Bearwolf Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 first, I am not living in English-speaking world. So, My english isn't good. I think someone can't understand this or feel rudenees. But that's not I want. please understand this. I just wanna disappear Iron pipes(?) side of HUD.(attached jpeg) After 2 days I anguished, found something that 'not a problem from meshes.' It can disappear with only change of cockpit.ini, but I don't know how to do it. Please Someone help me! Quote
RogerSmith Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 why? That's how the cockpit is supposed to be. Press "Del" to turn off cockpit Quote
Bearwolf Posted January 28, 2013 Author Posted January 28, 2013 Only reason is Just I do not want see that. The plane I made has no pipe. You see external view, no pipe in cockpit. but you change to internal view, that pipe appear! That is rediculous. Quote
logan4 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 You can try to use some other cockpit which has a single glass windshield - unless you want to use the above for a specific reason. Might save your trouble. I think those mesh parts are actually part of the windshieldframe so you going to end up loosing more than you intend. Quote
Bearwolf Posted January 28, 2013 Author Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) Actually, I found a Cockpit.ini file in combatace.com. when i use that Cockpit ini file, disappear the pipe use the same mesh. But thae cockpit.ini file based on SF1 series, it can't realization what I want. I tried add some functions to the file I found, but it failed. F-5E Cockpit is best I think. but It's Texture is really bad... I don't know how to make textures, so I'm trying i can do.(I think this text has lots of grammar error.....) Edited January 28, 2013 by gomwolf Quote
+Wrench Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) they're called "frames" or supports. The reason you don't see them from the outside, is the cockpit is a seperate LOD from the aircraft's LOD. They're not associated with each other, per se. ============ if you use the 'move mesh trick' cockpit ini edits -and one needs to know EXACTLY which meshes are specfified*-, you'll leave huge gaps in the windshield, as that framing "supports" the canopy glass tga called for in the cockpit.lod perhaps if we knew which aircraft you're working on, suggestions for other cockpits could be made as to the textures "looking bad", well, that's really a fairly simple matter of repainting the existing ones. Just like doing an aircraft skin, you create a layered template and paint what you want. Out of curiosity, which "edited" cockpit ini are we talking about? I've "moved" lots of things for lots of cockpits -- *and as we no longer have access to ANY lods, its a moot point. unless one has access to 1stGen lods, or prelocked SF2 lods, and can use a hex editor ps: your english is quite good! Edited January 28, 2013 by Wrench Quote
+Stary Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 there was OLD Mig-29 stand in cockpit that used this method to remove the windshield framing IIRC, could be used here I guess? Sadly the OP is hard to clarify the poster's intentions the cockpit I was refering to: http://combatace.com/files/file/1493-mig-29a-cockpitzip/ notice how the framing is removed from it, could have use for you Quote
Bearwolf Posted January 28, 2013 Author Posted January 28, 2013 there was OLD Mig-29 stand in cockpit that used this method to remove the windshield framing IIRC, could be used here I guess? Sadly the OP is hard to clarify the poster's intentions the cockpit I was refering to: http://combatace.com...29a-cockpitzip/ notice how the framing is removed from it, could have use for you Yes. I used that file, so I think only editing can remove that 'frame'. If you use MIG29_Cockpit.ini file in that contents, you can remove frame even you useing in original meshes on SF2! But I don't know how it can remove it. Quote
Bearwolf Posted January 28, 2013 Author Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) they're called "frames" or supports. The reason you don't see them from the outside, is the cockpit is a seperate LOD from the aircraft's LOD. They're not associated with each other, per se. ============ if you use the 'move mesh trick' cockpit ini edits -and one needs to know EXACTLY which meshes are specfified*-, you'll leave huge gaps in the windshield, as that framing "supports" the canopy glass tga called for in the cockpit.lod perhaps if we knew which aircraft you're working on, suggestions for other cockpits could be made as to the textures "looking bad", well, that's really a fairly simple matter of repainting the existing ones. Just like doing an aircraft skin, you create a layered template and paint what you want. Out of curiosity, which "edited" cockpit ini are we talking about? I've "moved" lots of things for lots of cockpits -- *and as we no longer have access to ANY lods, its a moot point. unless one has access to 1stGen lods, or prelocked SF2 lods, and can use a hex editor ps: your english is quite good! Thanks Wrench. I love lots of your mods. Espacially, I really expect KAW Team's Korean War mod.My grand father was serviced in military at that time. I made a Campagin about korean war in korean SF series Community, I was so crude... I really expect KAW teams one! I'm poor 3d modeller. Actually, I learn 3ds max only 1 months. I have a plane model I can made, but cockpit isn't. 3D modelling is hard work to me... Hmmmm... Can you please help me found the threads how to make Texture of doing repainting? I have to learn this too. If you have some time, please thread about how to move Things of cockpits, too. Edited January 28, 2013 by gomwolf Quote
+Fubar512 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I believe that gomwolf is asking how to remove the windscreen frame from the cockpit model. If that's the case, you cannot. Firstly, all the model files (.lod files) are hidden in SF2. Secondly, lod files are uneditable, with the exception of texture associations (.bmp, jpg, tga, or dds). Only the developer of that model can modify the model file's source file (max file), and then export it as a lod file. Quote
+Wrench Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 That's not exactly true, Ed. Originally pioneered by ArmorDave, on the very first F-16s release a thousand years or so ago. I'd suggest looking at the Phantom Pit I used for the B-66. MASSIVE amounts of moves, use of "open cockpit' statment and lots of other unique things... Now mind you, it does use the 1stGen lod, which is stll accesable (and the SF2 lods DO use the same mesh names, btw). It it doable, via 'smoke and mirrors' 1 Quote
+Fubar512 Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Sorry wrench, but my statement is 100% true. Name me one TW cockpit .lod that you've seen modified beyond the texture limitations that I have already stated. And if you reread what I stated, its the lod itself he is asking about, not editing .ini files so as to rotate windscreen frames out-of-view and the like, which we have been doing for like 8-9 years now.. Quote
Wilches Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Wrench, I did mine B-66 cockpit using the S-3 cockpit, again with lots of moving parts and it looks much better than Phantom´s Give a try! There goes the S-3 cockpit coordinates to B-66: [CockpitData] Directory=Cockpit HUDMode=CAGED,AG RippleQuantity=1,2,3,6,12,18,24 RippleInterval=60,100,140 [GunsightFront] HasGunsight=TRUE GunsightMilSize=150 GunsightName=Sight.tga MaxDepression=250 DefaultDepression=50 [CockpitSeat001] ModelName=S-2_Pit.LOD ExternalClipDistMin=0.12 //HideExternalNodeName=Cockpit Position=-0.44,7.47,0.483 Offset=0.0,-0.20,-0.10 ViewAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 MaxYaw=160 MinYaw=-150 MaxPitch=90 MinPitchFront=-40 MinPitchRear=-30 LightRange=1.5 LightInnerConeAngle=40 LightOuterConeAngle=60 LightAngles=90.0,-35.0,0.0 DiffuseLightFactor=0.5 NightLightOn=0.25 NightLightColor=0.5,0.2,0.3 Gunsight=GunsightFront OpenCockpit=TRUE Instrument[001]=AirspeedIndicator Instrument[002]=Altimeter100 Instrument[003]=Altimeter1000 Instrument[004]=Altimeter10000 Instrument[005]=PitchSolid Instrument[006]=TurnIndicator Instrument[007]=SlipIndicator Instrument[008]=StandbyCompass Instrument[009]=ClockHour Instrument[010]=ClockMinute Instrument[011]=ClockSecond Instrument[012]=AttitudeIndicator Instrument[013]=Flapsindicator Instrument[014]=Tachometer1 Instrument[015]=Tachometer2 Instrument[016]=FuelPress1 Instrument[017]=FuelPress2 Instrument[018]=PitchIndicator Instrument[019]=RollIndicator Instrument[020]=ManifoldPressure1 Instrument[021]=ManifoldPressure2 Instrument[022]=OilPress1 Instrument[023]=OilPress2 Instrument[024]=OilTemp1 Instrument[025]=OilTemp2 Instrument[026]=FuelIndicator1 Instrument[027]=HSIWheel Instrument[028]=HSI_BearingMarker Instrument[029]=HSICourseArrow Instrument[030]=HSICOURSEDEVIATION Instrument[031]=RangeCounter Instrument[032]=CourseCounter Instrument[033]=RMIWheel Instrument[034]=RMI_BearingMarker Instrument[035]=CourseArrow Instrument[036]=Throttle1 Instrument[037]=Throttle2 Instrument[038]=Prop1 Instrument[039]=Prop2 Instrument[040]=RadarAltimeter Instrument[041]=CourseVSI Instrument[042]=CourseSideSlip Instrument[043]=GyroCompass Instrument[044]=CopilotAttitudeIndicator Instrument[045]=CopilotRMIWheel Instrument[046]=CopilotRMI_BearingMarker Instrument[047]=CopilotCourseArrow Instrument[048]=CopilotAirspeedIndicator Instrument[049]=CopilotTurnIndicator Instrument[050]=CopilotSlipIndicator Instrument[051]=CopilotAltimeter100 Instrument[052]=CopilotAltimeter1000 Instrument[053]=CopilotAltimeter10000 Instrument[054]=CopilotPitchSolid Instrument[055]=CopilotGyroCompass Instrument[056]=CopilotCourseVSI Instrument[057]=CopilotCourseSideSlip Instrument[058]=CopilotRadioCompass Instrument[059]=FuelIndicator2 Instrument[060]=LandingGearinLight Instrument[061]=LandingGearOUTLight Instrument[062]=RWR Instrument[063]=RadarScreen Instrument[064]=Move1 Instrument[065]=Move2 Instrument[066]=Move3 Instrument[067]=Move4 Instrument[068]=Move5 Instrument[069]=Move6 Instrument[070]=Move7 Instrument[071]=Move8 Instrument[072]=Move9 Instrument[073]=Move10 Instrument[074]=Move11 Instrument[075]=Move12 Instrument[076]=Move13 Instrument[077]=Move14 Instrument[078]=Move15 Instrument[079]=Move16 Instrument[080]=Move17 //--------------Pilot Gauges-------------------------- [AttitudeIndicator] Type=ATTITUDE_DIRECTOR_INDICATOR NodeName=ADIBall MovementType=ATTITUDE [HSIWheel] Type=MAGNETIC_COMPASS NodeName=HSICompass MovementType=ROTATION_z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=00.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [HSI_BearingMarker] Type=BEARING_MARKER NodeName=HSI_pointer MovementType=ROTATION_Y ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0 Set[01].Value=0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [HSICourseArrow] Type=COURSE_ARROW NodeName=HSICenter MovementType=ROTATION_z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=00.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [HSICourseDeviation] Type=COURSE_DEVIATION NodeName=CourseDeviation MovementType=POSITION_X ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0.018 Set[01].Value=-5.0 Set[02].Position=-0.018 Set[02].Value=5.0 [RangeCounter] Type=RANGE_INDICATOR CounterNodeFormat=Range_dig%d MovementType=ANALOG_COUNTER ValueUnit=NM [CourseCounter] Type=COURSE_ARROW CounterNodeFormat=Course_dig%d MovementType=ANALOG_COUNTER ValueUnit=DEG [AirspeedIndicator] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=needle_Speed MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=KNOTS Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=90.0 Set[02].Value=85.0 Set[03].Position=180.0 Set[03].Value=130.0 Set[04].Position=270.0 Set[04].Value=180.0 Set[05].Position=350.0 Set[05].Value=260.0 [RadarAltimeter] Type=RADAR_ALTIMETER NodeName=Needle_Radar_Alt MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=FEET Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=90.0 Set[02].Value=300.0 Set[03].Position=150.0 Set[03].Value=500.0 Set[04].Position=180.0 Set[04].Value=1000.0 Set[05].Position=2700.0 Set[05].Value=5000.0 Set[06].Position=300.0 Set[06].Value=20000.0 [GyroCompass] Type=GYRO_COMPASS NodeName=GyroCompass MovementType=Rotation_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [CourseVSI] Type=VERTICAL_VELOCITY_INDICATOR NodeName=CourseVSI MovementType=POSITION_Y ValueUnit=FPM Set[01].Position=-0.015 Set[01].Value=-6000 Set[02].Position=-0.010 Set[02].Value=-3000 Set[03].Position=0 Set[03].Value=0 Set[04].Position=0.010 Set[04].Value=3000 Set[05].Position=0.015 Set[05].Value=6000 [CourseSideSlip] Type=SIDESLIP_VELOCITY_INDICATOR NodeName=CourseSideSlip MovementType=POSITION_X ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0.015 Set[01].Value=-20.0 Set[02].Position=0.0 Set[02].Value=0.0 Set[03].Position=-0.015 Set[03].Value=20.0 [Altimeter100] Type=PRESSURE_ALTIMETER_2 NodeName=needle_alt_100 MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=FEET Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=1000.0 [Altimeter1000] Type=PRESSURE_ALTIMETER_2 NodeName=needle_alt_1000 MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=FEET Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=10000.0 [Altimeter10000] Type=PRESSURE_ALTIMETER_2 MovementType=ROTATION_Y CounterNodeFormat=alt_dig%d ValueUnit=FEET Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=10000.0 [PitchSolid] Type=PITCH_INDICATOR NodeName=needle_VSI MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=-175 Set[01].Value=-90 Set[02].Position=175 Set[02].Value=90 [TurnIndicator] Type=TURN_INDICATOR NodeName=needle_turn MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=-30.0 Set[01].Value=-10.0 Set[02].Position=0.0 Set[02].Value=0.0 Set[03].Position=30.0 Set[03].Value=10.0 [slipIndicator] Type=SIDESLIP_VELOCITY_INDICATOR NodeName=slipBall MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=15.0 Set[01].Value=-20.0 Set[02].Position=0.0 Set[02].Value=0.0 Set[03].Position=-15.0 Set[03].Value=20.0 [ClockHour] Type=CLOCK_HOUR NodeName=needle_hour MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=12.0 [ClockMinute] Type=CLOCK_MINUTE NodeName=needle_minute MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=60.0 [ClockSecond] Type=CLOCK_SECOND NodeName=needle_second MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=60.0 [Flapsindicator] Type=FLAPS_CONTROL_HANDLE NodeName=Needle_Flaps MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0 Set[02].Position=-45.0 Set[02].Value=1 Set[03].Position=-90.0 Set[03].Value=2 [standbyCompass] Type=Magnetic_COMPASS NodeName=STBYCompass MovementType=Rotation_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [Tachometer1] Type=Tachometer NodeName=needle_RPML ItemNumber=1 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=-150.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=80.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Tachometer2] Type=Tachometer NodeName=needle_RPMR ItemNumber=2 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=-170.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=80.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [ManifoldPressure1] Type=MANIFOLD_PRESSURE NodeName=needle_ManifoldL ItemNumber=1 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=70.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=250.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [ManifoldPressure2] Type=MANIFOLD_PRESSURE NodeName=needle_ManifoldR ItemNumber=2 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=90.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=250.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [OilTemp1] Type=Tachometer NodeName=needle_oiltempL ItemNumber=1 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=30.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-30.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [OilTemp2] Type=Tachometer NodeName=needle_oiltempR ItemNumber=2 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=30.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-30.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [OilPress1] Type=Tachometer NodeName=Needle_OilPressL ItemNumber=1 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=30.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [OilPress2] Type=Tachometer NodeName=Needle_OilPressR ItemNumber=2 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=30.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [FuelPress1] Type=Tachometer NodeName=Needle_FuelPressL ItemNumber=1 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=20.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 [FuelPress2] Type=Tachometer NodeName=Needle_FuelPressR ItemNumber=2 MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=20.0 Set[02].Value=1.0 //--------------Copilot Gauges----------------------- [CopilotAttitudeIndicator] Type=ATTITUDE_DIRECTOR_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_ADIBall MovementType=ATTITUDE [CopilotRMIWheel] Type=MAGNETIC_COMPASS NodeName=CP_RMIWheel MovementType=ROTATION_z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=00.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [CopilotRMI_BearingMarker] Type=BEARING_MARKER NodeName=CP_BearingMarker MovementType=ROTATION_z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0 Set[01].Value=0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [CopilotCourseArrow] Type=COURSE_ARROW NodeName=CP_COURSEARROW MovementType=ROTATION_z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=00.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [CopilotAirspeedIndicator] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_needle_Speed MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=KNOTS Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=90.0 Set[02].Value=85.0 Set[03].Position=180.0 Set[03].Value=130.0 Set[04].Position=270.0 Set[04].Value=180.0 Set[05].Position=350.0 Set[05].Value=260.0 [CopilotTurnIndicator] Type=TURN_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_needle_turn MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=-30.0 Set[01].Value=-10.0 Set[02].Position=0.0 Set[02].Value=0.0 Set[03].Position=30.0 Set[03].Value=10.0 [CopilotSlipIndicator] Type=SIDESLIP_VELOCITY_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_slipBall MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=15.0 Set[01].Value=-20.0 Set[02].Position=0.0 Set[02].Value=0.0 Set[03].Position=-15.0 Set[03].Value=20.0 [CopilotAltimeter100] Type=PRESSURE_ALTIMETER_2 NodeName=CP_needle_alt_100 MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=FEET Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=1000.0 [CopilotAltimeter1000] Type=PRESSURE_ALTIMETER_2 NodeName=CP_needle_alt_1000 MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=FEET Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=10000.0 [CopilotAltimeter10000] Type=CP_PRESSURE_ALTIMETER_2 MovementType=ROTATION_Y CounterNodeFormat=alt_dig%d ValueUnit=FEET Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=10000.0 [CopilotPitchSolid] Type=PITCH_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_needle_VSI MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=-175 Set[01].Value=-90 Set[02].Position=175 Set[02].Value=90 [CopilotGyroCompass] Type=GYRO_COMPASS NodeName=CP_Gyro MovementType=Rotation_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [CopilotCourseVSI] Type=VERTICAL_VELOCITY_INDICATOR NodeName=CourseVSI01 MovementType=POSITION_Y ValueUnit=FPM Set[01].Position=-0.015 Set[01].Value=-6000 Set[02].Position=-0.010 Set[02].Value=-3000 Set[03].Position=0 Set[03].Value=0 Set[04].Position=0.010 Set[04].Value=3000 Set[05].Position=0.015 Set[05].Value=6000 [CopilotCourseSideSlip] Type=SIDESLIP_VELOCITY_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_CourseSideSlip MovementType=POSITION_X ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0.015 Set[01].Value=-20.0 Set[02].Position=0.0 Set[02].Value=0.0 Set[03].Position=-0.015 Set[03].Value=20.0 [CopilotRadioCompass] Type=GYRO_COMPASS NodeName=CP_Needle_RadioCompass MovementType=Rotation_Z ValueUnit=DEG Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=360.0 Set[02].Value=360.0 [FuelIndicator1] Type=TOTAL_FUEL_QUANTITY_INDICATOR NodeName=Needle_FuelR MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=LB ItemNumber=1 Set[01].Position=50.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-50.0 Set[02].Value=3120.0 [FuelIndicator2] Type=TOTAL_FUEL_QUANTITY_INDICATOR NodeName=Needle_FuelL MovementType=ROTATION_Z ValueUnit=LB ItemNumber=1 Set[01].Position=50.0 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-50.0 Set[02].Value=3120.0 //-----------------Animations--------------------- [Throttle1] Type=THROTTLE_CONTROL NodeName=PowerSwitchL MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=-20 Set[01].Value=0 Set[02].Position=20 Set[02].Value=0.70 [Throttle2] Type=THROTTLE_CONTROL NodeName=PowerSwitchR MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=-20 Set[01].Value=0 Set[02].Position=20 Set[02].Value=0.70 [Prop1] Type=THROTTLE_CONTROL NodeName=UpperSwitchL MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=-10 Set[01].Value=0.8 Set[02].Position=10 Set[02].Value=1 [Prop2] Type=THROTTLE_CONTROL NodeName=UpperSwitchR MovementType=ROTATION_Z Set[01].Position=-10 Set[01].Value=0.7 Set[02].Position=10 Set[02].Value=1 //------------Lights--------------- [LandingGearinLight] Type=LANDING_GEAR_INDICATOR NodeName=GearLights MovementType=Light Set[01].Position=0.0 Set[01].Value=0 Set[02].Position=1.0 Set[02].Value=1 //--------RADAR----------------- [RadarScreen] Type=RADAR_SCOPE NodeName=RadarScreen //--------RWR----------------- [RWR] Type=RWR NodeName=RWR [Move1] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Hull MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=-9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=-9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move2] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Mainpanel MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move3] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=zSteering MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move4] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName= MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move5] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=EnginePanel01 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move6] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_ADIBall MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move7] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=ADIBall MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move8] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Alt_dig1 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move9] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=CP_Alt_dig1 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move10] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Course_dig3 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move11] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Course_dig2 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move12] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Course_dig1 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move13] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Range_dig3 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move14] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Range_dig2 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move15] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Range_dig1 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move16] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=Box05 MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 [Move17] Type=AIRSPEED_INDICATOR NodeName=zSteeringWheel MovementType=POSITION_Z Set[01].Position=9 Set[01].Value=0.0 Set[02].Position=9 Set[02].Value=1.0 Quote
+Wrench Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 ed: yes, indeed! how true! wilches: you're forgetting one major thing... Destroyer crews did NOT sit side-by-side up front. The pilot was all by hisself, offset to the left as shown. Just like it's Navy brother, the Skywarrior. The right side was taken up by 'black boxes and electrircal panels. Hence, the use of the slightly less inaccurate Phatnom pit Quote
Wilches Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 You´re right Wrench... I didn´t see this cockpit shot wich says it all. Could you show your F-4 cockpit data for it please? Quote
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