+Dave Posted February 8, 2011 Author Posted February 8, 2011 Never been a fan of the SEA wraparound so I am going to stick with the pre-wrap around style. Drdoyo's skins are nice but arent the same in detail or resolution as Sundowners templates. As far as the gun muzzle on the hill bird, I've been trying to find where its at so I can do just that. Any idea where its at? Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 the muzzle is on f-4e_5 towards the middle right. using wrench's 377th skin your 81st skin to compare in gimp(wrench's kinda blanks out the muzzle hole)its rough location is upper left corner 1900,600 lower right corner 2048,925 hopefully that helps now watch you say you dont use Gimp!(dammit!!!) as for wraparound, i am trying to get the last few active units down before releasing SEA Wrap and Euro 1 with big decal folder for all active units. it'll be for stock F-4D and E models post vietnam(read post 72) with hill 2 shortly after and ANG AFRES units much later. how long have i been working it? (hum the giligans island theme) when will it be done. well you knw that one:good: Quote
Spinners Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 We Phantom fans are being spoilt! Superb work! Quote
+Sundowner Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Here's few more lying around on me hd if you want's 'em Quote
Wrench Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 "if we want's 'em"??? oh, twist my arm!!! wrench kevin stein Quote
+Sundowner Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Also found an RS coded bird 90% done in SEA wrap camo. I'd started doing all the USAFE F-4 units a while ago........Soooooooo much stuff I'd forgot all about Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 We Phantom fans are being spoilt! Superb work! no more for you Spinners my eyes still hurt from the swedish Phantom! :lol: Sundowner they look great! finally some love for the USAFE side of the house! question to all though, why dont more of you guys use Wrenchs mod for the EF-4C that allowed 3 Sparrows and ECM??? Quote
+Dave Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 no more for you Spinners my eyes still hurt from the swedish Phantom! :lol: Sundowner they look great! finally some love for the USAFE side of the house! question to all though, why dont more of you guys use Wrenchs mod for the EF-4C that allowed 3 Sparrows and ECM??? Has he done one for the ARNie? Me, half assed skinner yes, ini work no...... Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) lemme see i redid all Phantom data inis (minus the brits, story for nother day) to show Sparrow station 1 as station group 5 and all the other three as group 4. Sparrow 1 also can fit LP and EP, to accomdate ECM and Pave Spike. got the idea from wrench tho its not exact on his EF-4C. course all my Phantoms minus any _78's and later have Spill104's smokier J79 mod included as well. Phantoms got "smokeless" engines round the 80's so i leave it as the stock dirtyexhaust emitter for the late model birds. finally if you add the A-10 loadout mod that allows 4 Mavericks as opposed to 6 or 2, it adds a bit o realism since only 4 were carried due to drag concerns usually. and i learned how to do all this only since Gen 2 came out! gen 1 i could barely run plug and play mods Edited February 9, 2011 by daddyairplanes Quote
+Dave Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 90th TFS lemme see i redid all Phantom data inis (minus the brits, story for nother day) to show Sparrow station 1 as station group 5 and all the other three as group 4. Sparrow 1 also can fit LP and EP, to accomdate ECM and Pave Spike. got the idea from wrench tho its not exact on his EF-4C. course all my Phantoms minus any _78's and later have Spill104's smokier J79 mod included as well. Phantoms got "smokeless" engines round the 80's so i leave it as the stock dirtyexhaust emitter for the late model birds. finally if you add the A-10 loadout mod that allows 4 Mavericks as opposed to 6 or 2, it adds a bit o realism since only 4 were carried due to drag concerns usually. and i learned how to do all this only since Gen 2 came out! gen 1 i could barely run plug and play mods Hook me up with the ARNie ini stuff if yo have it please.... Quote
Wrench Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 what, for the regouped Sparrows?? Shhoottt man, I been doing that since 2003!! for the 86: [sparrowStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=5 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=-0.501,5.07,-0.84 AttachmentAngles=2.0,0.0,2.0 MissileRollAngle=45.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=290.0 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP AttachmentType=NATO,USAF MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [sparrowStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=4 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=0.501,5.07,-0.84 AttachmentAngles=-2.0,0.0,-2.0 MissileRollAngle=45.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=290.0 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM AttachmentType=NATO,USAF MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [sparrowStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=4 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=-1.08,-0.65,-0.87 AttachmentAngles=0.0,2.0,5.0 MissileRollAngle=45.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=231.5 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM AttachmentType=NATO,USAF MinExtentPosition= 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(unless it's FMs!!!) wrench kevin stein Quote
Wrench Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 IIRC, it's also in the old "Editing Bunyap's Weapons Pak" thread in the 1stGen KB, and somewhere in the downlods section ("3 Sparrows & a Jammer") --- it's a really old trick; but works on ALL Rhinos. One just needs to double check the GropeIDs for the sparrow stations. And, historicality too. wrench kevin stein Quote
+Dave Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 3rd TFS IIRC, it's also in the old "Editing Bunyap's Weapons Pak" thread in the 1stGen KB, and somewhere in the downlods section ("3 Sparrows & a Jammer") --- it's a really old trick; but works on ALL Rhinos. One just needs to double check the GropeIDs for the sparrow stations. And, historicality too. wrench kevin stein Kevin if you have them handy for the ARNie can you post them here? Im asshole deep in skinning.... Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 IIRC, it's also in the old "Editing Bunyap's Weapons Pak" thread in the 1stGen KB, and somewhere in the downlods section ("3 Sparrows & a Jammer") --- it's a really old trick; but works on ALL Rhinos. One just needs to double check the GropeIDs for the sparrow stations. And, historicality too. wrench kevin stein yes sir pretty much for all Post nam USAF Phantoms. Navy tended to carry internally esp with late model birds (late Nam to the 80s) and brits for some reason i have never seen a photo of them carrying ECM! still i originally found out about it from your mod so i personally credit you fer me discovery. its not exactly the same but works same principal. btw GROPE ID's!?!??!?! thought those led to arrests @ dave nice Euro1! funny how being far from HQ they didnt give a !@# and had full color sharks maouths as opposed to 52d TFW! Quote
+Dave Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 DA All I did was add unit decals, odds and ends. All these skins themselves are all Sundowner. Quote
Wrench Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 those data sn loadout inis a couple posts back ARE the arinies!! (also usable on all Es) wrench kevin stein Quote
+Sundowner Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) These are the E's that I've found [so far]. Its also worth bearing in mind that in the early days [pre 1971 I think] most wings had individual tail codes for each sqn, BT,BR & BS for the 36 TFW, Woodbridge/Bentwaters were WT,WR & WS. Edited February 9, 2011 by Sundowner Quote
+Dave Posted February 11, 2011 Author Posted February 11, 2011 Helps when you put it on the right D model. Quote
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