Su-17/20 update

[+russouk2004 6,951]

this is all i could find Martin, and @Russo, can i use the metal texture, Sir?

By all means...it is a freeware texture

[+FLOGGER23 2,796]

Thanks Russ and thanks to Carlo now i have quite a few :)

[Wraith27 6]

Doest someone have some reference materials for soviet IR missile rails for the Fitter?!

 

Maybe this help : fitters A-A.rar

 

Regards!

[3-A-305 178]

Doest someone have some reference materials for soviet IR missile rails for the Fitter?!

As far as i've read...

 

SU-17 can not carry IR missiles.

Neither Su-17M.

But Su- 20 could carry two R-3S IR missiles (don't know which pylon, could be the outer or the inner wing pylons... my guess?? porbably the inner ones....)

 

Su-17M2 could carry two R-60 in the inner wing pylons (BD3-57M racks with APU-60-1 launch rail)

Same for the Su-22.

 

Source: Yefim Gordon "Sukhoi Su-7/-17/-20/-22" - Aerofax

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

reworked the intake, exhaust and pitot tubes, canopy detail, missing some small parts but its near to be finished...

 

 

next version:

 

early Su-17 production mode with slightly different canopy, tail and only 2 fences instead of 4

Edited February 6, 2013 by 76.IAP-Blackbird

[+russouk2004 6,951]

Looks better....round as its shud look...nice.I like the Sukhoi family...

IIRC they shared same pylons as the 9 and 11 ?

Edited February 6, 2013 by russouk2004

[+logan4 845]

These are mixed-up a bit.

On the top row, the right one is the S-24 rail, the left one seems a bit like APU-60 rail for R-60 single missile and the 2nd row left one seems like the R-13 rail.

 

The top left rail is the apuR-3R for radar atoll missiles, the apuR-3C similar but with the top front part angeled down is for the early IR atolls , you are right on the S-24 and the R-13. The single Apu60 is not on the picture.

Edited February 6, 2013 by logan4

[+Stary 2,426]

fellas, get the man beer and strippers, he deserves them!

 

now IF we had original Su-17 cockpit max file...

[+Soulfreak 6,351]

now IF we had original Su-17 cockpit max file...

Who did the original one? AD?

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

I think it was AD, do you have contact or the source?! Would make things alot easier

[+Soulfreak 6,351]

Was the source included as i handed over the SU-17 max file?

But i think if it was AD, he lost the source. But will ask him anyway...

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

Have checked it, sorry no only the plane was in the package, I have found the packed file you have send me, have to test something the next days, I would like to have a common standart on this plane

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

Ok as we speak I have tested the old date I have, there was an issue I couldnt solve, but now I have an idea I think we can expect those birds later, after the first series of Su-17`s

 

AD has done a great job, now its time for a SF2 versions with NA features

 

Su-17M4 and Su-22UM3K

Edited February 6, 2013 by 76.IAP-Blackbird

[+Soulfreak 6,351]

Well Martin, check still the tank positions on the 17! ;-)

BTW, for SU-22 skinning count on me!

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

Thanks for the hint, the positions aren`t final, the wings were moved abit and it wasnt changed in the ini files so far. I try to set all stuff symetrical. The newer 17 from m3 upwards will build on florians one. Hes has done some good work on some parts and would like to use his as a base for the further modification.

If you dont mind this will be the new "standart"

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

Enoc is doing a great job, the template and model is still WIP but it looks great together, sorry had to share it. I like the result

 

[+FLOGGER23 2,796]

Mamamia!!! is that my plane??? i see it sooo ugly with the Photoshop, hahahahahahahahhahahahaha

[Spinners 15,968]

Great team work guys!

[Centurion-1 1,228]

Nice one! 2013: Year of Soviet Aviation

[+Stary 2,426]

ouch what a fugly plane!

 

j/k

 

I'll start woring on the cockpit tomorrow, gimme some time

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

All time you need, some shapes are still not right have to crosscheck some areas wih my drawings.

Stary you will recieve an update soon to play around.

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

The inner wings will be reshaped, main gear area reworked. landung lights repositioned an reanimated to match the real positions. And the wing angle will be rearranged.

Im satisfied with the res of the plane so far, after this work I will add antennas to represent the earlie Su-17 for soviet scenarios.

[+FLOGGER23 2,796]

At the endo of the day i hope i could send you something, it´s 5:34 here and i just began working.

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,545]

Sounds great I m at work right now. Can work on it later the week. But im awaiting your stuff :)

[+FLOGGER23 2,796]

I just began to work, gotta fix the panel lines in the undersides, i will show you my progress later in the day.