if you need a laugh. I particularly loved one thread where several dudes were shouted down and mocked for having the temerity to correct a thread that spoke of the PAF's J-11s currently in service. And another stating how the US should sell them F-22s... I can only assume for being the BEST US ALLY EVER!! Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I particularly loved one thread where several dudes were shouted down and mocked for having the temerity to correct a thread that spoke of the PAF's J-11s currently in service. And another stating how the US should sell them F-22s... I can only assume for being the BEST US ALLY EVER!! Kaaaaaaaaaafirrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! How dare you question Land of the Pure's Djinn powered acquisitions!!!!! You infidels are RAW agents out to malign the world's best Raptor killer Air Force!!!! LOL . Yup, I visit that place just to amuse myself and to see a bunch of jokers having wet dreams of how their Force, or for that matter their Army or Navy, beats the living daylights of the Indians everytime . Four and a half wars lost and they still don't want to wake up to reality !!!!! 1 Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Whats a "half war" Ghost ? The war, skirmish actually, that they lost for the Siachen glacier( Operation Meghdoot). Their "supposedly" elite SSG could not hold on to those heights against evil Yindu Kaafirs . Guess who was leading one of those failed SSG assaults on the kaafirs in SIachen in the late 80s?...... none other than Pervez "Busharraf" Musharraf. No wonder he was so desperate to avenge that humiliation by taking heights around Kargil in 1999. Again, he got his "Musharraf" handed back to him by the Kaafir Indian Forces . Edited September 26, 2012 by ghostrider883 Quote
+JediMaster Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Yeah, Pakistan will get F-22s. I believe the date for that is around 2105? Quote
Lexx_Luthor Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 Well the F-22 will be still be the top USAF fighter in 2105. Its amazing how things have slowed down. Quote
+JediMaster Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 No, by then we'll just use budgets to take down the enemy. After all, it's a big war now, it will still be then! Quote
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