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I have almost finished the late Mig-23,(the Mig-23MLD cockpit). I added quite a few changes compared to the earlier one including a new later MLD HUD from Starfighter 2, a new blue cockpit color and changed the gunsight around to match photos better. I'm also updating the old Mig-23ML cockpit to better reflect photos...inlcluding a visible grill on the gunsight- (To ibetter irridate your food before eating "dillo" in Angola, I sure). So the late Mig-23MLD was quite a cooker too. It was a lighter weight than earlier versions (to dogfight better) and finally added ECM, chaff and flares. The MiG-23MLD was the most advanced version of the Flogger. It had a different identification-friend-or-foe system (IFF), a more advanced missile capability and a distinctive notch in the leading edge of the wing to improve flight characteristics at high angles of attack. They were apparently produced between 1982-85 during the cold war years and would have been available for the "Ronney the Ray-gun" era. The two cockpits compared for download. Older Mig-23ML with "grill" in the gunsight. Later Mig-23MLD with new blue cockpit color and HUD

What I said about the end is no spoiler...I didn't even get it right!

Maybe I got lost in the film...but I thought it was an alternate history until Someone help me out here!

I grew up with the orginal series in the '60s and 70's. I saw this film Friday. I loved it and thought it was brilliantly done with lots of humor and tieing the strings together. Uhura was little whack chasing the "pointy eared hobgogglin" around, but it "could have happened" and was great.

Looks like the Mig-23P had a radar scope: "Around 500 aircraft were manufactured between 1978-81. The MiG-23P was never exported and served only within the PVO in Soviet service. MiG-23bis. Similar to the MiG-23P except the IRST was restored and the cumbersome radar scope was eliminated because all of the information it provided could be displayed on the new head-up display (HUD). " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG-23 Wiki can be wrong, too however. I am trying to work with Starfighter 2 on an earlier cockpit (Mig-23P)with a radar scope and his superb HUD.

I find that the older I get, the better life gets...but I did not think so when I was in my 20s. There seems to be less angst and stress compared to back then. Even though, I am in the scientific field and have been in the middle of a publishing science showing inevitable changes (perhaps overwhelming) headed our way, I take things much more in stride. I have on purposely kept in superb shape (I can do more situps than in my 20s, when I was no slouch). My mind seems much sharper than in my 20s. I have to currently learn reams of information and it comes easier now. I'm not so worried about what everyone else thinks about me and I can navigate socal situations infinitely better than I used to in my 20s. So far in my late 40s, I'm enjoying life much more than I used to, go figure. Haven't you heard of that famous person in their 60s who said, "I would never give up my 60 year old body and brain for my 20 year old body and brain?" So, your best years are ahead!

Thanks, I'll try it.

I have installed a new Mig-23 such as Gepards Mig-23mk and other aircraft in the newest patched WOE. When I fly it, it flies sideways with the cockpit view. Does anyone know of a fix? I looked in the knowlege base and no luck. Thanks,

Thanks. there's lots of good info there.

Well, first I would not be too hasty to change the data file. The Mirage factory is well known for doing a good job. I am happy with the Mig-23 datafile and I flew a Mig-17 in aerobatics at the old Jeffco airport in Colorado, but to each their own...and there could of course be better newer data files out there. However, Gephard made a Mig-23MK and posted in at combatace to modern experimental aircraft section. http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6655 You could try that. Secondly, I know that Starfighter2 is working on a new datafile. You could ask him for it. Thirdly, I believe that there are newer Mig23s with newer data files posted in the cold war Russian fighters section at Combatace. For whether Thirdwire's graphical models are good for all models, I have not checked into that. That is a good question. Maybe someone else can answer better than me. I figure that for me it is not so important because in air-air combat, a Flogger is pretty distinctive at dogfight distances almost no matter what single-seat model it is...but that's me. Now the cockpit however...you live with that right in front of you for your whole flight.

Hi, if you want it loosely, it can be used on all variants. However, more historically, it can only be used on mid to late Mig-23s. Early variants apparently (please someone correct me with photos, hard evidence, etc. if I am wrong), had a radar scope on the instrument panel. The early variants with the radar scope in general according to one source seem to be: 'MiG-23S' ("'Flogger-A'"). 'MiG-23SM' 'MiG-23MF' ("'Flogger-B'"). 'MiG-23MP'("'Flogger-E'"). 'MiG-23M' 'MiG-23MS'("'Very first Flogger-G's"). 'MiG-23P' http://tripatlas.com/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-23 I am currently working on an early cockpit if Starfighter2, Lindr2 will make the HUD. Directions to add this cockpit to other floggers: 1) Just change the name of the three files to your new flogger: MiG-23ML_cockpit.ini MiG-23ML.ini MiG-23ML.ini Example. Let's say you are going to use a Mig-23MS. So rename MiG-23ML_cockpit.ini to Mig-23MS_cockpit.ini. Do the same to the other two files, put the new cockpit in and you are done.

Yes. If I can get Starfighter2 to make a HUD for the early Mig-23 which most likely had a radar scope on it then we will be in business. I know Starfighter 2 talked to me about it.

View File Mig-23ML Fighter Cockpit (Version 1.3) (TMF) Mig-23ML cockpit (Version 1.1) made by Richard "Pitts2A" Ordway, Starfighter2, lindr2. For SFP1 series. For Mirage Factory Mig-23ML. You need avionics 70 and the latest patch updates from Thirdwire. Tested on Windows XP and not Vista. However it might work on Vista too. This is the Mig-23ML cockpit in a Russian dark green color (from color photos of a Mig-23ML-look at the color photo in the folder) and modded to the Mig-23ML standard from Armourdave and Sal's Mig-23 grey-colored cockpit. Full instructions in the enclosed read me, along with historicl notes, credits, and so forth Enjoy! Submitter ordway Submitted 05/06/2009 Category Jet Cockpits  

Thanks this is very useful. Perhaps, I can repaint a Mig-21 cockpit, get rid of the pitot tube sticking out front and Starfighter can make a HUD...if indeed the early Mig-23s had much of one.

Yes Starfighter! Thank you. I am assimilating them and currenty testing them for robustness. :)

Before we all go off and start changing our work, in my opinion, this must be like published data please in mainstream science. What evidence do you have to say all this? Otherwise this becomes myth, propaganda and urban legend like some mainstream science issues which in my experience is severely leading the US and the world down the wrong path on some potentially life changing issues (I was in mainstream science for 12 years). Right now, all we have (except for Starfighter's superb input), in my opinion, is conflicting statements that could be based on hearsay and theresay and not evidence. Sorry to be blunt, but you see my point.

You mean the early Mig-23 cockpit had a radar screen half way down the instrument panel?

Hi Brain or anyone, What changes would you suggest to make it an earlier version Mig-23M/MF cockpit? Maybe we can release both. Thanks,

I can hardly wait!

That is awesome Starfighter! Tell me when you have finished with the Mig-23 HUD and we can connect your HUD to my cockpit and we will have a Mig-23 on fire!

Thanks, Gulp! Those vertical brackets are looking more important all the time. Now, the first photo, unless it is blurred, looks like a different generation HUD then the later ones. It seems to be missing the vertical bars.

Okay, I got a variation of Gerhard's MIG-23 HUD working on this cockpit. Thanks to Jarhead for the suggestion. RADAR MISSILE DISPLAY CCIP The HUD displays are missing the two veritcal side bars in Gerhards HUD. Anyone got suggestions on how to make them appear?

Don't worry about it! Just get better!

New Mig-23MF Soviet Green cockpit repaint in final stages. I have had several requests for a repaint like this. This is based on Armourdaves's and Sal's cockpit powder blue Mig-23 cockpit. Cockpit switches images were also added as per color photos.