UK_Widowmaker

So, if that's the case Jedi Master (and I can see why you would come to that conclusion)...it's a totally no win situation for the West? If that's the case, then it's just a case of containment!...keep them there...with a thin line of Khaki..in the hope that none manage to board a 767 or indeed, develop a WMD?....depressing thought indeed!

Ahh, great Days! Toon fans probably can't afford them anymore!

On the contrary...that is always news worthy of celebration!!

Well, I don't really see it as buying them off....I am sure there are many Taliban fighters sick to the back teeth of fighting for their oppressive Warlords.. Much like the Japanese were in WW2...they have been lied to...told that US and UK soldiers, will burn their villages and Mosques...and rape and Murder their Children. Once (like happened to this guy) they see that as lies, more and more will probably put down their arms (especially if there is an amnesty)...and go back to their villages. BUT they have to have something to go back to!...if it's just the fear of reprisal, and a dust bowl of nothing...why would they? Most people agree, that you will never defeat them with Missiles, Bombs and Tanks...that strategy alone is doomed to failure...so the powers that be, must find alternatives as well..... Stick and Carrot is the only way forward (imho)

Ah yes this story about the guys armed with Bayonets / Clubs / Spades etc who dug under the Trenches?...brutal stuff! (saw a documentary about it on History Channel)....musta been the worse job in WW1

mine were to start with!...I used to nick all the British Rail Toilet Chains from Newcastle to Brighton to hang off my Jacket! (I'm surprised I didn't give myself some awful disease!) perhaps I did?

Well, with any amount of luck, the UK will come to it's senses, and vote Brown and his Junta out in the May Elections. (although, there is no-one in opposition I trust to get the country sorted...so in the words of Widowmaker.... we're f*cked!

hahaha...in that case Rabu..I am in the enviable position of having an older Volvo... actually, I really like it too...first car I have ever had, that starts first time, every time...and..a real bonus... The CD player works!..hahahahaha

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8591442.stm A major part of my misspent youth!...Happy Birthday!!!! Old Punks never Die!

My sentiments exactly

Rabu Your points are very valid...I think what I am trying to say, is that it's the unfair distribution of wealth (which may or may not be put down to greed) that I have always had a problem with. Yes, the Middle class are suffering hardship in the economic crises, but Wallaroo may, quite justifyably say imho..that it's been a long time coming. The poor have always suffered... I have personal experience of what it's like to be homeless and hungry. It's all relative I guess, but the middle class (certainly in the UK) have lived it up...spending money they don't have, on their big houses...expensive cars..and top notch consumer products....and now the bottom has fallen out of their fantasy world...and they are upset about it, trying to blame the Banks, Credit Companies and government...when, in fact it's their own fault. I am not finger pointing...for the simple reason...I was one of them! (though having, I hope.. a modicum of common sense, I could see what was coming, so pulled the reigns in before disaster struck.) Quite a few people who I know didn't...and are now paying the price sadly... I would have thought that the government too, could have seen it coming...especially after (what was effectively.. A run on the Banks!) that we were headed into stormy waters...but no...they continued to spend, spend, spend...and use our Tax Money, to bail out the fat cat Bankers! But that's democracy I guess...which is of course, the very WORST way to run a Country...(until you look at the alternatives!) BTW...this is a great discussion, and thank you OvS for keeping it open!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7530164/Taliban-fighters-are-conditioned-to-die-in-battle-claims-former-insurgent.html I think the only way the fighting will ever stop..is by talking. It's what the Brits had to do in Ireland..and although it left a bad taste in the Mouth, the only way forward then, was to release the convicted IRA terrorists. The more the Taliban fighters realise, that their leaders are talking Bollocks...the more likely they will begin to leave the frontline. I am quite encouraged for the first time.

I'm sorry to say, that I have never had a car I have had fun with...they are, to me at least..a functional item, that fail to inspire any feelings of affection at all within me. I have a Volvo. Nuff said really

Have to disagree with you on one of your points Rabu. When you have a population (such as those in the US and UK) who drive around one person in a car...when 1/3 of the population is morbidly Obese...when the UK owes £1 Trillion in debt, and half the worlds population earn in a lifetime, what my household earns in 12 months....that sounds pretty much like greed to me!

Welcome to the World of OFF Trebby.

Old but good

I agree totally with FB...As I said earlier..the situation we find ourselves in is because of GREED. Greedy Business Moguls...Greedy Bankers, GREED GREED GREED...I have Millions...and I want MORE!!! Here's £50 for those starving African's (they bring it on themselves you know?...I would give £100...but they'd probably just buy guns with it) Yes...that's right..I am Paul McCartney...I have more Millions than you poor people will ever have!...I use it to rescue Lobsters don't ya know?....Cos I'm a C****

Yeah thats it {yawn}

My favourite Pacific Flight Sim was 1942 - Pacific Air War...god, I loved that game!

Still reckon OFF is a better look at the reality of WW1 Flying

The Sooner Kim Jong croaks, the better!...mad old tinpot idiot!

Hahahaha....that will teach you for being Philosophical Olham! :lol:

95% of all films released are complete twaddle anyway...so I think I'll just give Blu Ray a miss anyhow

The advice to not watch the News is a good starting point!..I haven't bought a Newspaper for over 10 yrs...and the Free one, which some idiots insist on putting through my letterbox every week, is gratefully used for my Collie Puppy Sophie to s**t on! (about all Newspapers are good for IMHO)

Well, at the end of the day, we as Human Beings have brought it on ourselves. There is enough food to feed the entire worlds population, but we don't. There is fundamental greed throughout the Western Cultures of the world, where the Stupidly Rich give the least, and take the most....and Catch has said it perfectly! Until we start to give as well as receive, we are on the slippery slope...and if that leads to the demise of mankind..we have no-one to blame but ourselves...and the planet will be a much nicer place when we're gone!