F-4E-2020 Terminator and F-5-2000

[+Viggen 523]

Does anyone happen to have good, reliable info on the Turkish F-4E-2020 or F-5-2000 upgrades? I could use it since I'm trying to mod those two aircraft for a long term campaign I'm working on.

 

Most of the stuff I have on the F-4E-2020 just says that it is able to carry smart bombs and designation pods. But, does it carry ARMAAM or have onboard ECM or countermeasures? What about a HUD?

 

As to the F-5-2000, I could use just about anything on it, as all I have is that IAI is the one doing the upgrades.

[+Dave 2,319]

Try here

 

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f5.html

 

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f4.html

[+ST0RM 145]

The Turkish F-4E-2020 Terminator was a joint upgrade by IEI and TuAF Logistics. It was based off of the Kurnass-2000, but with the most current avionics of the day.

 

On the other side, the Greek Peace Icarus was based off of the German ICE program, but included a significant A-to-G capability.

 

Just based off of what I've read about each aircraft, and this is purely my opinion, the Greek Phantom appears to be more flexible and more of a complete weapon system.

 

I've yet to see a Turkish Phantom, but the Greek jets looked sweet with the IFF blades and a targeting pod slung underneath. When I last saw one, it was at a TLP at Florennes and there were some German AF F-4Fs with them. You could definately make out which were which due to those smokeless engines.

 

Good luck!

Jeff

[+Dave 2,319]

I have a 2020 mod Sundowner did with a nice skin and other refinements to the model. Let me ask if it can be released.

[+Viggen 523]

Dave, thanks for those links. That really helped. If you can get it released, great, that would make my life easier, and give me more time to work on the F-5-2000. If not, well, I guess Ukraine is going to have to wait to get weapons for it's aircraft for a different part of this long term project...

 

EDIT: Wow, my internet is slow today!

Edited December 31, 2008 by JA 37 Viggen

[+Viggen 523]

I'm going to need a little bit of help with the F-5A-2000's avionics/cockpit. I want to add the HUD from the F-16A Block 15 BAF, but, I have no idea as to how to do that.

Edited January 1, 2009 by JA 37 Viggen

[coolpilot 2]

You have to add a HUD to the instruments list in the cockpit.ini

an example with the F-16A ADF :

Instrument[019]=RWR

Instrument[020]=RadarScope

Instrument[021]=HUD

then this entry below:

 

[HUD]

Type=HUD

NodeName=HUD

 

Then in the avionics.ini you have to copy the HUD related entries from the F-16´s avionics.ini and paste them F-5´s.

This is what you should copy and paste (a part of):

[HUD]

HUDColor=0.0,1.0,0.0,0.7

BoresightOffset=0.0,0.0

ViewportTopLeft=-0.125,-0.09

ViewportBottomRight=0.125,0.212

GunBoresightAngle=-0.50

RocketBoresightAngle=0

 

[HUDFont]

TextFontName=Arial

TextSize=11

TextBold=TRUE

 

[HUDModeNav]

Symbol[01]=HUD_FlightPath

Symbol[02]=HUD_AttitudeBars

Symbol[03]=HUD_HeadingScale

Symbol[04]=HUD_AirspeedScale

Symbol[05]=HUD_AltitudeScale

Symbol[06]=HUD_NavModeText

Symbol[07]=HUD_WaypointID

Symbol[08]=HUD_WaypointRange

Symbol[09]=//HUD_waterline

Symbol[10]=HUD_TD

Symbol[11]=HUD_G

Symbol[12]=HUD_LaserTarget

Symbol[13]=//HUD_BankIndicator

Symbol[14]=//HUD_GSymbol

Symbol[15]=//HUD_WPSymbol

Symbol[16]=HUD_Mach

Symbol[17]=HUD_RadarRange

Symbol[18]=HUD_CText

Symbol[19]=//HUD_ALT_LOW_TEXT

Symbol[20]=HUD_RadarAltText

Symbol[21]=HUD_ALText

 

[HUDModeAA]

Symbol[01]=HUD_FlightPath

Symbol[02]=HUD_AttitudeBars

Symbol[03]=HUD_HeadingScale

Symbol[04]=HUD_AirspeedScale

Symbol[05]=HUD_AltitudeScale

Symbol[06]=HUD_LCOS

Symbol[07]=HUD_TD

Symbol[08]=HUD_SRM

Symbol[09]=//HUD_Alpha

Symbol[10]=HUD_Mach

Symbol[11]=HUD_G

Symbol[12]=//HUD_AlphaSymbol

Symbol[13]=HUD_RadarRange

Symbol[14]=HUD_ASE_SRM

Symbol[15]=HUD_ASE_MRM

Symbol[16]=//HUD_BankIndicator

Symbol[17]=HUD_Max_G

Symbol[18]=//HUD_GSymbol

Symbol[19]=//HUD_MachSymbol

Symbol[20]=HUD_Guncross

Symbol[21]=HUD_AAModeText

Symbol[22]=HUD_RadarAltText

Symbol[23]=//HUD_RSymbol

Symbol[24]=HUD_ARMText

Symbol[25]=//HUD_ALText

Symbol[26]=HUD_CText

Symbol[27]=//HUD_ALT_LOW_TEXT

 

[HUDModeAG]

Symbol[01]=HUD_FlightPath

Symbol[02]=HUD_AttitudeBars

Symbol[03]=HUD_HeadingScale

Symbol[04]=HUD_AirspeedScale

Symbol[05]=HUD_AltitudeScale

Symbol[06]=HUD_CCIP

Symbol[07]=HUD_G

Symbol[08]=HUD_LaserTarget

Symbol[09]=HUD_RollIndicator

Symbol[10]=HUD_MavSeeker

Symbol[11]=//HUD_BankIndicator

Symbol[12]=//HUD_GSymbol

Symbol[13]=HUD_RadarAltText

Symbol[14]=HUD_Guncross

Symbol[15]=HUD_AGModeText

Symbol[16]=HUD_Max_G

Symbol[17]=HUD_Mach

Symbol[18]=//HUD_RSymbol

Symbol[19]=HUD_ARMText

Symbol[20]=//HUD_ALText

Symbol[21]=HUD_CText

Symbol[22]=//HUD_ALT_LOW_TEXT

 

Then copy the HUD folder in the F-16´s cockpit folder to the F-5´s cockpit folder.

[+Viggen 523]

Guess it's going to need some more work than I thought. Avionics will need to be modernized. If anyone, wants to help me please, raise your hand now.

[coolpilot 2]

[Erwin_Hans 6]

Some one from Taiwan said that they used a kind of F-5E general called F-5E-G[They called G type,not F-20].

 

This is a F-5E upgrade,he said this type can carry AIM-7s and AGM-65s and got a HUD same to F-16.

 

Edited January 1, 2009 by Erwin_Hans

[kct 5]

...Well, I heard Singaporean ones can fire AMRAAMs. Not sure about Thai's.

[+Dave 2,319]

Sundowner said we can have the F-4E 2020. But it is an as is package. Is that cool?

[+Viggen 523]

That's excellent!

[Viper6 3]

Yes Let's roll!

[+Dave 2,319]

Some screenies.

 

Need a loadout.ini done. Because right now you have to manually load you and your flights weps.

[+ace888 327]

Wow!!! Excellent scheme Dave The 171 Filo "Korsar" (Pirates) sqn. Can't wait!!! Thanks

[+Sundowner 4,583]

I think I had it set up to use MF weapons, the tanks are the F-4G Hill Grey ones, everything appears as it should in "my install"....but thats not saying it will work for everybody...

 

[Viper6 3]

Lawd! She looks Great!! I'd gladly load up my flight weaps manually!

[coolpilot 2]

The HUD is ready, I also modernized the radar.

[+ace888 327]

Sundowner/Dave... another excellent job sir

 

Coolpilot... did you upgrade the avionics on the F-5 using the F-16? (I should give it a try on my other F-5s). I upgraded my F-5EM using the F/A-18 avionics and cockpit, works great!

[+Dave 2,319]

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7985

 

There you guys go.

[+Viggen 523]

Cool Pilot gave the F-5A the F-5E's cockpit, and an F-16's HUD, and avionics. The F-5A-2000 is supposed to be upgraded to an F-16's cockpit style, so this seems fitting.

 

 

EDIT: Thanks Dave

Edited January 4, 2009 by JA 37 Viggen

[kct 5]

Oh, like FINALLY.

[GwynO 16]

Cool Pilot gave the F-5A the F-5E's cockpit, and an F-16's HUD, and avionics. The F-5A-2000 is supposed to be upgraded to an F-16's cockpit style, so this seems fitting.

 

 

EDIT: Thanks Dave

 

 

How is it going with this? nag nag bump

[+Viggen 523]

Two Weeks It's been pushed aside for a little while.