sparkomatic Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I completely concur...and still stand back wondering what this naming fetish is all about...I mean the F-20 thread was completely over-run with it to the point that it is not even worth reading the thread...a shame. Certainly hope this thread does not get hijacked further down that deplorable path. Excellent documentary posted by the way! Quote
+FOTF Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Looks an awful lot like the Jaguar, doesn't it? Actually....it looks more like a Jaguar and A-5 Vigilante had a child Quote
Silverbolt Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I completely concur...and still stand back wondering what this naming fetish is all about...I mean the F-20 thread was completely over-run with it to the point that it is not even worth reading the thread...a shame. Certainly hope this thread does not get hijacked further down that deplorable path. Excellent documentary posted by the way! 100% with you. Quote
+FastCargo Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I disagree somewhat. Now, like with anything else, people can go overboard. With that being said, I think combat aircraft should get a name...official or otherwise. A lot of times, the name can evoke images or feelings toward an aircraft (good or bad). Something that rolls off the tongue...and doesn't sound sanitary like an alphanumeric designation. That's why were here, right? Because we enjoy the feel (even simulated) of flight? Bean-counters call it a B-1B. Pilots call it a Bone, because that's what it does to you after it rips over your head at 200 feet, beyond Mach 1, the wall of air distorting light , leaving a smashed trail like God's own finger, whipping up dust and debris in a thunderstorm of fury...just before the sound and heat of four F101s putting out 30000lbs of thrust each drive your eardrums through the other side of your skull. Then the eighty-four 500 pound bombs that it just puked out in 2 seconds arrive on your head... FastCargo Quote
Spinners Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I thought the B-1 was called 'Bone' simply because of the B-one designation. Quote
+FastCargo Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I thought the B-1 was called 'Bone' simply because of the B-one designation. You missed the point of the post. It's called by a name, not by a designation by those who operate it. My point was, most pilots call their aircraft by it's name (official or otherwise), not by it's designation. There are exceptions...but they are rare. Huns, Voodoos, The Deuce, Rhinos, Thuds, Zippers, BUFFs, Vipers, Eagles, Hornets...names...not numbers and letters on a spreadsheet. FastCargo Quote
lazboy Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 In the wide world it will always be the TSR-2 no matter what arbitary name this forum decides to allocate it, lets not get sidetracked yet again with naming conventions but instread concerntrate on an eagerly awaited aircraft which shows every indication of living up to the high standard of Craigs previous creation. Lazboy Quote
+Bongodriver Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) Gosh, looks like this beastie is surrounded in controversy, all we need now are some socialist pinko's to come along and cancell it But, there are clearly 2 compelling arguments, Fastcargo has a very good point, a name endears the aircraft more to it's crews etc.... the other point is equally as valid, let's not take this thread down that road, so for now, keep names to PM's to me or Ant so we can make a list of the ones we can make a poll on. So to start this thread back on the correct path, heres a quick screenie of an effect I am working on, basically I don't like the way the game cuts off exhaust smoke when burners kick in so I have created ths effect to keep some smoke on burner (this particular effect is an edit to the data ini, but I am creating taylored AB and smoke effects for the TSR) We all know how smoky aircraft were from that era. Edited May 11, 2008 by craigbrierley Quote
Gunrunner Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 OT : Sparkomatic, actually, it wasn't the F-20 thread as the F-20 already HAD a name, Tigershark, you probably are thinking of the F-29 threads, of which there are two, one discussing the plane, the other discussing the name, no problem here... ;) Craig> She's absolutely gorgeous, I always had a soft spot for her and her tragic history, so symbolic of the organised destruction of the british aeronautic industry. Quote
Jug Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 In the wide world it will always be the TSR-2 no matter what arbitary name this forum decides to allocate it, lets not get sidetracked yet again with naming conventions but instread concerntrate on an eagerly awaited aircraft which shows every indication of living up to the high standard of Craigs previous creation. Lazboy Hear, hear! Quote
Spinners Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 You missed the point of the post. Not at all. My query had nothing to do names and numbers. My query was against your deliciously colourful origin of the unofficial name 'Bone' applied to the B-1B. I'm 100% sure it simply comes from B-one! Or is that too obvious?! Quote
Gunrunner Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) Spinners, I guess you are both right, the pun being to good for a pilot to pass up when it's justified... Now, let's concentrate on drooling, the bird craig's working on being one of the most elegant ever to fly. Edited May 11, 2008 by Gunrunner Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I see it comin plane is finished and not ready for release cause of no name!!!! Quote
+Bongodriver Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 I see it comin plane is finished and not ready for release cause of no name!!!! That won't happen, seriously it has a name, just not one that makes everyone happy, we can always give Her a propper name after we have flown and fought in Her. Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Yupp I have renamed some birds in my installation so I`m waiting ... Quote
+FastCargo Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Nice work...I like the idea of a 'smoky' AB effect. Anyway, look forward to your release when you're ready there CB. FastCargo Quote
Spinners Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I mentioned the success of the 1/72 scale TSR.2 model kit by Airfix and how it created an explosion of interest in the aircraft. These decal sheets might whet the appetite... http://www.ipmsusa2.org/Reviews/Kits/First...cal_72_TSR2.htm BTW in the UK they sold out very quickly and go for silly money on ebay. Quote
+Bongodriver Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 [smug mode on] He! He! He![smug mode off] Quote
lazboy Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 [smug mode on] He! He! He![smug mode off] Craig before you guys get too smug have you done an Israeli skin as the inevitable request will come within days of the TSR-2 release? Lazboy Quote
triplethr3at Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Craig before you guys get too smug have you done an Israeli skin as the inevitable request will come within days of the TSR-2 release? Lazboy Because if there is an aircraft release withought an israeli skin the earth might just start spinning backwards Quote
Spinners Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Ouch! (Jaw hits keyboard) (My jaw is one hell of a shape to press o,u,c,h and shift1). Quote
Dreamstar Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 OK its official.... im drooling.... please tell me im not seeing the SEXIEST thing on long undercarriage..... !!!!! Quote
+Gocad Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) Nah, nothing is as sexy as the Crusader, but it's close. Edited May 11, 2008 by Gocad Quote
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