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Here's a Thanksgiving Present (for those old enuf to remember such things) I worked on the SU-33 Data file and got it to work better. I only tested it with a full weapon & fuel load doing basic moves/ not tried to dogfight it yet. I assume it would turn better mostly empty. It turns better and roll is more controllable. The Su-33 ought to be the or one of the top large frame AirToAir combat aircraft (non-stealth) worldwide. Easy to beat AIs in SF2. One thing, The ailerons were set (in my file anyway) to move on the Z axis, which looked funny in camera mode. Set that to X axis and most is right again. Oh, the "Su-27SM2" download (think I found it in one of the Campaigns previously mentioned) maneuvers excellently right out of the box. I tried some of its values in the SU33 datafile. I think I might make a SU33Data file using an entire Su-27SM2 datafile. Changing it's internal 'system names' and so forth. The canards in the SU33Data file could still be a part of problem and maybe the drag factor in the wings or fuselage are wrong. I will work on it til i can black you out with the su33 !! As any real fighter plane should. Bye SU-33_DATA.7z