Question re: AWACS & JSTARS

[Trent0001]

Hi. Apart from aesthetics, is there an actual tactical advantage of having AWACS &/or JSTARS in a mission? Do they allow aircraft or ground targets to be detected at greater ranges?

[+EricJ]

No, unfortunately the game doesn't support JSTARS type imagery or coordination. The closest you get to "AWACS" is the occasional call by Red Crown of bogies and so on. But no real AWACS or even Link-16 style datalink.

[JosefK]

It's just good aesthetics at this point...

[Trent0001]

No problems, thank you. 😀

Edited June 12, 2020 by Trent0001

[UllyB]

2 hours ago, Trent0001 said:

Hi. Apart from aesthetics, is there an actual tactical advantage of having AWACS &/or JSTARS in a mission? Do they allow aircraft or ground targets to be detected at greater ranges?

Even if there is no real AWACS coordination into the game , you can try, for a change and atmosphere, to adapt my AWACS mod, from SF1, to SF2. (I will make a proper AWACS mod for SF2 , too, but is not in my to do list for now). Check them out here: 

 

In it you lead , in a recon mission, a group of 3  (or more) aicraft, but one of it is AWACS (the one you fly it), the rest are the escort. You set, for your plane (the AWACS), the easyradar and then you can lock on everything on the map, emulating exactly like an AWACS could. Being a recon miission you will have almost max of enemy flights on the map and , at some moment one flight will see/detect and accelerate (even fire at) to get you. You can  give specific order to engage plane on your path (this time at "WINGMAN" commands TWO escort planes will react , instead of one , making things interesting. If your escort has more planes wingman command will affect the No2 and No3 planes, the rest will correspond to the flights you have with you in the mission. It's fun and challenging to come back in one piece or with the whole escort untouched. Remember you need to have SOVIET formation activated (it takes 3 planes in formation instead of 4) and to tweak a little the Formation.ini file  (to make them fly steady and parallel with you for instance). If interested I stand ready to assist.

Edited June 12, 2020 by UllyB

[+Veltro2k]

Again, its a shame that thirdwire gave up on this game too early 

[+strahi]

I marked, AircraftRole = BOMBER

and add lines 

[LevelBombAI]
ReleaseAlt=6096.0
ReleaseCount=24
ReleaseInterval=0.1

now all AWACS flight is on much higher altitude, the problem that still exists is in the campaign. How to generate more of these EARLY_WARNING fligts. What determines their appearance? 

[UllyB]

17 minutes ago, strahi said:

I marked, AircraftRole = BOMBER

and add lines 

[LevelBombAI]
ReleaseAlt=6096.0
ReleaseCount=24
ReleaseInterval=0.1

now all AWACS flight is on much higher altitude, the problem that still exists is in the campaign. How to generate more of these EARLY_WARNING fligts. What determines their appearance? 

I just changed altitude entries in MISSIONCONTROL.INI:

[Altitude]
Normal=7000
Low=1500
VeryLow=100
High=9000
VeryHigh=12000

 

and they fly high enough. All flights.

[PeacePuma]

About 10 years ago, I proposed designing an AWACS mod for SF1 with the B707 CONDOR (IAI 707 PHALCON) in mind ... the idea is to give that feature to a participant for an online game ... using the F-5F technique or the current tonka, could alternate between the cabin and the controller, and for the latter the avionics considered rwr mobile maps, symbols and everything available in the sim for this function, obviously we will not reach as much as a data link, but it would be an entertaining feature for online combat

 

 

[DEVIL11]

15 hours ago, Trent0001 said:

No problems, thank you. 😀

Where did u find this plane at 

[Trent0001]

11 hours ago, DEVIL11 said:

Where did u find this plane at 

Hi. I made it as a stand-in for an RAAF E-7A Wedgetail, using Veltro2K's E-767 with acesfakia's MESA radar added. If I get permission I might put it up. I've never uploaded anything before. ☺

[DEVIL11]

4 hours ago, Trent0001 said:

Hi. I made it as a stand-in for an RAAF E-7A Wedgetail, using Veltro2K's E-767 with acesfakia's MESA radar added. If I get permission I might put it up. I've never uploaded anything before. ☺

Awesome thank u

[+SayethWhaaaa]

12 hours ago, Trent0001 said:

Hi. I made it as a stand-in for an RAAF E-7A Wedgetail, using Veltro2K's E-767 with acesfakia's MESA radar added. If I get permission I might put it up. I've never uploaded anything before. ☺

Whomever needs to okay this, for the love of all that is holy, please give it! This is a thing of beauty!

[UllyB]

If he signed the combatace convention (I don't know the official name of it but there is one here around on this website) technically one doesn't need approval, just it needs to mention the CREDIT to the author for it. At least that's what Wrench once told me when I asked the same question.

[Trent0001]

I'm putting it together now, i'll submit it shortly. :-)

[+SayethWhaaaa]

Loving it already, bud! :)