Viggen Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Does anyone happen to have good, reliable info on the Turkish F-4E-2020 or F-5-2000 upgrades? I could use it since I'm trying to mod those two aircraft for a long term campaign I'm working on. Most of the stuff I have on the F-4E-2020 just says that it is able to carry smart bombs and designation pods. But, does it carry ARMAAM or have onboard ECM or countermeasures? What about a HUD? As to the F-5-2000, I could use just about anything on it, as all I have is that IAI is the one doing the upgrades. Quote
+Dave Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 Try here http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f5.html http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f4.html Quote
+ST0RM Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 The Turkish F-4E-2020 Terminator was a joint upgrade by IEI and TuAF Logistics. It was based off of the Kurnass-2000, but with the most current avionics of the day. On the other side, the Greek Peace Icarus was based off of the German ICE program, but included a significant A-to-G capability. Just based off of what I've read about each aircraft, and this is purely my opinion, the Greek Phantom appears to be more flexible and more of a complete weapon system. I've yet to see a Turkish Phantom, but the Greek jets looked sweet with the IFF blades and a targeting pod slung underneath. When I last saw one, it was at a TLP at Florennes and there were some German AF F-4Fs with them. You could definately make out which were which due to those smokeless engines. Good luck! Jeff Quote
+Dave Posted December 31, 2008 Posted December 31, 2008 I have a 2020 mod Sundowner did with a nice skin and other refinements to the model. Let me ask if it can be released. Quote
Viggen Posted December 31, 2008 Author Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) Dave, thanks for those links. That really helped. If you can get it released, great, that would make my life easier, and give me more time to work on the F-5-2000. If not, well, I guess Ukraine is going to have to wait to get weapons for it's aircraft for a different part of this long term project... EDIT: Wow, my internet is slow today! Edited December 31, 2008 by JA 37 Viggen Quote
Viggen Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) I'm going to need a little bit of help with the F-5A-2000's avionics/cockpit. I want to add the HUD from the F-16A Block 15 BAF, but, I have no idea as to how to do that. Edited January 1, 2009 by JA 37 Viggen Quote
coolpilot Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 You have to add a HUD to the instruments list in the cockpit.ini an example with the F-16A ADF : Instrument[019]=RWR Instrument[020]=RadarScope Instrument[021]=HUD then this entry below: [HUD] Type=HUD NodeName=HUD Then in the avionics.ini you have to copy the HUD related entries from the F-16´s avionics.ini and paste them F-5´s. This is what you should copy and paste (a part of): [HUD] HUDColor=0.0,1.0,0.0,0.7 BoresightOffset=0.0,0.0 ViewportTopLeft=-0.125,-0.09 ViewportBottomRight=0.125,0.212 GunBoresightAngle=-0.50 RocketBoresightAngle=0 [HUDFont] TextFontName=Arial TextSize=11 TextBold=TRUE [HUDModeNav] Symbol[01]=HUD_FlightPath Symbol[02]=HUD_AttitudeBars Symbol[03]=HUD_HeadingScale Symbol[04]=HUD_AirspeedScale Symbol[05]=HUD_AltitudeScale Symbol[06]=HUD_NavModeText Symbol[07]=HUD_WaypointID Symbol[08]=HUD_WaypointRange Symbol[09]=//HUD_waterline Symbol[10]=HUD_TD Symbol[11]=HUD_G Symbol[12]=HUD_LaserTarget Symbol[13]=//HUD_BankIndicator Symbol[14]=//HUD_GSymbol Symbol[15]=//HUD_WPSymbol Symbol[16]=HUD_Mach Symbol[17]=HUD_RadarRange Symbol[18]=HUD_CText Symbol[19]=//HUD_ALT_LOW_TEXT Symbol[20]=HUD_RadarAltText Symbol[21]=HUD_ALText [HUDModeAA] Symbol[01]=HUD_FlightPath Symbol[02]=HUD_AttitudeBars Symbol[03]=HUD_HeadingScale Symbol[04]=HUD_AirspeedScale Symbol[05]=HUD_AltitudeScale Symbol[06]=HUD_LCOS Symbol[07]=HUD_TD Symbol[08]=HUD_SRM Symbol[09]=//HUD_Alpha Symbol[10]=HUD_Mach Symbol[11]=HUD_G Symbol[12]=//HUD_AlphaSymbol Symbol[13]=HUD_RadarRange Symbol[14]=HUD_ASE_SRM Symbol[15]=HUD_ASE_MRM Symbol[16]=//HUD_BankIndicator Symbol[17]=HUD_Max_G Symbol[18]=//HUD_GSymbol Symbol[19]=//HUD_MachSymbol Symbol[20]=HUD_Guncross Symbol[21]=HUD_AAModeText Symbol[22]=HUD_RadarAltText Symbol[23]=//HUD_RSymbol Symbol[24]=HUD_ARMText Symbol[25]=//HUD_ALText Symbol[26]=HUD_CText Symbol[27]=//HUD_ALT_LOW_TEXT [HUDModeAG] Symbol[01]=HUD_FlightPath Symbol[02]=HUD_AttitudeBars Symbol[03]=HUD_HeadingScale Symbol[04]=HUD_AirspeedScale Symbol[05]=HUD_AltitudeScale Symbol[06]=HUD_CCIP Symbol[07]=HUD_G Symbol[08]=HUD_LaserTarget Symbol[09]=HUD_RollIndicator Symbol[10]=HUD_MavSeeker Symbol[11]=//HUD_BankIndicator Symbol[12]=//HUD_GSymbol Symbol[13]=HUD_RadarAltText Symbol[14]=HUD_Guncross Symbol[15]=HUD_AGModeText Symbol[16]=HUD_Max_G Symbol[17]=HUD_Mach Symbol[18]=//HUD_RSymbol Symbol[19]=HUD_ARMText Symbol[20]=//HUD_ALText Symbol[21]=HUD_CText Symbol[22]=//HUD_ALT_LOW_TEXT Then copy the HUD folder in the F-16´s cockpit folder to the F-5´s cockpit folder. Quote
Viggen Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 Guess it's going to need some more work than I thought. Avionics will need to be modernized. If anyone, wants to help me please, raise your hand now. Quote
Erwin_Hans Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) Some one from Taiwan said that they used a kind of F-5E general called F-5E-G[They called G type,not F-20]. This is a F-5E upgrade,he said this type can carry AIM-7s and AGM-65s and got a HUD same to F-16. Edited January 1, 2009 by Erwin_Hans Quote
kct Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 ...Well, I heard Singaporean ones can fire AMRAAMs. Not sure about Thai's. Quote
+Dave Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Sundowner said we can have the F-4E 2020. But it is an as is package. Is that cool? Quote
+Dave Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Some screenies. Need a loadout.ini done. Because right now you have to manually load you and your flights weps. Quote
+ace888 Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Wow!!! Excellent scheme Dave The 171 Filo "Korsar" (Pirates) sqn. Can't wait!!! Thanks Quote
+Sundowner Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 I think I had it set up to use MF weapons, the tanks are the F-4G Hill Grey ones, everything appears as it should in "my install"....but thats not saying it will work for everybody... Quote
Viper6 Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Lawd! She looks Great!! I'd gladly load up my flight weaps manually! Quote
coolpilot Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 The HUD is ready, I also modernized the radar. Quote
+ace888 Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Sundowner/Dave... another excellent job sir Coolpilot... did you upgrade the avionics on the F-5 using the F-16? (I should give it a try on my other F-5s). I upgraded my F-5EM using the F/A-18 avionics and cockpit, works great! Quote
+Dave Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7985 There you guys go. Quote
Viggen Posted January 4, 2009 Author Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) Cool Pilot gave the F-5A the F-5E's cockpit, and an F-16's HUD, and avionics. The F-5A-2000 is supposed to be upgraded to an F-16's cockpit style, so this seems fitting. EDIT: Thanks Dave Edited January 4, 2009 by JA 37 Viggen Quote
GwynO Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Cool Pilot gave the F-5A the F-5E's cockpit, and an F-16's HUD, and avionics. The F-5A-2000 is supposed to be upgraded to an F-16's cockpit style, so this seems fitting. EDIT: Thanks Dave How is it going with this? nag nag bump Quote
Viggen Posted January 26, 2009 Author Posted January 26, 2009 Two Weeks It's been pushed aside for a little while. Quote
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