+eburger68 201 Posted August 18, 2012 View File SF2 SAMs Pack -------------------------------------------- SF2 SAMs Pack -------------------------------------------- This package collects updated versions of most SAMs that have been released for the Strike Fighters series at ComabtAce.com. Updates performed include the following: - added new versions of existing SAMs (e.g., an SA-5BL on top of the existing SA-5L) - added new skins (Green or Tan) to objects that lacked one or the other - added missing Freq data to a number of radars - implemented numerous tweaks to launchers & radars to standardize data and improve performance - overhauled weapons to standardize data (w/ 3rdWire weapons as baselines) & improve performance - added RadarFamily data w/ associated TEWs entries and TGAs Please review the following section for notes on what's included in this package and how to install the various components. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Package Contents ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the root of whatever folder you unpack this mod to, you will find the following standalone files, which include data to be added to various config files: - MISSILEOBJECT_ADDITIONS.TXT: additions to MissileObject.INI, which should be unpacked from the ObjectData001.CAT in your SF2 installation directory and placed in \Objects in your Mods Folder. - SOUNDLIST_ADDITIONS.TXT: additions to SoundList.INI, which should be unpacked from the FlightData.CAT in your SF2 installation directory and placed in \Flight in your Mods Folder. - RWR-LST_ADDITIONS.TXT: additions to individual aircraft RWR.LSTs (these reference the new TGAs included in \Flight) NOTE: to unpack files from CATs, you will need the ThirdWire CAT Extractor tool, which can be found at ThirdWire's web site: http://thirdwire.com/downloads_tools.htm * * * You will also find the following directories, which include the main installation files: \EFFECTS: effects for the various weapons included; to be placed in \Effects in your Mods Folder. \FLIGHT: new RWR TGAs for TEWS RWRs; to be placed in \Flight in your Mods Folder. \SOUNDS: sounds for the various weapons and ground objects; to be placed in \Sounds in your Mods Folder. \OBJECTS\GROUNDOBJECT_BLUE: "friendly" (mostly NATO) SAM launchers and radars; to be placed in \Objects\GroundObject in your Mods Folder. \OBJECTS\GROUNDOBJECT_RED: "enemy" (mostly Soviet/WP) SAM launchers and radars; to be placed in \Objects\GroundObject in your Mods Folder. \OBJECTS\GROUNDOBJECT_XTRA: optional versions of various "Red" or "Blue" ground objects that use different models (but closely follow the "original" Red or Blue objects); use these only as replacements for the corresponding main ground objects. \OBJECTS\GUNS: several guns for the several launchers that have them; to be placed in \Objects\Guns in your Mods Folder. \OBJECTS\WEAPONS: the missiles for the launchers; to be placed in \Objects\Weapons in your Mods Folder. \_SAM_SITES: data and files for building SAM sites in terrains and single missions -- for experienced terrain modders only. NOTE: if you need assistance installing these items, please consult the KnowledgeBase at CombatAce.com: KB for SF2 http://combatace.com/forum/268-thirdwire-strike-fighters-2-series-knowledge-base/ KB for SF1 http://combatace.com/forum/99-thirdwire-strike-fighters-1-series-knowledge-base/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Credits ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This mod package collects a large number of launchers, radars, weapons, and other files previously released at CombatAce.com in various packs or standalone mods: Pasko ......................................... "SAMs and Vehicles Pack: Euro & Desert" The Mirage Factory ............................ Weapons Packs for SFP1/WOE/WOI ErikGen ....................................... NIKE 4xMIM-14, HIPAR, LoPAR, & TTR Abhi, SUICIDAL, & YEYEYE....................... AN/TWQ-1 Avenger, Pantsir-S1 bigal1 ........................................ Bloodhound SAM Kesselbrut .................................... ADATS, Rapier, Blindfire, Skyguard, Roland_Shelter, SA-9 Pasko ......................................... Chaparral, Hawk launcher & radars, EW_Radar, SA-3 launchers, Flatface, Sidenet Fubar512 & Wrench ............................. Hawk INI tweaks Florian ....................................... Roland Rad CrazyhorseB34 ................................. Roland Rad desert skin FastCargo ..................................... SA-5, SquarePair, Firelight (based on SquarePair) Monty CZ....................................... SA-10 & Flaplid, Stinger site Fubar512 ...................................... SA-10 INI tweaks EricJ ......................................... SA-11 & SA-17 EricJ & winterhunter .......................... Starstreak Stormer Gabilon ....................................... 2S6, Tor-M1, SA-13, MRoland YEYEYE ........................................ PAC-2/PAC-3 system, Akash SAM, TubeArm Gerald14 & Kesselbrut ......................... M6 Linebacker BANIDOS Team .................................. TAM VCLM rebel ryder ................................... BRDM-SA9 Unknown author ................................ SA-8 & SA-9 (alternates from TMF Weapons Packs) ThirdWire ..................................... SA-2, SA-6, SA-8, Barlock, Fansong, StraightFlush WhiteBoySamurai ............................... R440/FM-80 Nicholas Bell ................................. WOE Air Defense Mod (Hawk Sites) Wrench ........................................ Hawk Site upgrades/layout Fubar512 ...................................... NIKE-Hercules sites layout/placement OldDiego ...................................... SAMSite01 If I have neglected to credit anyone whose work is included in this package, please let me know and I will correct this list of credits ASAP. --------------- Eric Howes eburger68 16 August 2012 Submitter eburger68 Submitted 08/18/2012 Category Ground Object Mods 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted August 18, 2012 sweet pack there Eric! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted August 19, 2012 If anyone would care to list all the stock aircraft that have TEWS RWR's, I'll extract all the RWR.lst files and update them, and then post them to save on duplicating work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,849 Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) good luck with that ... the RWR lists have disappeared from the extractable cats (see my 'Things that annoy me greatly thread). best thing is to extract all the avaionics inis for those aircraft (usually with a 78 or later operating start year), and use add these to dtmdragon's generic list (which actually has most of them already) unfortunately, I really didn't archive the pre-Jan 2012 rwr lists, but did find a few (very few!!) below, is a stock 3W rwr list (iirc, from the F-15A -all others are exactly the same) F-4=RWR_F-4.tgaF-8=RWR_F-8.tga F-14=RWR_F-14.tga F-15=RWR_F-15.tga F-16=RWR_F-16.tga F-18=RWR_F-18.tga NASARR=RWR_F-104.tga ScanOdd=RWR_MIG-17.tga SpinScan=RWR_MIG-21.tga JayBird=RWR_MIG-21.tga HighLark=RWR_MIG-23.tga FoxFire=RWR_MIG-25.tga Cyrano=RWR_Mirage3.tga BarLock=RWR_Search.tga LongTrack=RWR_Search.tga DogEar=RWR_Search.tga AAA=RWR_AAA.tga Hawk=RWR_Hawk.tga M163=RWR_M163.tga SA-2=RWR_SA-2.tga SA-3=RWR_SA-3.tga SA-6=RWR_SA-6.tga SA-8=RWR_SA-8.tga ZSU-23=RWR_ZSU-23.tga build from there; but cross-check with dtmdragons!!! Edited August 19, 2012 by Wrench Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted August 19, 2012 Good point wrench. I forgot about them being locked away. I guess it's just a matter then of creatibg one generic .lst and renaming it for each stock aircraft that needs one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SupGen 79 Posted August 19, 2012 What cat. file are the RWR list files in? And when did they dissapear? I've got a June2010 install that I've been looking through, and I don't see them. All the TGA.s are there, but no joy on the lists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,849 Posted August 19, 2012 that's exactly what I just said. using a generic, like Dan did, called "RWR.lst", and drop into each aircraft's main folder. Extratct all the needed avionics inis, and edit the ThreatLibrary= line, drop in each aricraft's main folder. [RWR] Type=TEWS AirSearchTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga AirTrackTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga AirLockTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga GroundSearchTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga GroundTrackTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga GroundLockTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga MissileActivityTexture=RWR_Missile.tga PriorityTexture=RWR_Priority.tga SearchSize=0.20 TrackSize=0.20 LockSize=0.20 SearchFlash=FALSE TrackFlash=FALSE LockFlash=TRUE LockFlashRate=0.1 TrackSound=RWRTrackSound.wav LockSound=RWRLockSound.wav FlashActivityOnLaunch=TRUE ThreatLibraryFile=RWR.lst Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SupGen 79 Posted August 19, 2012 HAH! Got 'em! You have to use an older version of the Cat extracter- the new version doesn't "see" the RWR lists. Here's the A-10A_78_RWR.LST. F-4=RWR_F-4.tga F-8=RWR_F-8.tga F-14=RWR_F-14.tga F-15=RWR_F-15.tga F-16=RWR_F-16.tga F-18=RWR_F-18.tga NASARR=RWR_F-104.tga ScanOdd=RWR_MIG-17.tga SpinScan=RWR_MIG-21.tga JayBird=RWR_MIG-21.tga HighLark=RWR_MIG-23.tga FoxFire=RWR_MIG-25.tga Cyrano=RWR_Mirage3.tga BarLock=RWR_Search.tga LongTrack=RWR_Search.tga DogEar=RWR_Search.tga AAA=RWR_AAA.tga Hawk=RWR_Hawk.tga M163=RWR_M163.tga SA-2=RWR_SA-2.tga SA-3=RWR_SA-3.tga SA-6=RWR_SA-6.tga SA-8=RWR_SA-8.tga ZSU-23=RWR_ZSU-23.tga If you've got an old extracter, extract away! If not, let me know, I can do it later tonight, got some RL duties calling right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,849 Posted August 19, 2012 isn't that was I just posted above??? Seriously.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SupGen 79 Posted August 19, 2012 Wrench, the list may be identical, but what you didn't post is that the RWR lists are not "locked away" if you use an earlier version of the Cat extracter on a pre-NA version of the game. You can just scroll through the Cats and see which aircraft have one, which was malibu43's original question. Seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,849 Posted August 20, 2012 if you use an earlier version of the Cat extracter on a pre-NA version of the game ok, and exactly how many folks DON'T have full-5 merged, at the latest patch level??? THAT'S the point I was trying to make. Once you've added NA, you're f***ed. Hence, the reason some of us archived pre-Jan 2012 extracted cats; even if the don't have all the bells and whistles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+SupGen 79 Posted August 20, 2012 Wrench, I'e got a 1) Full five [seven], merged, latest patch level, 2) Full five [seven], merged, April 2012 patch level, 3) NA stand alone, April 2012 patch level, and 4) Full four, merged, June 2010 patch level. My point is if you or malibu43 need a list of aircraft that have TEWS RWRs or the RWR lists themselves, I can give you either one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) that's exactly what I just said. using a generic, like Dan did, called "RWR.lst", and drop into each aircraft's main folder. Extratct all the needed avionics inis, and edit the ThreatLibrary= line, drop in each aricraft's main folder. [RWR] Type=TEWS AirSearchTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga AirTrackTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga AirLockTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga GroundSearchTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga GroundTrackTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga GroundLockTexture=RWR_Unknown.tga MissileActivityTexture=RWR_Missile.tga PriorityTexture=RWR_Priority.tga SearchSize=0.20 TrackSize=0.20 LockSize=0.20 SearchFlash=FALSE TrackFlash=FALSE LockFlash=TRUE LockFlashRate=0.1 TrackSound=RWRTrackSound.wav LockSound=RWRLockSound.wav FlashActivityOnLaunch=TRUE ThreatLibraryFile=RWR.lst I was actually suggesting something different. Instead of dropping the generic RWR.lst into each aircraft's folder and then editing extracted files to point to it, I was suggesting creating multiple copies of the generic RWR.lst and naming the copies to match the stock rwr lists for all the default aircraft and then dropping those into the appropriate folders. My way involves creating more copies of the RWR list (and naming them), but doesn't invlove extracting or editing any additional files. Just a different approach, not necessarily better. SupGen - If you have the .lst files handy, send them my way and I can update them. You've got the hardest part done already... Edited August 20, 2012 by malibu43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+dtmdragon 2,704 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) The idea behind having the all rwr.list files with the same name is when you need to add a new radar to the list you can copy and past the edited list into the main aircraft file of every aircraft with a rwr.list file. Yes you have to have extracted and edited a handful of stock avionics files to point to it. However I think you will find you will be updating the rwr.list fairly regularly so to edit every single diffrently named rwr.list file in your mods folder will be a lot of work to do on a regular basis, given how many add on aircraft most people have. For that reason I think we will be doing ourselves a big favour by standardising all our add on aircraft to use the generic "rwr.lst" file so we can update them easily on a regular basis when a new aircraft or ground object with a radar is uploaded. There is only a hand full of stock aircraft with a rwr.list so extracting their avionics files and changing the one line only takes 5 minutes. You just have to keep an eye out when a patch is released in case that particular avionics file was updated. But that doesn't happen nearly as often as the rwr.list file needs updating. Edited August 20, 2012 by dtmdragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted August 20, 2012 The idea behind having the all rwr.list files with the same name is when you need to add a new radar to the list you can copy and past the edited list into the main aircraft file of every aircraft with a rwr.list file. Yes you have to have extracted and edited a handful of stock avionics files to point to it. However I think you will find you will be updating the rwr.list fairly regularly so to edit every single diffrently named rwr.list file in your mods folder will be a lot of work to do on a regular basis, given how many add on aircraft most people have. For that reason I think we will be doing ourselves a big favour by standardising all our add on aircraft to use the generic "rwr.lst" file so we can update them easily on a regular basis when a new aircraft or ground object with a radar is uploaded. There is only a hand full of stock aircraft with a rwr.list so extracting their avionics files and changing the one line only takes 5 minutes. You just have to keep an eye out when a patch is released in case that particular avionics file was updated. But that doesn't happen nearly as often as the rwr.list file needs updating. I see. Makes sense. So, back to my original question - does anyone have the list of stock aircraft that need rwr.lst files? I don't mind putting all the edited files together... if someone can help me with that list. I don't have time to go digging through each .cat hoping to stumble across each rwr.lst file, or extract every avionic.ini file to check and see if it uses TEWS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+eburger68 201 Posted August 20, 2012 Guys: Seems to me that a universal RWR.LST would be a natural fit for the SF2 Realism Mod (which is also slated to have a universal SquadronList.INI among other things). Might I suggest that this discussion be migrated to that thread? http://combatace.com/topic/73796-sf2-realism-mod/ Eric Howes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+malibu43 142 Posted August 21, 2012 Guys: Seems to me that a universal RWR.LST would be a natural fit for the SF2 Realism Mod (which is also slated to have a universal SquadronList.INI among other things). Might I suggest that this discussion be migrated to that thread? http://combatace.com...f2-realism-mod/ Eric Howes Sure thing, Eric. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiopilotos 2,519 Posted October 3, 2013 I have noticed a strange behavior on SA-5 missile flight. Some seconds after launch, it starts to rotate. I haven't seen something like that in other SAMs, just this one. Any idea on how to solve it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stephenmcparlin 8 Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I'm having issues trying to get the installation to work. I've unpacked and edited the .INI files into /objects and /flight, as suggested, but the new SAM systems are not appearing as ground objects options in the menus.I'm specifically trying to build a scenario for UK Air Defence Region during the Cuban Missile Crisis. In addition to the early model Lightning interceptors, with some residual Hunter and Javelin units protecting the V-bomber bases, there were also Bloodhound SAM systems providing some coverage over the critical areas of the Bomber Command bases. I'd like to try and factor these into the set-up. So far, no luck.Thanks, Steve Found the problem: the red_objects, blue_objects directories were not located correctly in my setup. Now sorted... Edited July 31, 2014 by stephenmcparlin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
