+dtmdragon Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7442063/Sale-of-17-air-force-jets-gets-nod
+daddyairplanes Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 would have been better if they were flying in their native skies again but we'll put them to good use. any word of Kiwi pilots coming with to fly em?
+dtmdragon Posted August 9, 2012 Author Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) I think most of them will be happy flying fast jets for the RAAF, RAF or wherever else snapped them up when they got the old 'don't come Monday' letter from Helen Clark Edited August 9, 2012 by dtmdragon
+SayethWhaaaa Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Stoked to here they and the Macchi's will be back in the air again!
Viggen Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Always great to hear about planes retaking to the skies, though it is disappointing they won't be flying with the RNZAF.
SpinyNorman Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 we should just do what we do with our old Dakotas and stick them up outside Cafes :) Paint them in 'Cookie Time' colours.
Lazarus1177 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Good to know that they will fly again.But,I don't think they would be too useful now against modern threats.
B52STRATO Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Good to know that they will fly again.But,I don't think they would be too useful now against modern threats. It's true we might doubt about it, but after all, History has shown that a senior pilot in an obsolete aircraft could hold sway over his opponent with no experience and flying a new generation plane. 2
MAKO69 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Some of Daken Intl Skyhawks, hope they don't paint the KIWI Hawks like these. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GBwI9aL-k7s
MAKO69 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Good to know that they will fly again.But,I don't think they would be too useful now against modern threats. It may not be able to fight a 4th or 5th gen fighter in BVR but, a close in fight it could pose a problem for a 4th or 5th gen plane. Don't forget it's a sheep in wolf's clothing. state of the art war computers and radar from the early 90's, not to mention the timless ability to bring a lot mud moving gear.
Lazarus1177 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 It's true we might doubt about it, but after all, History has shown that a senior pilot in an obsolete aircraft could hold sway over his opponent with no experience and flying a new generation plane. Couldn't have said it better!
+JediMaster Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 They'll likely be flown by top pilots with lots of experience, not trainees. They'll be deadly in the scenarios they use them in, even though they'd be of questionable use in actual combat.
+Typhoid Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Excellent use for these aircraft. We used to use our A-4's in the aggressor role for DACT. We called them "Mig-4's" Good to seem these aircraft put to that very good use.
+JediMaster Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 None. Ground or air combat-capable, anyway. P-3s and helos are it AFAIK.
Jug Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 I guess the non-existant Kiwi AF is based on some threat assessment study. Hope nobody wants their islands that is better equipped.
+JediMaster Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 Well, frankly they're out of range of most land-based planes launched from anywhere other than Australia, with whom they have a defense treaty. Really the only threat to them other than subs would be if some regional power got a strong navy down there. Right now that's not a concern. In 20 years, who knows?
MAKO69 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I'm just lookin forward to these babies flying again. Can't wait to see the 1st pics.
+SkateZilla Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) What kind of aircraft are the Kiwi's now flying? None, the A-4s they had are retired as well as the MB339 Squadrons. Their deal to purchase F-16s in 2000 was denied. Edited August 23, 2012 by SkateZilla
Derk Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Well, frankly they're out of range of most land-based planes launched from anywhere other than Australia, with whom they have a defense treaty. Really the only threat to them other than subs would be if some regional power got a strong navy down there. Right now that's not a concern. In 20 years, who knows? We had a lot of fun with this subject last Apri/May in these forums: http://combatace.com/topic/71554-option-for-rnzafs-new-strike-fighter/ Edited August 23, 2012 by Derk
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