Nixou 25 Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Article: http://www.avionews.com/index.php?corpo=see_news_home.php&news_id=1129912&pagina_chiamante=index.php Edited May 25, 2011 by Nix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,315 Posted May 25, 2011 Politicians are slow thinking people who dont know what is neccessary to do in a war. Its time to send in combat helicopters. But only 10 helis? Is this all France can send? Its poor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nixou 25 Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Politicians are slow thinking people who dont know what is neccessary to do in a war. Its time to send in combat helicopters. But only 10 helis? Is this all France can send? Its poor From the wikipedia article, right now France has (in total) 23 tigers, Australia 18, Germany 11 and Spain 5. Its a recent production which hasn't reached the quarter of the full orders. Plus they have to be shipped on a carrier, so it's limited to the carrier space you can't have thousands of them. Helicopters aren't going to travel from europe to north afrika by themselves. Remember that there is (at the moment) no any western base nor soldiers in Libya.We are supposed to provide an aerial help, not to make the war by ourselves. Edited May 25, 2011 by Nix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+allenjb42 4,234 Posted May 27, 2011 Looks like the British are sending 4 Apaches too. Wasn't Prince Harry supposed to be training on these? Well he did say he wanted to see more action after being forced to come home early from Afghanistan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SkippyBing 8 Posted May 28, 2011 Harry's still on the OCU as I understand it (I know someone on the same course). The 4 Apaches were already on Ocean for Op Cougar*, be interesting to see if they swap some of the other stuff on there for more Apaches. *Op Cougar was/is an Amphib deployment by the RN that was planned months ago and had nothing to do with Libya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+ianh755 196 Posted May 30, 2011 Helicopters aren't going to travel from europe to north afrika by themselves. Slightly off topic but we used to fly from the UK to Iraq and back all the time in Merlin HC3's, we just had to stop twice a day for fuel (oh and fit a 5th fuel tank/bladder inside) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,315 Posted June 4, 2011 Since yesterday british and french combat helicopter are in combat over Libya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,315 Posted June 10, 2011 Norway will retreat its 4 F-16 from the airstrikes against Libya by the end of July. Danmark is low on bombs. UK is crying how expensive the war against Libya is. And US defence minister is angry about the unable european NATO contries. What a nice alliance. With such allies you need no enemy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted June 10, 2011 Ahh dont worry - always money for war it seems they will find some somewhere - and probably more as they are taking a UN sanctions trip against Syria now. End of July is still quite a long time - especially for those old airframes! Isnt there loads of other NATO countries willing to step in........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted June 10, 2011 It is funny though that they spend all this money on troops and machines and then fail to buy enough munitions to fight more than a few weeks. Eternal optimism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Julhelm 266 Posted June 10, 2011 Well we need to save our stash in case the russians are coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,315 Posted June 29, 2011 The NATO is urgently looking for smart bombs, because UK and France are running out of this weapons. A request came to Germany wheter it could help with spare parts and bombs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macelena 1,070 Posted June 29, 2011 Concepts like "Stock Zero" and "NRF", they just don´t match too well, do they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capitaine Vengeur 263 Posted June 30, 2011 I've heard that the Armée de l'Air has already been reduced for a while to drop practice bombs to save ammunitions. We'll soon have to drop darts, breeze blocks, wrenches, bags of bolts, and Bastille-Day bangers! It wouldn't sound class at all if Gadaffi was wounded by a wrench on his foot, would it? It is not new to the Armée de l'Air. I've read that in 1991, in spite of months of preparation, they began Desert Storm with less than 60 AS30 Laser. In spite of 95% accuracy, they soon ran out of them, and had to modify their Jaguars in order for them to carry the Paveways they had begged from US units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toryu 156 Posted June 30, 2011 There's always some stuff around to throw at people... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted June 30, 2011 Should change the name from Paper Tiger to Porcelain Tiger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites