Tornado F3

[+Dave 2,322]

and next...

 

the tornado ids/gr1 does not have sidewinderpylons...

 

It was modeled that way on purpose.

[peterbezemer 6]

another question:

How can i add (extern./intern.) laser designator to the gr1?

 

I want to drop some paveway's

when i select the paveway, i dont get the little 'green screen' of the laser designator, looking to the target.

(sorry for my poor English)

 

for external I tried this:

 

[LeftCenterlineStation]

AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,EOGR,EOGB,TLR,LGB,EP,2BR,LP (is LP Laser Pod?)

AttachmentType=UK,NATO (should i add "USAF" here?)

 

and i made this:

[WeaponData2053]

TypeName=LIGHTNINGPOD <- not changed

FullName=Lightning Targeting Pod <- not changed

ModelName=LIGHTNING_POD <- not changed

(...)

AttachmentType=UK <- I changed this

NationName=RAF <- and this

StartYear=1995

EndYear=2020

Availability=2

BaseQuantity=25

Exported=FALSE

ExportStartYear=0

ExportEndYear=0

ExportAvailability=0

WeaponDataType=4

StoreType=3

(...)

 

did not work...

 

 

for internal I tried this: (this was posted on this forum for the f-15E)

 

[LASERDESIGNATOR]

SystemType=LASER_DESIGNATOR

CameraFOV=2.500000

CameraPosition=0.000000,9.500000,-0.650000

CameraYaw=0.000000

CameraPitch=0.000000

CameraRoll=0.000000

PaveTackNarrow.tga

EODisplayFlags=268501249

SeekerRange=27.000000

SeekerGimbleLimit=120.000000

SearchTexture=PaveTackNarrow.tga

SightTexture=avq23sight1.tga

 

still no laserdesignator...

 

 

And about the sidewinderstations...

in the loadoutini file I found this:

 

// Station 1 = Left Wing Station Outboard

(...)

// Station 11 =Right Centerline Fueslage Station Mid

// Station 12 = Sidewinder Station 1

// Station 13 = Sidewinder Station 2

// Station 14 = Sidewinder Station 3

// Station 15 = Sidewinder Station 4

 

but system 12-15 are not in the Tornado_GR_DATA.ini, so they are not on the aircraft...

maybe i can copy them from the tornado F3 ?

 

and some images of the f3 in action:

http://peter.bezemer.googlepages.com/wingsovereurope

[Wrench 9,848]

Don't forget to add the Laserdesinator "SystemName=" to the aircraft, probably in the [Nose] section of the data ini

 

ie:

 

SystemName{***}=LaserDesignator (where the *** are the next number in sequence) Worked perfect on the F19, Mud Hen, Mig27D, etc.

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

[peterbezemer 6]

Don't forget to add the Laserdesinator "SystemName=" to the aircraft, probably in the [Nose] section of the data ini

 

i had forgotten that step.

Thanks...

[peterbezemer 6]

Now I am looking for the ALARM (air launched anti radiation missile), for the SEAD missions...

(it was not in the weapon pack)

Can someone (explain how to) make one? (modify a AGM-88 HARM?)

or can I download it somewere?...

 

Thanks again

[Tannethal 2]

Be sure to add these Entries to the avionics.ini of the plane you want to mod, otherwise you have a Laserdesginator and still no Targetdisplay.

 

[TVDisplayData]

UseRadarTexture=TRUE

DisplayLimitLeft=8

DisplayLimitRight=119

DisplayLimitTop=6

DisplayLimitBottom=121

ApplyFilter=TRUE

FilterMaterial=DTVFilterMaterial

OverlayTexture=

 

[DTVFilterMaterial]

DepthBufferCheck=FALSE

DepthBufferWrite=FALSE

RenderedInOrder=FALSE

AlphaTestEnabled=FALSE

CullMode=NO_CULL

LightEnabled=FALSE

SpecularEnabled=FALSE

EmissiveEnabled=FALSE

FogEnabled=FALSE

AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000

DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000

ZBufferOffset=0.000000

PriorityLevel=1

BlendOp=MODULATE

NumTextureStages=1

TextureStage[01].TextureName=GreenTVFilter.bmp

TextureStage[01].MipMap=FALSE

TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=FALSE

TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE

TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=DIFFUSE

 

 

OverlayTexture= can be used for kind of display frames/grids or the like

 

 

From the Laserdesignator:

 

SightTexture=avq23sight1.tga

 

This can be changed to a custom TGA with Alpha channel, but seems the file needs to be placed in objects folder.

 

See attached images for a rough draft. I finally figured out how to do and save TGAs with Alpha channel. ;)

 

S!

Edited March 1, 2007 by Tannethal

[Tannethal 2]

A Change to my previous information regarding the Laserdesignator Sight picture.

I had a copy in flight folder too, thats why it was displayed.

 

The file has to be placed into the flight folder, otherwise it won't show up. Placing it in objects folder won't do it.

 

S!

[peterbezemer 6]

ok, thanks again

 

but still 2 questions, I would like to have: (if possible)

 

- sidewinders stations on the tornado gr1/IDS

- The ALARM anti radiation missile (for SEAD missions)

 

(I realy like the panavia tornado :yes: )

[Guest Saganuay82]

Be sure to add these Entries to the avionics.ini of the plane you want to mod, otherwise you have a Laserdesginator and still no Targetdisplay.

 

[TVDisplayData]

UseRadarTexture=TRUE

DisplayLimitLeft=8

DisplayLimitRight=119

DisplayLimitTop=6

DisplayLimitBottom=121

ApplyFilter=TRUE

FilterMaterial=DTVFilterMaterial

OverlayTexture=

 

[DTVFilterMaterial]

DepthBufferCheck=FALSE

DepthBufferWrite=FALSE

RenderedInOrder=FALSE

AlphaTestEnabled=FALSE

CullMode=NO_CULL

LightEnabled=FALSE

SpecularEnabled=FALSE

EmissiveEnabled=FALSE

FogEnabled=FALSE

AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000

DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000

ZBufferOffset=0.000000

PriorityLevel=1

BlendOp=MODULATE

NumTextureStages=1

TextureStage[01].TextureName=GreenTVFilter.bmp

TextureStage[01].MipMap=FALSE

TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=FALSE

TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE

TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=DIFFUSE

OverlayTexture= can be used for kind of display frames/grids or the like

From the Laserdesignator:

 

SightTexture=avq23sight1.tga

 

This can be changed to a custom TGA with Alpha channel, but seems the file needs to be placed in objects folder.

 

See attached images for a rough draft. I finally figured out how to do and save TGAs with Alpha channel. ;)

 

S!

 

 

I see you are using a F-4 pit? Is that for your F3? My F3 has a Tornado pit in it. Your pics just for info?

[+allenjb42 4,234]

ok, thanks again

 

but still 2 questions, I would like to have: (if possible)

 

- sidewinders stations on the tornado gr1/IDS

- The ALARM anti radiation missile (for SEAD missions)

 

(I realy like the panavia tornado :yes: )

 

If you've got the F.3 then you must have downloaded Florian's Tornado package. His GR.1 and IDS do have Sidewinder rails. AD's versions do not.

 

As for ALARM, maybe it will be in the next weapons pack. But you could always fly the ECR and have HARMs instead.

[peterbezemer 6]

is Florian's Tornado package a modified AD's version? or not...

[+whiteknight06604 934]

is Florian's Tornado package a modified AD's version? or not...

 

No it a completely different and much earlier model.

[Guest Saganuay82]

Florians is the older one. AD's is the newer one and is all about ground attack.

[+Dave 2,322]

ok, thanks again

 

but still 2 questions, I would like to have: (if possible)

 

- sidewinders stations on the tornado gr1/IDS

- The ALARM anti radiation missile (for SEAD missions)

 

(I realy like the panavia tornado :yes: )

 

You are not going to be able to add sidewinders to the Tornado GR1/IDS without it messing up the placement of the current weapons on there. That is why we didn't have them in the first place. The original max files were lost so couldn't fix that.

[Wrench 9,848]

You are not going to be able to add sidewinders to the Tornado GR1/IDS without it messing up the placement of the current weapons on there. That is why we didn't have them in the first place. The original max files were lost so couldn't fix that.

 

POOP!!

 

And that, of course, answers my question: "why can't we put them back??"

Too bad, it'd be nice to put them back.

 

I guess we'll just do a lot of running, and screaming and .....

 

Wrench

Kevin Stein

Edited March 14, 2007 by Wrench

[+Erik 1,812]

Possibly a file I might have archived somewhere from all the moving or would have been on an offsite machine? Just a thought if it helps. :)

[Tannethal 2]

@Saganuay82:

The F3 has a nice Tornado cockpit.

The F4 pit is just a shoot from a simple B57G cockpit mod i threw together, based on Wrenchs original work and tons of threads with ideas and how to do posts.

The pics are just to demonstrate the ability to change the Sight picture of the LD.

 

S!

[+littlesmoke 64]

hey peterbezemer

 

if you havent seen this before, you might enjoy it

[peterbezemer 6]

hey peterbezemer

 

if you havent seen this before, you might enjoy it

 

Hi, thanks.

 

i had already seen that, I installed it in a temp. folder, and copied the aircraft to my woe aircraft folder, so i dont have the complete pack installed, only the 'important stuff' ...

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another thing:

does someone know where I can find how to create campains/missions?

--

and:

the F3 length is not correct...

--

Peter

[MigHound 0]

The F.3 at Avsim is the only one of that version available. Armoudave's versions are all based on the strike version.

 

Here's what you need to do to get Florian's Tornados to fly without a CTD:

 

Extract the Flightengine.ini from the flightdata .cat file

 

Then amend this section to read:

 

[GraphicsSettings]

ZBufferDepth=24

MaxVertexCount=16384

MaxIndexCount=32768

MaxTextureCount=16384

MaxModelType=2048

MaxMeshPerScene=2048

MaxModelPerScene=4096

MaxLightPerScene=1024

AspectRatio=1.333333

MinPixelSize=1.0

 

That should sort you out.

 

What do I need to extract this file from the .CAT?

 

Thanks.

 

I've been dying to get this F.3 model to work, for ages, and haven't been able too. At this point, I'm willing to try anything. I have all the others, I just need this model to have all of the available Tornado variants.

[MigHound 0]

What do I need to extract this file from the .CAT?

 

Thanks.

 

I've been dying to get this F.3 model to work, for ages, and haven't been able too. At this point, I'm willing to try anything. I have all the others, I just need this model to have all of the available Tornado variants.

 

Nevermind... I found it...

[+ravenclaw_007 7,633]

ok, thanks again

 

but still 2 questions, I would like to have: (if possible)

 

- sidewinders stations on the tornado gr1/IDS

- The ALARM anti radiation missile (for SEAD missions)

 

(I realy like the panavia tornado :yes: )

 

 

the only way to have the sidewinders is to change some of your weaponstation and your loadout ini.

it is not perfect but you have sidewinders and still have a lot of bombs to throw a round

 

[MigHound 0]

The F.3 at Avsim is the only one of that version available. Armoudave's versions are all based on the strike version.

 

Here's what you need to do to get Florian's Tornados to fly without a CTD:

 

Extract the Flightengine.ini from the flightdata .cat file

 

Ummm... yeah... I got it working with the alterations to the Flightengine.ini, with no dire consequences, that I can see, but I see what the guy meant by a lot of unresolved bugs. The most notable were there Sidewinder stations did not appear unless you had fuel tanks selected, otherwise your AIM-9s would just be floating out there in open space. The shape of the thing is... pretty close, but not perfect. No insult to Florian, but the GR Mk. 1, IDS & ECR models based on ArmourDave's designs that USAFMTL released are far more accurate, and they're beautiful. nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean, know what I mean... hint hint hint...

[+EricJ 4,245]

Yeah whoever made the model forgot to make it the appropriate selection. Why SF1/WOE/WOV doesn't show pylons when it's not loaded is anyones (besides TK's of course) guess on that one. For Tomcat shots I have to at least put a 'winder on there so it'll show up, or it'd look pretty odd if the right hand pylon is showing vis a vis the left hand not there. Weird.

[MigHound 0]

Extract the Flightengine.ini from the flightdata .cat file

 

Then amend this section to read:

 

[GraphicsSettings]

ZBufferDepth=24

MaxVertexCount=16384

MaxIndexCount=32768

MaxTextureCount=16384

MaxModelType=2048

MaxMeshPerScene=2048

MaxModelPerScene=4096

MaxLightPerScene=1024

AspectRatio=1.333333

MinPixelSize=1.0

 

That should sort you out.

 

Just out of curiosity, apart from getting the one model to work, can anyone tell me, what these settings do?

I can't visually detect any differences, the game looks pretty much the same.