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(re)birth of a carrier

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VonBeerhofen    40

VonBeerhofen
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8 hours to unravel it's R/S secrets and 8 more to tweak the model into a light fleet/escort cariier. From here the model can be turned into any carrier class or split up into a multipart model. As a single 3DZ it can be a moving interdiction target (not landable) as well as a static target in harbours or alongside the coast. This is just a start as the model will be turned into a 100% model and It's texture will be upgraded soon.

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EscortCarrier1.jpg

This picture shows the R/S check of a beached carrier with a few additions already :) The model will be added to PTIV as the new EAWPRO exe has freed a slot for an extra ship.

EscortCarrier2.jpg

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RIBob    26

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How "Configurable"--by you, not a user-- will this be?  For instance, most all WW II carriers were not of modern slant-deck configuration.  Also, toward the end of WW II, Fleet carriers had LOADS of AA armament installed, making them a very tough target to attack, at least if the pilot wanted to survive.  Presumably such AA armament would come into play once an enemy (or unlucky friendly) aircraft came into range.

What are the structures on the deck?  Test device of some sort?

I wonder if this vessel will be "scalable" in that the basic model can be used (with some minor changes) as an escort carrier, light carrier, and/or full-sized Fleet carrier?  

Looking forward to your creations, as always.

RIBob 

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VonBeerhofen    40

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Update! Slanted lines were replaced with a straight line, 2 canon positions with 4 canons and radar tower  were added. Users have no control over 3D models unless they learn how to create them. All intermediate stages in the build were saved so other models can easily be derived from them .One thing is certain these new models will not suffer from any R/S anomalies like some other carriers do. 

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EscortCarrier5.jpg

EscortCarrier4.jpg

 

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Jel    38

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On 12/2/2019 at 5:13 PM, VonBeerhofen said:

One thing is certain these new models will not suffer from any R/S anomalies like some other carriers do.

Some other carriers actually look like WW2 carriers.

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VonBeerhofen    40

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Pretty condscending and hostile remark but I have those carriers too, they came from Fleet Defender, but I don't know what this is supposed to represent. If it's a WWII carrier then it needs a lot of fixing, some antenae and canons may also be an improvement:

CarrierTower.jpg

Anyway, what I have can be turned into any shape as the pictures show, and I'm not finished by a long way but it's getting there:

Kiev0.jpg

Kiev1.jpg

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RIBob    26

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13 hours ago, Jel said:

Some other carriers actually look like WW2 carriers.

I don't think that comment was necessary, particularly in view of a work in progress.  VBH has access to all the relevant pix of various WW Ii carriers, and I am sure his final product(s) will differ considerably from these initial pix.

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rotton50    15

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"One thing is certain these new models will not suffer from any R/S anomalies like some other carriers do."

Leave off the "like some other carriers do" comment and then it would be a true statement with no condescension.

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"Some other carriers actually look like WW2 carriers."

This statement did not say that the posted carrier looked bad, only that it didn't look like a WWII carrier. Which, at this point it doesn't.

I hope the moderator can see the difference.

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RIBob    26

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1 hour ago, rotton50 said:

 

"One thing is certain these new models will not suffer from any R/S anomalies like some other carriers do."

Leave off the "like some other carriers do" comment and then it would be a true statement with no condescension.

vs

"Some other carriers actually look like WW2 carriers."

This statement did not say that the posted carrier looked bad, only that it didn't look like a WWII carrier. Which, at this point it doesn't.

I hope the moderator can see the difference.

It is this sort of bickering that causes me, and certainly others, to move away from any sort of EAW-based game, and onto other, newer, platforms, where the modders do not try to crucify one another.

You people are poisoning your own well.

 

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VonBeerhofen    40

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That trick was used on me before in SimHQ and it's intentions seems clear enough to me. In Rotton's own words "some constructive criticismcan should be tolerated", so let's just carrier on. Debating which carrier looks like a WWII carrier or not is futile, especially within EAW's limitations. If someone thinks there's something wrong then I'm willing to change it, that is when I agree ofcourse. As I said it can be turned into ANY shape. Added some more detail, :)

VonBeerhofenEscortCarrier3.jpg

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Jel    38

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My original post was made because VBH chose to post a snide comment re- "other carriers", which was completely unnecessary.
As usual he fired the first shot that provoked a response. Had he not made that choice I would have not posted my comment.

At the time of my post his pictures showed carriers with angled flight decks, so my comment was accurate.
When I visited the Yorktown it had an angled flight deck, but that was added in 1960
That may well change, all for the better :smile:

 

 

 

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MarkEAW    11

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3 hours ago, VonBeerhofen said:

That trick was used on me before in SimHQ and it's intentions seems clear enough to me. In Rotton's own words "some constructive criticismcan should be tolerated", so let's just carrier on. Debating which carrier looks like a WWII carrier or not is futile, especially within EAW's limitations. If someone thinks there's something wrong then I'm willing to change it, that is when I agree ofcourse. As I said it can be turned into ANY shape. Added some more detail, :)

VonBeerhofenEscortCarrier3.jpg

Keep going VBH. Thats a solid looking model.

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rwatson    21

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Well it looks solid to me the quad guns are a nice touch anything you modders publish are welcome But We could do without the sniping..I fly things from both camps and enjoy them for their own charms

 

 

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My bothers could we skip the peeing contest and just enjoy our girl for whats she is worth put aside the squabbles and just fly as we we where to do to do as for me time to take a time out from out hobby I can't take the B.S, from each side so best to say sayanoria and wish you well with your squabbles Good bye

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