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Hello all!!!! 

So I'm building my picture/model collection of the Fitter family, however I can't find anywhere any references for the Su-17M2 cockpit!! Was it all grey? Or black panel and grey like the M? The sole picture I have is from a wall poster, I'll add it below. If anyone has a genuine picture of a Su-17 M2 cockpit I'd greatly appreciate it.

 

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This is the only "picture" of a Su-17M2 cockpit I can find anywhere!!! Only I don't trust it!! 

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23 minutes ago, 76.IAP-Blackbird said:

I believe Enoc can answer it :biggrin:

I hope so!!!!! IM DYING TO FIND OUT!!! 

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59 minutes ago, 76.IAP-Blackbird said:

I believe Enoc can answer it :biggrin:

 

36 minutes ago, Pepelev said:

I hope so!!!!! IM DYING TO FIND OUT!!! 

Me neither, looks more like a representation on how it is

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6 hours ago, FLOGGER23 said:

 

Me neither, looks more like a representation on how it is

Exactly, plus being a first gen Su-17 I'd have thought it would have been black and grey 

 

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This is a Su-22M4 cockpit. But the colors of the cockpits of the soviet planes were always the same, when they were delivered. It was a kind of blue-grey ( maybe turquoise). It was said, that this color was best for the eyes, "not as exhausting to the eyes".

Later, in the units the cockpits often were repainted into black, or what color they had.

All soviet cockpit panels have on thing in common. It is the so called "T". All instruments, which were essential to fly the planen were framed with a small white line.

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Here you see the stick and the framed instruments better.

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The throttle.

Edited by Gepard

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On 9/11/2019 at 11:48 PM, Pepelev said:

Su-17M2 cockpit!! Was it all grey? Or black panel and grey like the M? The sole picture I have is from a wall poster, I'll add it below. If anyone has a genuine picture of a Su-17 M2 cockpit I'd greatly appreciate it.

Your picture shows the cockpit equipped with ASP-17 type sight, Sirena-3 type RWR, old-type weapon controls and the Nav Computer control..

Not all visible clearly...

The 17M2/ 22 was the first Fitter with ASP-17 and with Doppler + Nav Computer

The cockpit area on the upper end of the panel doesnt match the later M3/M4 layout/shape

So yes, I'd say the pic shows a Su-17M2 / Su-22 cockpit.

For the color, Sukhoi Fitters seem to have a often used config of grey cockpit with black panel, here is a example of a Su-20 Fighting_Fitter on Twitter

EDIT: ok.. seems to be your T-bird account ...  :)

Edited by Crusader

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On 14/10/2019 at 9:49 PM, Crusader said:

Your picture shows the cockpit equipped with ASP-17 type sight, Sirena-3 type RWR, old-type weapon controls and the Nav Computer control..

Not all visible clearly...

The 17M2/ 22 was the first Fitter with ASP-17 and with Doppler + Nav Computer

The cockpit area on the upper end of the panel doesnt match the later M3/M4 layout/shape

So yes, I'd say the pic shows a Su-17M2 / Su-22 cockpit.

For the color, Sukhoi Fitters seem to have a often used config of grey cockpit with black panel, here is a example of a Su-20 Fighting_Fitter on Twitter

EDIT: ok.. seems to be your T-bird account ...  :)

Thanks for clearing it up!!! And yah it's my Twitter account ;) what's your T bird account? Dm me and I'll add you 

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