+FLOGGER23 3,065 Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Well, after spent the whole day in Photoshop, i´ve finished my first skin, far from prefect, i still need to ask to the master skinners: What do i need to make the metal parts to shine? If you see, the radome, has a different color, is there a reason for that? what is the best way to get stenciling and to make decals or even better, where i can get markings for planes, most interested in Soviet Floggers, since i plan to make several skins more. TIA and i leave you the pics, all comments are welcome:) Hey for some reason a 119Kb pic is taken as 15Mb and can´t upload it, any issue right now? Edited January 27, 2012 by FLOGGER23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SidDogg 130 Posted January 28, 2012 You have to look back throught your account and choose Manage Attachments. ...it seems it's time to delete some of your posted pics from the past... I've run into that, myself. SidDogg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FLOGGER23 3,065 Posted January 28, 2012 Yep, done SidDogg now here are the pics, thanks: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+EricJ 4,252 Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Better color tones... http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/schemes/rusaf_mig23ub_e.htm It's a lot better to find something like the Don Color site because using the eyedropper tool to get the colors off photos gives you sometimes bad results. Buuut don't get discouraged as your skin is pretty nice Doing a proper skin takes a lot of research and sometimes Google Fu and work... And this may help too: http://562.50megs.com/LOMAC/Tutorials/LST.zip (Adobe PDF) Edited January 28, 2012 by EricJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Svetlin 547 Posted January 28, 2012 [*]If you see, the radome, has a different color, is there a reason for that? I think it is because different settings were used for making the base MF MiG-23M/MF model and for making the parts to turn the base model into a MiG-23UB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar512 1,350 Posted January 28, 2012 What do i need to make the metal parts to shine? That's either done directly, through the LOD, or indirectly, through a specular map. In both cases, it is the developer who needs to set that in the model. I do not belive that the Thirdwire Floggers have spec maps associated to them, at this point. The radome, has a different color, is there a reason for that? More than likely, special paint that won't effect (or reduce) the radar's operation and range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stick 773 Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) 'More than likely, special paint that won't effect (or reduce) the radar's operation and range.' :grin:BWAHAAAHHAAAA!<br>Sobers up, concedes, but in real life.<br> Edited January 28, 2012 by Stick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+KnightWolf45 1,147 Posted January 29, 2012 heres the problem 18 Materials: ( 1) Fuselage: Mig-23_01.bmp ( 2) LeftWing: Mig-23_04.bmp ( 3) Feux_nav: Transparency enabled Self-illumination enabled Specular=0.76, Glossiness=0.15, Color:<229,229,229> Reflection=1.00 Mig-23_Light.tga ( 4) LeftWing-noshine: Specular=0.00, Glossiness=0.00, Color:<0,0,0> Reflection=0.00 Mig-23_04.bmp ( 5) RightWing: Mig-23_06.bmp ( 6) RightWing-noshine: Specular=0.00, Glossiness=0.00, Color:<0,0,0> Reflection=0.00 Mig-23_06.bmp ( 7) FuselageNose-noshine: Specular=0.00, Glossiness=0.00, Color:<0,0,0> Reflection=0.00 Mig-23_02.bmp ( 8) Mig-23_05-noshine: Specular=0.00, Glossiness=0.00, Color:<0,0,0> Reflection=0.00 Mig-23_05.bmp ( 9) Fuselage-noshine: Specular=0.00, Glossiness=0.00, Color:<0,0,0> Reflection=0.00 Mig-23_01.bmp ( 10) RearFuselage: Mig-23_03.bmp ( 11) FuselageNose: Mig-23_02.bmp ( 12) RearFuselage-noshine: Specular=0.00, Glossiness=0.00, Color:<0,0,0> Reflection=0.00 Mig-23_03.bmp ( 13) RearFuselage-baremetal: Specular=0.92, Glossiness=0.10, Color:<229,229,229> Reflection=1.00 Mig-23_03.bmp ( 14) Mig-23_05-baremetal: Specular=0.92, Glossiness=0.10, Color:<229,229,229> Reflection=1.00 Mig-23_05.bmp ( 15) Chute: Specular=0.00, Glossiness=0.00, Color:<0,0,0> Reflection=0.20 CHUTE.bmp ( 16) Vitre: Transparency enabled CANOPYGLASS.TGA ( 17) Mig-23_05: Mig-23_05.bmp ( 18) FuselageNose-baremetal: Specular=0.92, Glossiness=0.15, Color:<229,229,229> Reflection=1.00 Mig-23_02.bmp part of aircraft were given diferent specular values in max btw flogger23 his using ebuger 23/27 pack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,255 Posted January 29, 2012 That's either done directly, through the LOD, or indirectly, through a specular map. In both cases, it is the developer who needs to set that in the model. I do not belive that the Thirdwire Floggers have spec maps associated to them, at this point. More than likely, special paint that won't effect (or reduce) the radar's operation and range. also i think some radomes or at least parts of them are molded in the needed color, tho this can lead to hiccups in the supply system. i remember reading that the early F-15s had black tips on the radome when they were initially painted AS blue. but later when only the Luke based Eagles were in AS, the supply system still had many black tips and so those tips could be seen on Eagles throughout the 80's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Soulfreak 6,525 Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) Better color tones... http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/schemes/rusaf_mig23ub_e.htm Russian UB.... This should fit better Flogger! http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/37/pics/5_16.jpg LSK Numbers: 101 MiG-23UB A1037825 absturz 17.07.87 102 MiG-23UB A1037826 > 20+61, ausgestellt Bensheim 103 MiG-23UB A1038506 > 20+57, ausgestellt Finow Museum 104 MiG-23UB A1037901 > 20+62, ausgestellt Cottbus Museum 105 MiG-23UB A1037902 > 20+63, ausgestellt Berlin-Gatow Museum 106 MiG-23UB A1038034 > 20+58, ausgestellt Bad Oeynhausen Museum 107 MiG-23UB A1038221 > 20+59, ausgestellt Lanaken, Belgien 108 MiG-23UB A1038222 absturz 03.10.83 109 MiG-23UB A1038280 > 20+60, ausgestellt Fichtelberg 110 MiG-23UB A1038285 absturz 21.05.86 Edited January 30, 2012 by Soulfreak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FLOGGER23 3,065 Posted January 30, 2012 Well apologies i got my colors from the below pic, because i couldn`t get real pics: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Soulfreak 6,525 Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) I think that profile is wrong. saw a lot of Pictures of German MiG-23UBs and they look all very different. check out airfighters.com. There are a lot of pictures taken around the time of the German reunion. There are also some pics of German 23UBs.... But i will contact some people who may know more about the 23UB camo schemes. Edited January 30, 2012 by Soulfreak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Soulfreak 6,525 Posted January 30, 2012 hope these help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FLOGGER23 3,065 Posted January 30, 2012 Cool, i will make the changes, and post pics soon for your evaluation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Soulfreak 6,525 Posted January 31, 2012 btw, i think i did all LSK numbers for my grey UB skin, released a long time ago... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FLOGGER23 3,065 Posted January 31, 2012 I think i have them, can i use them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FLOGGER23 3,065 Posted January 31, 2012 BTW. i have the MiG-27 templates almost finished, just need to add the riveting, if you are interested for your BN's, i had them in the agenda too, but i think you can make them better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
