FastCargo 412 Posted November 7, 2012 What, you thought this was about the B-2 or something? FC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+sophocles 1,345 Posted November 7, 2012 LOL! You can clearly see the lineage; even more evident when you look at individual parts .. I'm sad the F-5 family didn't evolve further; the F-20 tiger shark should have been adopted .. It was considered by many to have been a better fighter than the F-16 which it lost out to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gunrunner 314 Posted November 7, 2012 Maybe better at a time, but the F-16 had a clearer and easier growth path making it a better choice in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kodiak 27 Posted November 7, 2012 Come with me, and together we'll rule the skies!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar512 1,350 Posted November 7, 2012 It should be more like "I am your great-grandfather!" P-530, son of F-5, father of P-600 (AKA YF-17), grandfather of the F-18. http://wiki.scramble.../Northrop_P-530 More on the LWF program: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0236.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derk 265 Posted November 7, 2012 It should be more like "I am your great-grandfather!" P-530, son of F-5, father of P-600 (AKA YF-17), grandfather of the F-18. http://wiki.scramble.../Northrop_P-530 More on the LWF program: http://www.aerospace...nes/q0236.shtml Hi,hi, D-5305 was supposed to be a Dutch number..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar512 1,350 Posted November 7, 2012 Hi,hi, D-5305 was supposed to be a Dutch number..... The "Cobra" was meant to be an alternative to the F-104 for export sales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted November 7, 2012 Like the F-5G/20, the F-18L also never got an order. Unlike the Tigershark, it never got an actual flying model, though the YF-17 was "close enough". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SkateZilla 49 Posted November 7, 2012 I think the military channel aired a F-5A/T-38 Documentary last week, the last segment was saying the F-5 design went on to become the F-18 (through multiple changes). So technically the T-38 is the F/A-18E's Grandfather. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,356 Posted November 7, 2012 Could someone of the modelmakers create a YF-17? It was a very nice bird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar512 1,350 Posted November 7, 2012 Could someone of the modelmakers create a YF-17? It was a very nice bird. Yes, that would be cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted November 7, 2012 I think the military channel aired a F-5A/T-38 Documentary last week, the last segment was saying the F-5 design went on to become the F-18 (through multiple changes). So technically the T-38 is the F/A-18E's Grandfather. Yea, yea, that's just quibbling...:). I had known the F-18 was derived from the F-5, but what I didn't know until a few days ago was that when the N156F and N156T were being developed, that the N156T actually flew first because the USAF wanted the trainer version but didn't need the fighter version for it's own use and so it was fast tracked. Which means that the very first flight of the Northrop twin jet series was a T-38...so I just HAD to make something... And you notice the T-38 is in black...:). FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted November 7, 2012 Maybe better at a time, but the F-16 had a clearer and easier growth path making it a better choice in the long run. Also, the F-20 was near the end of it's potential growth cycle (being an F-5 derivative)...having split off earilier into what became the F-18 series. But, the F-16 was early in it's growth potential, having just been bought in significant numbers not long before. But probably the biggest thing against the F-20 was the F-16 already had a logistics tail established, which is a significant part of a weapon's system 'life cycle cost'. So, ironically, the F-20 lost because of a concept first championed by Northrop itself. FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thodouras95 25 Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) thanks for the lols :D and tbh, I did think about the B-2 (wow, wizard knows everything) Edited November 7, 2012 by thodouras95 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted November 7, 2012 Not to mention the F-20's major claim of "almost as good" was negated when the F-16 was approved for widespread export. Had that awful F-16/79 project been greenlit for some allies, I'm sure the F-20 would've trumped it in at least some places. When the regular engine was finally approved, though, not only was the 79 idea canned but the 20's fate was sealed as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toryu 156 Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Suits the feelings of that poor Bug better Edited November 8, 2012 by Toryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derk 265 Posted November 8, 2012 The "Cobra" was meant to be an alternative to the F-104 for export sales. .... yep, and they painted a mock up with Dutch roundels and a fake serial (actually the D serial was from the F-104G) hoping to attract orders from the F-104 users in Europe...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
