Unguided rockets as air to air weapon

[Gepard]

In the 1960th some user states of the MiG-21 were experimenting with mixed armament in MiG-21 pairs. The first plane was armed with AA-2 Atoll, the second plane had UB-16 pods (in game as UV16).

Over the weekend i was experimenting to create a air-to-air version of the UV16. My result was, that i could use it to shoot enemy planes, but my wingmen always called "out of ammo", when i gave them the order to attack enemy airplanes.

Is there a trick to make the UV16 to an air-to-air weapon?

 

The screenshot shows the result of an attack with UB-16 pods firing S-5 rockets at Vautour.

BTW it works only with very cooperative targets.

[yakarov79]

It works with stock RAF Lightning.  And with my F-86D. -which is based on stock Lightning. 

We have also a "gun pod-rocket pod"; it also works, in a way....

But you can not defend shit with that. 

But with nice formation flying, I was able to score hits 8- F-86D vs. 6 - Tu-something. 8:0

[Stratos]

I remember trying it in the Lightning as Yakarov said, fun and dangerous!

[Wrench]

The rockets need to be treated as a 'gun' of sorts .. that's how I did it with the F-89 Scorpions. I also cheated with the rockets, giving them a sustainer. There's a MiG-17 around here someplace I did with the same kind of working A-A rockets.

I can hunt around for the specifics, if you want.

[Cliff7600]

3 hours ago, Gepard said:

my wingmen always called "out of ammo"

When you give them an aerial target they drop all the air to ground ordnance.
So you have to create a version of the rocket that has :

AirToAir=TRUE

...in its data.ini entries.
In the case of the UB-16 pod you have to create a UB-16 pod for air to air targets loaded with the air to air rockets (and I guess it would be used for air to ground as well).

Edited 4 hours ago by Cliff7600

[Wrench]

this is the 1stGen mod for the MiG-17PF SP-16. This has the rockets and pods. I can't find my in game version, so I'll test this one later today. They may need some tweeking for SF2

use the attached file instead. Be aware, this is the 1stGen mod, and shouldn't use the stock SF2 lod, but use the information on rocket placements from the data ini into a NEW version of the SF2 data ini for a modded stock 17PF

 

mig17pf-sp16_pack.7z

[Wrench]

never mind, here's a more SF2 version by christian59, that uses the sf2 lod