+ghostrider883 Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 (edited) First of many to be uploaded soon: IAF Type S-22 Fitter, No. 32 "Thunderbirds" Sqdn , circa 1971. For howling1's superb IAF Type S-22 Fitter mod. This will appear soon in the Indian AF/Navy skins section. Thanks to Dave for creating this section here at CA. Edited September 4, 2008 by ghostrider883 Quote
SayethWhaaaa Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 I'm looking forward to this one! I've been eyeing it off in your sig for a while dude! Quote
+whiteknight06604 Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Thanks.I'll be looking forward to the releases. Quote
kct Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Nice work there, can't wait to taste them. Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 Thanks guys. Glad you like it . This is next: A Su-7 sporting one of those hastily pained camos during the 1971 war. While reading a book on the 1971 Indo-Pak war, I read something interesting. The reasons for high Su-7 losses by the IAF were attributed to 1. Multiple strafing runs & rocket attack passes on targets (something which the Su-7 was never meant to do). 2. Pilots being told not to jettison underbelly drop tanks as there was shortage of Su-7 drop tanks. Quote
Stratos Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Great skins!! Looking forward to fly them, but is not the threat about "pakistani" skins too?? We need targets!! Quote
+starfighter2 Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 While reading a book on the 1971 Indo-Pak war, I read something interesting. The reasons for high Su-7 losses by the IAF were attributed to 1. Multiple strafing runs & rocket attack passes on targets (something which the Su-7 was never meant to do). 2. Pilots being told not to jettison underbelly drop tanks as there was shortage of Su-7 drop tanks. That's shameful - more drop tanks = less pilots and planes - bad policy Quote
+starfighter2 Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 BTW.... some 30+ years ago one of the first plastic kit models which I made was Su-7 - I love that big old plane :yes: (First one was 35 years ago - F-104N (Nasa kite) and that was love at first sight). Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 (edited) Great skins!! Looking forward to fly them, but is not the threat about "pakistani" skins too?? We need targets!! Like this ? Skin for Crab_02's PAF F-6A This F-6 wearing a desert camo scheme belonged to the No. 25 Squadron "Night Strike Eagles" . Some of the No. 25 Squadron F-6s participated in the 1971 War wearing this very color scheme and at least two of them - flown by Wing Commander Saad Hatmi (CO No. 25 Squadron) and Flight Lieutenant Shahid Raza - intercepted and shot down two IAF Hunters in the Soan valley near Sakesar hills. Edited September 4, 2008 by ghostrider883 Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 That's shameful - more drop tanks = less pilots and planes - bad policy The Su-7 barely had the range to hit targets in Pakistan without drop tanks. Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 Had fun while trying to fix a bug in the skin..... Somewhere near Sakesar hills,Pakistan.... My flight spotted a lone Hunter heading towards the border after a strike mission. Manuevering for a shot... Good Tone!! Fox Two!!! Scratch One IAF Hunter.. Quote
+starfighter2 Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 The Su-7 barely had the range to hit targets in Pakistan without drop tanks. Yeah, I know about huge fuel consumption, just I... think that one human life is more important then 19 (supposed) Su-7 shoot down in 1971 war. If command was to "not to eject empty drop tanks" and in that way destroy planes and more important - pilots....huh men - that's bad thinkin' Quote
+starfighter2 Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 BTW....I saw much worse commands in mine war experience - huh men - that sucks Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 Yeah, I know about huge fuel consumption, just I... think that one human life is more important then 19 (supposed) Su-7 shoot down in 1971 war. If command was to "not to eject empty drop tanks" and in that way destroy planes and more important - pilots....huh men - that's bad thinkin' that was the dilemma faced by commanders those days. I guess the basic aim was not to lose excess drop tanks, as it may have ended up grounding the Su-7 attack fleet. There is a wonderful video on youtube shot by a BBC journalist during the 1971 war in EAst Pakistan that shows IAF Hunters attacking Dacca, and a Su-7 getting hit by AAA and cart-wheeling to the ground, with its pilot ejecting . Quote
+whiteknight06604 Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Like this ? Skin for Crab_02's PAF F-6A This F-6 wearing a desert camo scheme belonged to the No. 25 Squadron "Night Strike Eagles" . Some of the No. 25 Squadron F-6s participated in the 1971 War wearing this very color scheme and at least two of them - flown by Wing Commander Saad Hatmi (CO No. 25 Squadron) and Flight Lieutenant Shahid Raza - intercepted and shot down two IAF Hunters in the Soan valley near Sakesar hills. I think I'm in love.your skin work has gotten better and better with each one.Please keep up the excellent work. Quote
Wrench Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Ghost, those off my new 1024 templates?? They sure do look good!!! Wrench kevin stein Quote
+Typhoid Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 these are outstanding! Love it! I've got one stand alone install just for India and Pakistan. Quote
Wrench Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Just so's everyone know, as Ghost has already asked me, Gepard's Indo-Pak map IS on my list to 'targetize'. I just don't know when I'll get to it... We've got damn near everything we need, planes, vehicles, ships, AD units, expecting a target rich environment. Wrench kevin stein Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 5, 2008 Author Posted September 5, 2008 (edited) Ghost, those off my new 1024 templates?? They sure do look good!!! Wrench kevin stein Nope. I resized the stock MiG-19 256X256 skin to 512X512 and worked from there. The skin had been lying on my HD since April 13, 2006(the day it was created) I also have to make changes to the decals.ini for the unreleased MiG-21FL skin for your Type 77 Fishbed Update....the new lod has messed up decal locations all over. I had made those skins using howling1's v1.8 IAF Fishbeds. expecting a target rich environment. Wrench kevin stein Me too Edited September 5, 2008 by ghostrider883 Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 6, 2008 Author Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) these are outstanding! Love it! I've got one stand alone install just for India and Pakistan. I suggest you have the following a/c in the install. IAF/IN: Vampire FB.5 An-12 bomber Hawker Sea Hawk FGA.6/Mk. 100/Mk.101 - Bunyap Dassault Mystere IVA - ajunaidr Hawker Hunter F.6( IAF F.56) - Armourdave Hawker Hunter FGA.9 from WoE(IAF F.56A version) Folland Gnat F.Mk.1 -Marcelo MiG-21F Type 74 Mirage Factory MiG-21PF Type 76 -howling1/Wrench MiG-21FL Type 77 - howling1/Wrench MiG-21UM Mongol - Amokfloo HAL Ajeet (Gnat Mk.2) - Marcelo MiG-21M Type 96 - howling1/Wrench MiG-21MF Type 96B - howling1/Wrench EE Canberra B(I)58, B.2 - ajunaidr Type S-22 Fitter(Su-7) - howling1 HAL HF-24 Mk.1 Marut - capun Jaguar GR.1 -Mirage Factory MiG-23MF Rakshak - howling1 MiG-25R/RU Garuda - wpnssgt/USAFMTL MiG-29A wpnssgt Mirage 2000D - Amokfloo Sea Harrier FRS.51 PAF/PN: F-86F-35 - howling1 C-130B Bomber Canadair Sabre Mk.6 B-57B/C/RB-57G - ajunaidr Shenyang F-6A - Crab_02 F-104A/B - ajunaidr F-16A - wpnssgt/TMF P-3C -Raptorman Mirage IIIE/O - TMF Q-5 F-7 JF-17 Added later : Flying those MiGs wouldn't be satisfying without using Paladrian's excellent MiG-21pits(21F,PF,MF) Edited September 6, 2008 by ghostrider883 Quote
+Typhoid Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 I suggest you have the following a/c in the install.IAF/IN: Vampire FB.5 An-12 bomber Hawker Sea Hawk FGA.6/Mk. 100/Mk.101 - Bunyap Dassault Mystere IVA - ajunaidr Hawker Hunter F.6( IAF F.56) - Armourdave Hawker Hunter FGA.9 from WoE(IAF F.56A version) Folland Gnat F.Mk.1 -Marcelo MiG-21F Type 74 Mirage Factory MiG-21PF Type 76 -howling1/Wrench MiG-21FL Type 77 - howling1/Wrench MiG-21UM Mongol - Amokfloo HAL Ajeet (Gnat Mk.2) - Marcelo EE Canberra B(I)58, B.2 - ajunaidr Type S-22 Fitter(Su-7) - howling1 HAL HF-24 Mk.1 Marut - capun Jaguar GR.1 -Mirage Factory MiG-23MF Rakshak - howling1 MiG-25R/RU Garuda - wpnssgt/USAFMTL MiG-29A wpnssgt Mirage 2000D - Amokfloo Sea Harrier FRS.51 PAF/PN: F-86F-35 - howling1 C-130B Bomber Canadair Sabre Mk.6 B-57B/C/RB-57G - ajunaidr Shenyang F-6A - Crab_02 F-104A/B - ajunaidr F-16A - wpnssgt/TMF P-3C -Raptorman Mirage IIIE/O - TMF Q-5 F-7 JF-17 excellent! A shopping list! many thanks Quote
+ghostrider883 Posted September 6, 2008 Author Posted September 6, 2008 The camo sported by Su-7s during its last days with the IAF: Quote
Erwin_Hans Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 I suggest you have the following a/c in the install.IAF/IN: Vampire FB.5 An-12 bomber Hawker Sea Hawk FGA.6/Mk. 100/Mk.101 - Bunyap Dassault Mystere IVA - ajunaidr Hawker Hunter F.6( IAF F.56) - Armourdave Hawker Hunter FGA.9 from WoE(IAF F.56A version) Folland Gnat F.Mk.1 -Marcelo MiG-21F Type 74 Mirage Factory MiG-21PF Type 76 -howling1/Wrench MiG-21FL Type 77 - howling1/Wrench MiG-21UM Mongol - Amokfloo HAL Ajeet (Gnat Mk.2) - Marcelo MiG-21M Type 96 - howling1/Wrench MiG-21MF Type 96B - howling1/Wrench EE Canberra B(I)58, B.2 - ajunaidr Type S-22 Fitter(Su-7) - howling1 HAL HF-24 Mk.1 Marut - capun Jaguar GR.1 -Mirage Factory MiG-23MF Rakshak - howling1 MiG-25R/RU Garuda - wpnssgt/USAFMTL MiG-29A wpnssgt Mirage 2000D - Amokfloo Sea Harrier FRS.51 PAF/PN: F-86F-35 - howling1 C-130B Bomber Canadair Sabre Mk.6 B-57B/C/RB-57G - ajunaidr Shenyang F-6A - Crab_02 F-104A/B - ajunaidr F-16A - wpnssgt/TMF P-3C -Raptorman Mirage IIIE/O - TMF Q-5 F-7 JF-17 Added later : Flying those MiGs wouldn't be satisfying without using Paladrian's excellent MiG-21pits(21F,PF,MF) For names of MiG-21 IN IAF Type 74=MiG-21F Type 76=MiG-21PF Type 77=MiG-21FL Then........ Type 95=MiG-21MF? Type 96=MiG-21BIS? Bison=MiG-21-93? Quote
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