+yakarov79 11,266 Posted December 29, 2024 I just read all the above..and some people live in different dimensions... Quote ut the dollar exchange rate is very high in my country ....sorry for that..but then, we should be sorry for everyone from Europe or Asia and Africa, I do not want to think exchange rate on Ceres or Io... We all have problems, fu...k Quote So, they are not freeware anymore. Why? Mods are still freeware. Think of it as paying for a transfer...But mods are free. And for those whining about every peso, centavo or whatever...Modders are paying a high cost for this. They are spending their time, making models, skins, and terrains..for years. And no one is paying for it. Only modders. If you think that model can be for free.... then you are wrong. If something is free it means someone else had to pay for it...In this case - modder..he paid using his time. 5 free downloads? NO Erik was paying for your 5 free downloads... So to all whiners..Enjoy free mods..and pay subscription. First, 2 persons who will reply to me here..and send a nice pm..I will pay for you 1month choice membership $9.95.... and stop whining for dog's sake... Quote 715 of those accounts have more than 5 accounts associated to them. Our top offender has 44 accounts associated to them Holly Crap... 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsqif_Ivan 3 Posted December 30, 2024 15 hours ago, Erik said: The current count is: 3,631 accounts on this site have more than one account. 715 of those accounts have more than 5 accounts associated to them. Our top offender has 44 accounts associated to them. well that's explain a lot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsqif_Ivan 3 Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) On 29/12/2024 at 2:44 PM, Muesli said: Welcome to the CA clan, That's unfortunate timing... but you can probably figure out by yourself that there will be no exceptions to the (new) rules. It has been a long time coming, and 'labour of love' doesn't pay bills... You can still do a 1 month subscription to give it a try. It doesn't break the bank and gives you the trial you want, and also you add a bit of moolah to the piggy bank. Enjoy your stay and enjoy your game. well i just waiting for myself to get main income, 9 dollars are bit too high for Indonesia and for myself, and the tax just went up to 12%, hope i don't forget i have CA to get my first subscription long live modders! Edited December 30, 2024 by Tsqif_Ivan 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recall123 2 Posted January 2 Heyo, first time messaging here but i think this is quite disappointing because I got into SF2 last year after a few friends recommended it for me and i had a lotta fun with NATO Fighters, ODS and some other mods. Its a shame that this happened but its fair enough after reading about the reason behind it. Wish there was some other way and I will definitely be keeping an eye of Combatace but I can't justify another subscription. Thanks for extending the amount of fun i had with SF2 and I hope you all the best in the new year, hopefully you will find another way to let people like me who wont pay for a subscription download mods but yea. Godspeed everyone and thanks again for the mods 07. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KJakker 910 Posted January 6 (edited) Erik, what is the actual cost of data transferred when a download is made from the site per unit of data? I was thinking if in addition to the unlimited data time based tiers you could also offer a set of subscriptions based upon a set amount of data. Having the two different systems might offer more flexibility for site members ability to pay for access. Edited January 6 by KJakker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Erik 1,936 Posted January 7 @KJakker There are too many variables to base subscriptions that way. Designing a system to fairly account for such restrictions would be mind-numbingly obscene. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Menrva 4,257 Posted January 11 1 hour ago, zak1616 said: Okay you greedy fucks ! you wants money for free mods ?! you will got nothing i am gonna upload many mods for free on moddb and you cant do shit about it ! I'm known and active on ModDB. You dare upload my mods over there without permission, and I'll have you banned from there as well. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gaznaw 0 Posted Thursday at 08:04 PM (edited) Hi to all the community. I understand perfectly the reasons why the owner of this site has decided to take drastic measures, limiting downloads only to paid subscriptions. It is unbelievable what some users did to cheat the established limit. However, I wanted to present an alternative to such extreme measures, assuring that newcomers can test mods and decent users from all around the world can still enjoy them as well free of cost. Lowering the download limit to only one (1) a day would significantly lower the costs of maintaining the site for the owner and discourage unscrupulous leechers from opening so many accounts, while still allowing other users to test and enjoy mods for free. When I started playing SF2 - a few months back - I would wait anxiously for the hours to pass so I could come back to the site and search for new mods. It was a satisfying moment. Please consider this alternative and hope you all have a great 2025. Thanks anyway to all the modders and the community. Edited Thursday at 08:07 PM by gaznaw error Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muhammad 3 Posted 20 hours ago very interesting!! so whats the point of having freeware "community" mods? i understand the problems of maintaining the website and the database but the fact is, its impossible for some of us to purchase a subscription because of our countries. for example i live in Middle East, Iran. there's no way for me to purchase a subscription at all ! although i really love to help and donate. so basically with all respect, from now this community (for SF series) is dead for me. and as long as there's no other alternatives to CA, so the game is dead for me. this is not whining Yakarov79 it's objection, it's something that people like you might never understand. anyway, with all respect to CA and mod authors and other modders, paying for freeware without having any other free plans is unacceptable. my advice is to set the download limit to 2 or 1 per day for each regular account as "free plan" with more download speed limit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+logan4 860 Posted 20 hours ago (edited) Muhammad, just one question... If you are not able to get a subscription due to location, how your ability to donate would work? Somewhat contradicts the first statement... beside that, if in reality enough people would chim in by donations every year there would be no need for curtailing anything. Technicaly the mods are free, but the site need to keep the lights on, so thats where any amount of donation come in combined with the subscriptions which should be able to cover the expenses. This is not the case. Last year there was only 400USD donation by a single person. Yearly target was 4400USD or so. Only 9% of the minimal expenses which not even includes site upgrades,etc. The missing ammount on the tab has to be picked up by someone. In ideal circumstances, if every member donate just 1 USD a month we would not have this topic. Everyone likes free stuff. The sad reality of the world is, the only free things are the light of the sun, the air you breath, being kind and the thousands/millions of ideas someone can make up in their own head. For the rest in today's society all comes down to money or items exchanged. It sucks, but thats what we have to live with untill money will finally gets abolished from the system of the world... Edited 19 hours ago by logan4 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muhammad 3 Posted 19 hours ago Just now, logan4 said: Muhammad, just one question... If you are not able to get a subscription due to location, how your ability to donate would work? Somewhat contradicts the first statement... logan4, don't change the subject man, i don't remember i said "i can do it". just mentioned that "i like to" because i like CA and their modders and been here for happy 2 years and the experience was fun. but as a user if i had a way to do so, i definitely would but there's no way for me to do it. and anyway, if nobody's donating anything or that much to the website dev team, its not my problem. payed content which they include freeware huh? so whats the point of "free plan" and freeware licenses AND freeware content overall quality? maybe CA have to focus more on other sims like DCS of BMS and increase it's activity to keep the community alive rather than loosing users. my advice is to have free plan with more limitations including speed limitations for downloads plus more ads rather than locking-up the whole place, just like other communities. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Muesli 2,209 Posted 19 hours ago 4 minutes ago, muhammad said: logan4, don't change the subject man, i don't remember i said "i can do it". just mentioned that "i like to" because i like CA and their modders and been here for happy 2 years and the experience was fun. but as a user if i had a way to do so, i definitely would but there's no way for me to do it. and anyway, if nobody's donating anything or that much to the website dev team, its not my problem. payed content which they include freeware huh? so whats the point of "free plan" and freeware licenses AND freeware content overall quality? maybe CA have to focus more on other sims like DCS of BMS and increase it's activity to keep the community alive rather than loosing users. my advice is to have free plan with more limitations including speed limitations for downloads plus more ads rather than locking-up the whole place, just like other communities. "... it's not my problem." Okay, clear. So... YOU living in Iran or anywhere else is not Erik's problem as well... So... bye bye and thank you for all your contributions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muhammad 3 Posted 18 hours ago (edited) Just now, Muesli said: Okay, clear. So... YOU living in Iran or anywhere else is not Erik's problem as well... So... bye bye and thank you for all your contributions! so what do you want me to do with it? i just told my reason to not donating or purchasing stuff and i said there are some users like me which we have limitations due to our regions. i'm just giving advises. which i think you guys proved that its not important at all. happy flights and landings. peace. Edited 18 hours ago by muhammad 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jimbib 773 Posted 18 hours ago @gaznaw and @muhammad, I understand where you're both coming from with restricting the free accounts to less downloads / slower speeds and whilst this will help alleviate the traffic on the servers in the short terms, it would be susceptible to the current exploitation that some are doing with multi-accounting: Up until now, if someone wants to download 20 files without waiting, they will just create 4 x accounts (which get 5 free downloads per day). Under a new system of 1 file download per day, they will just create 20 duplicate accounts to get around the system to get the same 20 files. Slowing down and putting barriers in people's way unfortunately won't decrease the cost to Erik every year of $4,000-$5,000 just to keep the lights on and the website running, what's needed is people willing to contribute to help him out so he doesn't have to pay it all himself. It has been covered elsewhere in the recent threads but there's no big company / money machine behind CA pulling the strings, it doesn't make any profit but instead is operated purely for the enjoyment of others. It's all on the shoulders of Erik and a few generous donors like @logan4 said, and he needs our help. I actually feel there are some startling double standards going on between SF2 and other flight sims out there with modding communities. I see no shortage of either payware or mod websites that require monthly subscriptions to access the libraries for the likes of DCS or MSFS, but somehow people are more than willing to pay to get access to mods for those games but believe that SF2 should be essentially be a free bar? Or how about the actual cost of entry to SF2? It's never been a 'cheap' game and TK only did a few discounts over the years. I somehow struggle to believe that if everyone has been paying the longstanding $40 price for any of the SF2 games (or $100 for whole bundle) that they can't chuck a few dollars in the bucket to help Erik out? Sorry but that doesn't add up to me. If anyone thinks they can do better than CA, then I implore you to open your own community website, and foot the bill of storing gigabytes worth of mods and terabytes worth of traffic, for twenty years, by yourself. Please let us all know how that goes for you. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,988 Posted 12 hours ago @muhammad: since it seems impossible for you to help support the site financially, I'm really curious as to HOW you were able to obtain (or purchase) the game itself from 3rd Wire. As there must be some kind of blockage for monetary transfers between Iran and the Western World (partucularly to the United States). I'm not going to say the "p"word, but ... people might be wondering. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muhammad 3 Posted 12 hours ago @Wrench yeah definitely "p". what else? what did you expect? at least i didn't make like 5 accounts to override the download limit and i always respected the mod authors like you and others, i even tried to make some mods yet i was not successful. if you like to report or ban or whatever, no problem at all, you're the boss man, and this platform is not gonna be usable or useful for me anymore. anyway this is getting far from the subject 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jimbib 773 Posted 11 hours ago 19 minutes ago, muhammad said: @Wrench yeah definitely "p". what else? what did you expect? at least i didn't make like 5 accounts to override the download limit and i always respected the mod authors like you and others, i even tried to make some mods yet i was not successful. if you like to report or ban or whatever, no problem at all, you're the boss man, and this platform is not gonna be usable or useful for me anymore. anyway this is getting far from the subject So on one hand you object (your words above) to CA seeking financial help to stay online instead of being forced to shut down, but on the other hand you're openly admitting and seem somewhat smug about pirating TK's games, so you basically want everything for free and everyone else can pay for it, yet it's other people that are the problem? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muhammad 3 Posted 9 hours ago @Jimbib im not seeking financial help, im defending the freeware policies. its not only about me. it doesn't even matter how i'm here guys, All i wanted to do was to share some ideas and now i understand that the main problem is not even important for you guys at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Muesli 2,209 Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, muhammad said: @Jimbib im not seeking financial help, im defending the freeware policies. its not only about me. it doesn't even matter how i'm here guys, All i wanted to do was to share some ideas and now i understand that the main problem is not even important for you guys at all. Wow!!! How courageous and magnanimous! You want a pat on the shoulder? A sticker for in your poetry album? You are just ruminating and regurgitating all the things that have already been said and that have already been debunked. If you do live in Iran... I suggest that you start defending TRUE liberties (like women's rights and real freedom) instead of being a true keyboard warrior... Dumbass... Edited 8 hours ago by Muesli spelling 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+logan4 860 Posted 6 hours ago 12 hours ago, muhammad said: logan4, don't change the subject man, i don't remember i said "i can do it". just mentioned that "i like to" 13 hours ago, muhammad said: although i really love to help and donate The subject was not changed. I don't have major of any degree in english. To me your sentence in that form 'implied' that you can/could/maybe able to donate.. The - "I like to" or "I love to" - phrases mean, somebody actively participating from time to time in that something.. if they contain an extra word such as "would" then it would/might imply that although the person have intentions/wish to do something, yet is unable to execute/taking part of it at the time of the talking. I can be perfectly wrong in my understanding, but willing to learn from the more educated ones. No hard feelings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
